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Eternalmisfit
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States643 Posts
April 12 2011 14:50 GMT
#52
/in

I am new to Mafia and this will be my first game. I hope I don't too bad in this one ^_^

Eternalmisfit
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States643 Posts
April 12 2011 15:10 GMT
#55
Thanks for the links!!
Eternalmisfit
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States643 Posts
April 14 2011 23:01 GMT
#90
Waiting for the game to start now. After reading a couple of old mafia threads, I am quite pumped up for this.
Eternalmisfit
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States643 Posts
April 15 2011 02:08 GMT
#97
GL HF all!!

Now that the pleasantries are out of the way, we need to find out who the scum are and show them their place.
Eternalmisfit
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States643 Posts
April 15 2011 02:12 GMT
#98
Btw I think we should lynch people who are inactive or lurking the boards as it is more likely that they are trying to stay under and radar and avoid suspicion on themselves by barely posting at all.
Eternalmisfit
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States643 Posts
April 15 2011 02:25 GMT
#103
I agree that we are all new but if we have people only posting the minimum count and not partaking in discussion, it becomes harder to analyze who the mafia are. If we can make Mafia post more, it is likely that they will slip up and drop hints.

In any case, it will be a tough call for the first day lynch
Eternalmisfit
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States643 Posts
April 15 2011 03:56 GMT
#112
We will have to see. So far three folks are missing in action. But, I guess the day just started at near sleep time on EST side. Hopefully the thread will be active tomorrow and we can start figuring out folks.
Eternalmisfit
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States643 Posts
April 15 2011 11:06 GMT
#122
On April 15 2011 13:08 sandroba wrote:
Well I just checked and it's actually 6 AM in sweeden/netherlands so Vain and Forumite are probably actually sleeping. However, judging from this thread varpulis is normally active around this time. Hmmm...


Varpulis posted at the start of his thread that he wont be here on Thursday/Friday so we wont see him post till near the late end of the day. Since that was posted way before the roles went out, it is unlikely that it a strategy for hiding as scum.

Also, I think the way Zorkmind is subtly derailing the discussion by talking about less fun in this mafia thread makes me wonder if has a hidden motive.
Eternalmisfit
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States643 Posts
April 15 2011 13:57 GMT
#131
On April 15 2011 20:52 sandroba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2011 11:27 Zorkmid wrote:
On April 15 2011 11:12 Eternalmisfit wrote:
Btw I think we should lynch people who are inactive or lurking the boards as it is more likely that they are trying to stay under and radar and avoid suspicion on themselves by barely posting at all.

I concur with this, there sure isn't any harm in losing inactive townies OR scum!

GLHF!

There is a lot of harm in losing any kind of townies.


The idea of lynching an inactive on day1 is:

1. He is mafia - good lynch then.
2. He is town - In that it is better to lynch an inactive townie than risking lynching an active townie or a blue on the first day.


Eternalmisfit
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States643 Posts
April 15 2011 22:28 GMT
#168
On April 16 2011 07:10 VarpuliS wrote:

I just looked though the thread, and pretty much 100% of Eternalmisfit's posts have been pushing for an inactive lynch day 1. He'd like to get everybody talking, but has yet to contribute in a meaningful way. If we're gonna lynch a lurker, it should either be him or Senj, who has been lurking since the beginning of the game, save a few posts about inactives.


I pushed for inactive lynch as I don't see in-actives contributing to discussion in any form or sense. As far as meaningful discussion is concerned, there has been very little analysis by anyone on this thread apart from arbitrary finger pointing.

As far as my suspicions are concerned, I am quite suspicious of Shcoleosis being scum.
+ Show Spoiler +

Most of the people in the town are in 2 camps: lynching lurkers or not lynching lurkers. And for the most, the people have strong opinions on the matter. Shcoleosis initially was quite against the idea at the start of the discussion. However, as my suggestion gained some support (as most of the people opposed to it posted later), she quickly jumped sides and was semi-pro for lynching inactives.
I think she is changing her opinion and trying a bit too hard to fit in which seems like scummy behavior. She has also been inactive since those posts.


FoS Shcoleosis
Eternalmisfit
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States643 Posts
April 15 2011 23:12 GMT
#172
I think I agree with most of your analysis Varpulis. My line of thought was something similar when I raised my suspicions. I am still going to give her a few hours more to post her defense but I am leaning toward Shcolesis at the moment.
Eternalmisfit
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States643 Posts
April 16 2011 01:59 GMT
#188
Just read the recent set of posts and Shcoleosis arguments. Although does she raise at least one point in her defense (i.e. she did not try to agree with what I was saying right away). Nevertheless, I am still a little suspicious of her trying to blend in (and then accusing Zorkmid of being mafia for the same reason).

Apart from her, I do also have some suspicions on Zorkmid who seems to be too finger happy at pointing at others. But, it is hard to say whether this is his usual forum personality or whether he trying to parry away any attention. Sadly, since it is mostly new people here, it is hard to get a read on someone on the basis of posting habits.

Btw, just so that people don't fly under the radar, senj and elmizzit haven't posted anything of substance yet in this thread.

I am going to head to bed now and will read any new arguments made tonight before posting my initial vote tomorrow am.



Eternalmisfit
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States643 Posts
April 16 2011 02:02 GMT
#190
Well elmizzit did post one of his analysis of sandroba earlier today. However, Senj has been MIA for a while now.
Eternalmisfit
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States643 Posts
April 16 2011 12:36 GMT
#198
My analysis on different people at this point.

Senj
He has added nothing to discussion at this point and seems like a classic example of lurker. If I cannot find any strong candidates for being mafia by the end of the day, he will be my go-to vote to avoid killing an active townie.

Elmizzit
He has been barely more active than Senj. So, he has been lurking a bit too. Same analysis as Senj.

VarpuliS
He has been making reasonable posts and has been making good analysis so he seems like a townie to me.

Shcoleosis
I was suspicious of her due to low activity and trying to fit in. But, she seems to be more active now. I am still now confident that she is town but I don't get any strong vibes of her being mafia as well now.

Forumite
One thing I am confident is that if Forumite is mafia, Shcoleosis is mafia as well since he was only one who jumped to her defense. If Forumite was mafia and Scholeosis was not mafia, than it is unlikely that he will protect a townie as it seems a easy town lynch in that case. This clue doesn't have a bearing now but if it late game, if either of them do turn out to be mafia, then I would be very suspicious of the other.
Nevertheless, I cant find much scummy behavior from Forumite at this point.

Zorkmid
Zorkmid is suspicious of Shcoleosis to the point where he will lynch her before lurkers. It seems like an opposite relation of Forumite i.e. if one of the is mafia, then the other one is town. Some more thoughts in next post.

Sandroba
Not getting a strong scum/townie vibe from him. So he can be either.

Vain
He has posted multiple times throughout the thread. So, he is not as inactive as Senj/Elm, but he has not posted much of substance either. This seems a little suspicious again.
Eternalmisfit
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States643 Posts
April 16 2011 12:53 GMT
#199
On April 16 2011 10:03 Zorkmid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2011 09:51 Shcoleosis wrote:
After reading this thread entirely, here's what I think on the matter:

In my opinion, one of the first to accuse is usually the guilty one. Automatically everyone’s opinions are immediately placed under suspicion as the game progresses. That being the case, a mafia member wouldn’t express his opinions as eagerly as he would if he were agreeing with someone else’s. He would, however, be quick to blame, because doing so would divert attention away from himself.

On April 15 2011 20:53 Zorkmid wrote:
My FoS is on Shcoleosis as well for the same reasons, and will also be on anyone that jumps on Misfit's argument about this Zorkmind person.


On April 15 2011 20:06 Eternalmisfit wrote:
Also, I think the way Zorkmind is subtly derailing the discussion by talking about less fun in this mafia thread makes me wonder if has a hidden motive.


Zorkmid came up with the idea of lynching inactives and lurkers. That would work out greatly to his advantage if he were part of the mafia since it is more of an opportunity to blend, right? The more we accuse those of having a different opinion, the less of a suspect he seems to be. I am not the first to disagree with him. I am not the first to be accused because I disagreed with him. Notice how Zorkmid says he “will also be on anyone that jumps on Misfit’s argument about his Zorkmind person.” Why so defensive, Zorkmid? Perhaps he is afraid of everyone discovering how he is desperately trying to divert attention away from himself. He’s doing a great job of it. I had my suspicions about him early on because he's not only quick to agree with the majority, but he is also quick to blame. I didn't quote any other of his posts, but to me, he acts quite suspicious in most of them.


I've just learned that you should always beware of the person that is the first to agree with a scum read. If I were a mafia I'd be looking for the first opportunity to form a bandwagon against a known townie.

Misfit was the first to point the finger at me, and I wanted everyone to wait and watch for the second

Question for you Scheleosis......what's your plan to survive tomorrow? I'd say your only bet is to claim blue.

##Vote Scheleosis



The bolded part makes me highly suspicious that Zorkmid is scum. There are multiple people who think that it is likely that Shcoleosis is scum. But none of them are strongly confident about it as there is no concrete evidence of her being mafia apart from a few scum looking posts. However, Zorkmid is so confident that Shcoleosis is mafia that he is taunting her with that statement.

This seems quite scummy to be me as if Zork was mafia, he would know Shcoleosis is mafia or not and thus can make strong statements like this. This by itself can even suggest that Zorkmid is just an aggressive poster so is not sufficient by itself to give a strong mafia read.

The second part of his statement is what gives a strong mafia read. He has been posting multiple times that he is reading guides/following other mafia threads. However, I doubt that claiming blue is suggested as a good idea anywhere on Day 1. It almost seems like Zork is trying to fish out whether Shcoleosis is blue or not which seems scum-like to me.

I am going to tentatively post for Zorkmid until I hear his point of view.

b]##Vote Zorkmid[/b]
Eternalmisfit
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States643 Posts
April 16 2011 12:53 GMT
#200
EBWOP
##Vote Zorkmid
Eternalmisfit
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States643 Posts
April 16 2011 13:31 GMT
#203
I think it is:

Scholeosis : 2 (Zorkmid, Vain)
Zorkmid : 2 (Eternalmisfit, Forumite)
Senj : 1 (Sandroba)

Varpulis, elmizzit, scholeosis and Senj have still to cast vote. (Varpulis voted and then unvoted Shcoleosis)

Mod: If someone doesn't vote, do they get modkilled?
Eternalmisfit
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States643 Posts
April 16 2011 15:27 GMT
#207
On April 17 2011 00:17 VarpuliS wrote:
Alright, I'm awake now. I guess I should vote, to avoid the modkill. IMO, both Scholeosis and Zorkmid might be scum, but both have been fairly active, so I'd much rather lynch a lurker.

##Vote: Elmizzt


I guess I can follow your logic here. Though I still suspicious of Zorkmid, I would rather vote a lurker than risk of voting off a active townie by chance.

##Unvote
##Vote: Elmizzit
Eternalmisfit
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States643 Posts
April 16 2011 16:06 GMT
#212
Varpulis: I plan to be active all day and will change my vote later according to the situation. I am just keeping one vote on elmizzit so that he doesn't think it is safe to not post.

Also, I would prefer that someone who is being modkilled anyone be lycnhed. Since the first day is a crapshoot for the most, it is better to lynch someone being modkilled anyways.
Eternalmisfit
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States643 Posts
April 16 2011 23:05 GMT
#222
No show for Senj yet. And Elmizzt did make few posts. So, I guess I will follow Varpulis' advice and vote for Senj as well.

I find it ironic that in one of his initial post, he said that he will be very suspicious is someone didn't post a during the course of the day.

## Unvote
## Vote : Senj
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