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Hello teamliquid!
So, let me go straight to the point. I have been, and I am struggling against Terrans. I just don't know what to do against them, they can so easily counter every my unit, but I can't counter theirs. If they go mass marine and I go mass bane, I lose. I usually have 2-3 bases vs their 1-2 when I lose, and even tho I make the usual ling/bling, they just counter it with EZ. I usually get tons of resources stacked up, or then I am hanging on the edge, because I can't get enough minerals.
I know that ZvT should be fairly well balanced, I, just don't agree. I don't say T is imba or anything (you can see me saying that in replays many times  ), it's just that I can't beat them, nothing seems to work! I have like 99% loss-ratio against those a- oh wait not going to say that.
So yeah what should I do better, how could I win these games?
Warning! There is A LOT of bm inside the replays.
TvZ on Delta Quadrant.
TvZ Shakuras Plateau
TvZ Shattered Temple
TvZ Scrap Station
More replays coming soon
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Russian Federation325 Posts
Game at delta quadrant:
Your attack around 9:30 was awful. You need to attack with all units simultaneously, not to donate zerglings, then donate banelings, then retreat with roaches. Collect all units barely out of range of siege tanks, spread them a little bit, and attack. With proper positioning you would win the game right there.
Around 11:30 same problem. While zerglings and banelings were fighting, roaches were chilling behind.
What about roach speed, baneling speed?
If you want to play without muta, get +1 armor for zerglings. Usually terran get +1 vehicle weapons very late, and +0 tanks do not one-shot +1 armor zerglings.
Around 19:00 you would blow up him with baneling speed and roaches not chilling behind.
Put spines to deal with hellion harras.
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Laegoose, thanks! Your advice helped, at least somewhat, because after reading your post I went on and plaid a game vs Terran, I won! Ah, that does feel so good, it was the first time in ages! Heres the link to it: ZvT Delta Quadrant, victory, finally!
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First thing i notice is that you grab your hatchery around 16 supply and you grab your spawn pool first. This really sets you back. 14 hatch 14 pool seems to be the norm, and right as it finishes send 4 drones down to fend off the bunker rush and build a spine crawler just as it finishes, with this timing they both come out at the same time. With your first set of zerglings scout their ramp and leave one at their entrance. You never knew when terran was moving out which caused you to scramble when he was already at your front door. Your second gas was very late in the first game, and it hurt your muta count. When you finally get your spire out spend 100 gas to get the +1 attack it can help substantially. Also you expanded at the 9 minute mark which was good, but then you sent all your drones to this base leaving your base unsaturated, you want to send maybe 4 from each base and then build a few more to saturate it, and grab those gas early. Once you grab your third build a second evo chamber and start cranking out upgrades. Also work on your creep spread.
Zerg is the only race that is 100% required to have map vision because you want to be able to make your army at the last second once you see what's coming. Any questions feel free to PM me
AuPoiVre.459
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Watched the game on Shattered, and I have to say your BM is really bad. That notwithstanding, your most glaring problem is scouting. You never, ever scout his base after your initial drone. If you don't know what he is doing you will die.
Also - you drop spores at main/expo way too early. He does get a banshee eventually but his first attack with helions is crippling because you have no spines, but you do have spores. Drop like 1-2 spines at nat and block ramp if you go drone heavy and no roaches early.
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I only looked at your game on Shattered temple. You got close position, which is very hard to begin with.
Some things:
1. No creep spread
2. You scouted very early (which also gave your position away). You could do some harass, but this didnt really affect his play. I would go for a later scout (15th drone or so) and FE if possible. Else just pool first as you did.
3. After the drone scout, you had almost no scouting information. You sacreficed a drone at the ramp but didnt replace it. When his helion push came you never saw it comming. Put on OV at the back of his base, so he can fly in to do some scouting later on in the game. Put on OV near his expansion. Keep a zergling in front of his base (like you did once). When you see that he scouts you, expect an attack.
4. You made an evo chamber and 4 spore crawlers blindly. Even though he eventually did make banshees, you never scouted this. Also, even for 1 port banshee this reaction is a little too much in my opinion. Make 1-2 additional queens and 1 spore is much better (better creep spread, healing).
5. I would advise to make 1 spine crawler at your expansion. This, together with a scout of his push and making some troops (in your case you could only make speedling, but they would have done the trick) you would have defended against his helions without losing most your drones. The game was basically lost for you at this point (and you never used the evo chamber or spore crawlers).
6. You canceled an overlord at 2:51 that you did need at that point.
7. At 4:30 you were already floating 500+ minerals.
And what I consider the main reason why you lose: your gaming attitude. You started BM-ing at the start of the game already. This puts you in a terrible mental position. You blame the game instead of yourself. Instead of playing your best game you spend time typing BM (which doesnt really help). Look at your replays, look at pro-streams (Idra, Ret, etc.) and see they do better than you.
Dont think that you play almost as good as them, because trust me the difference is huge.
There is more, but I think this will do for now.
Good luck! (and quit the BM)
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1) saturation= 30 drones
2) if you have more than 30 drones and an expansion, but the terran hasnt expanded, then you are ahead economically (or at least not behind).
3)If you are already ahead economically, make units only, as the only chance the terran has to win is to kill you in the short-mid term with an attack. If he doesnt attack you will win because of your superior economy.
4) Trickle in one or two drones now and again to further secure your economic lead, but without weakening too much your army growth.
5)keep an overlord or zergling at each possible expansion site to make sure he doesnt sneak a command center.
6) If he doesnt push or expand, make overseers+queens and put overlords on all possible flight paths towards your bases, as he is probably gonna do banshee, drops or nukes to get back into the game.
7)Dont be bad mannered, if the guy says gl hf, you answer gl hf !!
8) Watch Day(9)
i´m zerg and i understand that its a hard race but that makes it all the sweeter to get better with it.
By the way, if you want to BM, do it at the end of the game so that it doesnt take away from you concentration and time while playing, look at Idra, he waits till he knows hes already lost!
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Seriously, if you want to BM at least do it cleverly. The way you do it makes you look like a childish prick. Be polite and accept your loss rationally.
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My god, the BM in the games is unbelievable. Drop it and accept the races as how they are. At the level you are playing you have no right to whine about racial imbalances. You can still beat the by being better. All this talk only gives me more the feeling you just hate terran and dont give anything about improving yourself, and even less motivation to help such a raging person that cannot clearly bring it to himself to see his own mistakes. Just watch the replays yourself again whole from your perspective and i will bet you'll see more then enough reason why you lost, and it wont be caus terran is op.
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Q: What do you think wrong?
A: I'm playing against an imba race.
Believe it or not, this isn't good analysis. Come back when you're ready to analyze your game maturely instead of having everyone point out your obvious mistakes because you believe something's fundamentally wrong with the game.
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