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Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
April 08 2011 17:04 GMT
#10
interesting

/in
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
April 12 2011 21:41 GMT
#29
why not just start this when it's full?
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
April 25 2011 01:35 GMT
#113
On April 25 2011 09:54 darmousseh wrote:
/confirm. Got my pm

Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
April 25 2011 02:40 GMT
#120
Analysis in this setup is still the same as a normal setup. The main difference here is that associating people by alignment in the beginning is much harder.

Scum still know they are Scum and that almost everyone else is Town. That shouldn't drastically altar their behavior.

Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
April 25 2011 03:10 GMT
#126
On April 25 2011 11:55 Impervious wrote:


Also, I'd be looking for any unusual word choices/phrases that a player could use to help identify themselves to/complete a clue they left the sleeper agents. Unfortunately, we probably won't know what the clues will really mean, but it could lead us to the cell leader, or a red faking as the cell leader to take pressure off the leader.



Great idea. With only 1 player knowing all of the identities it would take them a long time to individually reveal all the information to each Agent. So there may be codewords or themes to try and hint to Agents what alignment they are.

So if we ever see out of ordinary phrases and words between multiple players then we have a link.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
April 25 2011 03:23 GMT
#128
You do know posting a public breadcrumb defeats the purpose of proving you breadcrumbed later right?
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
April 25 2011 05:32 GMT
#133
On April 25 2011 12:29 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Of course scum-hunting is going to be the best way to find scum, but breadcrumbs are also a good way of finding out the cell leader. It looks like he can only send one PM to one of his people per morning/evening, which means that he's going to have to find a way to get information out to them otherwise, or else he'll have no way to contact more than a couple of them. We can't really rely on the connections between players in this game, so if someone starts acting weird after PM time, maybe they're scum. Also, when we kill the GF, we can go back and look at who he was trying to direct, and who he was paying special attention to, and how.


eh how? The point of bread crumbs is to prove something before it happens via hidden clues. So how in the world is that going to help us find the Cell Leader?
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
April 25 2011 06:26 GMT
#137
I guess being defensive with no pressure should be looked at suspiciously. However, I don't think his post about vigilantes was a "blue tell". If you believe that he just dropped a blue tell then you're prior statement about him making you suspicious makes no sense.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
April 25 2011 13:30 GMT
#155
On April 25 2011 21:57 Vain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2011 21:46 Jackal58 wrote:
On April 25 2011 21:41 sandroba wrote:
I think this discussion about breadcrumbs is not productive at all, specially if you reveal your strategy before you put it in practice. Doing what you are suggesting is going to make scumhunting more difficult imo. Also I don't think that's the way mafia is going to identify each other, as there are several other more obvious ways I can think of.

Please share.


Well for instance the cell leader could hint them who is who. It is stated in the first post that the cell leader is allowed to breadcrumb. He can also send that pm at dusk and down so in theory he could give some direction to who to vote for to lynch at dawn and also who to hit at dusk.


Which would still take a lot of time. As far as I see there is no way for the CL to mass communicate to all the Scum in the game without us picking up on it.

Either way I've got a different question for everyone:

Look at the player list. Let's pretend you were the Cell Leader for a second. What 3 players on the list would you send a message to and what would it be? (assume everyone is Scum for a second so you can just pick anyone)
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
April 25 2011 13:43 GMT
#160
On April 25 2011 22:38 Impervious wrote:
Guys, this talk about breadcrumbing is nice and all, but I don't see it going much further at the moment. We should probably wait a while before bringing this up, so we can catch a slip up. Especially if they are trying to hide their posting in the thread.

I think we should talk about the pros and cons of of double-checking anyone who gets the result of "insufficient analysis", to make it easier on the DT.

The pros of double checking are that you are more sure of the result. The cons are that you could be checking someone else instead, therefore checking more people. I really think the cons outweigh the pros in this case.

Thoughts?


Even if you double checked someone and got "Incomplete Analysis" it's a waste of time. If you get it once and you checked the person because you assumed they were scum it's better to come out with it and play the odds that they are CL and not that you hit the 25% chance you rolled the wrong result.

Also there may be other roles not listed in the OP that have this same effect. Whether they are good or bad you won't know so you could end up wasting another day of your check to get you no further than your first check. Just roll with the odds on this one.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
April 25 2011 13:54 GMT
#166
On April 25 2011 22:46 sandroba wrote:
Ace, I trust your analysis and think you are a smart player, but I don't like the idea of feeding ideas to the cell leader. I don't see how this can be helpful for town as I can think of other methods of comunicating with the sleeper agents that do not involve using the posts in this thread.


Well you can keep those methods to yourself since you don't seem intent on sharing. What I'm doing here is something else. Guess you'll just have to read into it a bit more.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
April 25 2011 14:04 GMT
#170
I forgot my 3:

1.) Eiii

If I recall I played in a Mafia game with him a long time ago. I think he's the only one here that was around more than 2 years ago? If so I could send him a message and it would be clearly obvious it was from me.

2.) Jackal58

I think I've also played a game with him before and he didn't suck.

3.) GMarshal/darmousseh/GGQ

I've modded games with all 3 of them participating. All 3 of them played decently in the last game I ran so they'd be prime choices.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
April 25 2011 14:09 GMT
#171
sandroba post your messages too. I'd like to know your relations to whoever you picked.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
April 25 2011 14:14 GMT
#174
huh? I dont understand that.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
April 25 2011 15:18 GMT
#182
On April 26 2011 00:10 tnkted wrote:
it wouldn't matter who I sent my 3 to, I'd just have to write: "Twinkle Twinkle Little Scum 3rd" and they'd know who I am.

Technically, theres no reason that scum needs to know who their buddies are if they know who the CL is. The CL can use them like a conductor, posting a scumlist or an analysis that triggers the agents to pick a certain person, perhaps the person third in the list or something (ie the 3rd from above). So I'll be watching scumlists to see if anybody dies from that.

IMO, the cell leader is going to be posting with the best of us this game. He's got to blend in more than anyone, and since he's godfather he's immune to checks. I'm guessing that the first time the DTs 'insufficently' checks a vig and the vig is lynched, we're going to be a lot less likely to lynch on results from DTs.


I have no idea what "Twinkle Twinkle Little Scum 3rd" even refers to. Either way can you just answer the question? It does matter.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
April 25 2011 15:43 GMT
#187
Good job Rean, contribute more please. You're path to the lynch wagon won't take long with shit posts like that.

Post your lists or at least give some damn good reasons why this is useless.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
April 25 2011 15:51 GMT
#189
That will become clear soon, I'm just waiting for more lists.

Rean, why, Kenpachi, Zorkmid, Vain, darmousseh, and GGQ still have to post their lists.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
April 25 2011 16:23 GMT
#194
Read what you just posted and slap yourself for asking a silly question. You just answered your own question.

But ok sir critic, what should we do instead?
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
April 25 2011 18:45 GMT
#207
If sandroba is the Cell Leader though then he also doesn't have to tell anyone either

Discussion has centered on the setup but a few of us are trying to push some agendas here. There is much more going on here than you think. Once everyone finishes posting their lists I'll explain why I asked for them.

Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
April 25 2011 20:42 GMT
#215
On April 26 2011 05:27 why wrote:

At this point sandroba has already laid out why he wouldn't want to say anything. You FoS him for it. This is anti-town, since you are FoSing someone for hiding something that only a scum would want/need to know about. You are the one prolonging discussion about something that shouldn't require further discussion.



That's not anti-town. Whether or not sandroba is correct in sharing his information and whether anyone believes what he is hiding is beneficial to the town, Jackal laying a FoS on him for that isn't anti-town.

anti-town is doing something that hampers the goal of killing scum. This isn't such an incident and it is a relevant discussion.

Add it up to your suspicion points and keep letting him dig a hole for himself if you think he's so anti-town.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
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