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LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
February 10 2011 06:44 GMT
#6
With so many people already in other games, you might want to recruit new people.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
February 10 2011 06:49 GMT
#8
COAG MAN. How many games you are currently in?
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
February 13 2011 21:50 GMT
#36
LOL role reverser.

Medic claims.
Mafia role reverse medic.
Medic, time to use your nightkill.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
February 17 2011 08:22 GMT
#87
On February 17 2011 17:05 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
actually fuck. this icon is ugly. I want to be something cooler.

Welcome abroad.

Advice: Spam more and we'll overcome this.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
February 17 2011 19:19 GMT
#99
This is the legit warning. You get it if your posts suck. I hide in the mafia forum since then.

This is a Warning!

Greetings! You've received this message because we here at Teamliquid have noticed a disturbing lack of personality in your posts. Most members here try to promote discussion by typing thoughtful, meaningful and interesting posts. Others post crude, primitive one-line responses that add nothing but more text to read. Right now, we've got you pegged as an "other". Generally, this means one of two things: 1) You haven't been putting enough effort into your posts, or 2) You're a zombie, caveman or one of those trained apes like in "Congo". Any of those things would be great if this were a buddy cop movie or a movie where you have to babysit a bunch of spoiled rich kids who learn to love you, but it isn't. It's a forum, where all we have to know you by is what you type. So here's to hoping you're part of the first group, and that in the future you put more effort into each post. We'd hate to have to ban you because we thought you were a zombie.

Thanks in advance for your cooperation,
The Mod Staff
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-18 04:16:54
February 18 2011 04:14 GMT
#102
On February 18 2011 13:08 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
Was that a custom wrote PM? It doesn't seem automatic :O

Try spaming in other forum. You might be able to counter my claim...

Nah, I really got that pm. I doubt it's unique.

EDIT: pm was sent by TL.net Bot
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
February 18 2011 04:35 GMT
#104
Going through my old pms:

From: RebirthOfLeGenD [ 3010 posts | Profile | Buddy | Report ]
Subject: I WILL NOT ALLOW IT.
Date: 5/1/10 01:08
You have bumped me from 8 to 9 on liquibet by post count. I will spam my way back into that spot

muahahhahahahahahah.

Never thought you were this guy, looks like my post count far surpassed yours.

Coag, want to share some of your warning pms?
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
February 18 2011 18:21 GMT
#116
On February 19 2011 03:08 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
A simple search of monkeyspanker or mslegend reveal some hilarious results... http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=79579

This supports why his irc logs are full of swears.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-18 22:25:35
February 18 2011 22:22 GMT
#122
On February 19 2011 06:46 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
Okay this game is going in the wrong direction.

Damn it.

I took out both myself and chaoser...

Was that is bad move? I THOUGHT it WAS a good move...

I also wouldn't be active until Tuesday. So if you still missing people by Monday, I will join. If game started by Monday, I'll act as replacement.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
February 19 2011 07:13 GMT
#130
On February 19 2011 16:09 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
LD do you want to play if the game starts after monday? It probably will and I have no problem holding off the game until then.

I can actually play now but my posting will be limited. You don't have to hold the game for me.

Time to think about it, you can start the game even before Monday. I'll just poke around here and there as most day1s are uneventful. So...

/in
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
February 21 2011 03:02 GMT
#172
Bumping this because Coag just finished the other game.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
February 21 2011 23:39 GMT
#213
I know some people's countries limit their monthly bandwidth to like 30 GBs/month...
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
February 23 2011 04:25 GMT
#332
On February 23 2011 13:19 GMarshal wrote:
for arguments sake going to create analysis cells, use them for informational analysis
(even assuming I were scum there is no way) I could ensure each has a mafia member in it as there isn't enough mafia to go around (I am trying to put at least 1 TL vet in each) as the game progresses and people die we can have new cells form. (also you are free to create your own parallel cells)

1. Coagulation, LSB, gryffindor
2 GMarshal, seRapH, OriginalName
3 Mr. Wiggles, ICanFlyLow, kevconsim
4 Barundar, LastArgument , why
5 darmousseh, Ser Aspi, Kenpachi
6 Gofarman, chaoser, ohN
7 astroorion, CubEdIn, Jackal58
8 Beneather, annul, Conversion
9 icemac, Foolishness, LunarDestiny
10 deconduo, kitaman27, JBright

This is just a suggestion, but I think it is a good one, discuss

i don't like this. Lets say that 4 groups are contaminated with mafia. Then mafia will know 40% of the info, that is a lot of info and influence for them to work with.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
February 23 2011 04:31 GMT
#338
On February 23 2011 13:28 GMarshal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2011 13:25 LunarDestiny wrote:
On February 23 2011 13:19 GMarshal wrote:
for arguments sake going to create analysis cells, use them for informational analysis
(even assuming I were scum there is no way) I could ensure each has a mafia member in it as there isn't enough mafia to go around (I am trying to put at least 1 TL vet in each) as the game progresses and people die we can have new cells form. (also you are free to create your own parallel cells)

1. Coagulation, LSB, gryffindor
2 GMarshal, seRapH, OriginalName
3 Mr. Wiggles, ICanFlyLow, kevconsim
4 Barundar, LastArgument , why
5 darmousseh, Ser Aspi, Kenpachi
6 Gofarman, chaoser, ohN
7 astroorion, CubEdIn, Jackal58
8 Beneather, annul, Conversion
9 icemac, Foolishness, LunarDestiny
10 deconduo, kitaman27, JBright

This is just a suggestion, but I think it is a good one, discuss

i don't like this. Lets say that 4 groups are contaminated with mafia. Then mafia will know 40% of the info, that is a lot of info and influence for them to work with.


The brilliance is that no "secret" information is going to be shared, its only for bouncing off ideas and analysis, this encourages more active posting as you feel obliged by more active players asking you questions and bouncing ideas off you. This leads to people posting more and more stuff to analyze

At least that is my reasoning

I just don't like mandatory group joining but I do get forming in circles helps if your read on your pm partner as town.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
February 23 2011 06:38 GMT
#372
Voting inactives are bad, but there are people who will only reply if their names pop up. I understand the game just started, but I think pressure voting to get someone start talking is good.

What's bad is that if the person don't respond and bandwagon on that person happens.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
February 23 2011 07:23 GMT
#403
I have a few problem with that list.

First is your classification of "people to keep alive:". Are you saying that they are likely to be town or people that medic should be protecting?

Second, I understand why you put foolishness and yourself up there, but I don't see why you put coag, ser aspi, and kenpachi is up there as they didn't say much.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
February 23 2011 07:52 GMT
#409
@gryffindor
Ser Aspi attempted to make a well formulated case after putting an FoS out on me. I'm not mafia, so if he was mafia, I would expect him to have done that differently. It could be WIFOM off of an associative tell, but I'm not sure if he's good enough to do that. Given that I doubt he wasn't genuine, and I like that he is attempting to create a bandwagon, I'm comfortable with him in my town category. I didn't want to just put "town", as it can be misleading. People will be moving up and down on my list as their play improves/degrades.


You are saying that Ser Aspi read you as mafia and tried to convince town and not sucessful in doing do. While I agree that mafia won't recklessly risk themselves at leading lynches, I believe that they want to form a quick bandwagon on town.

But you also said Ser Aspi tried to create a bandwagon which is what mafia wants to do. That should be a scum tell instead of a defense why he is town.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
February 23 2011 09:01 GMT
#427
On February 23 2011 17:06 gryffindor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2011 16:52 LunarDestiny wrote:
@gryffindor
Ser Aspi attempted to make a well formulated case after putting an FoS out on me. I'm not mafia, so if he was mafia, I would expect him to have done that differently. It could be WIFOM off of an associative tell, but I'm not sure if he's good enough to do that. Given that I doubt he wasn't genuine, and I like that he is attempting to create a bandwagon, I'm comfortable with him in my town category. I didn't want to just put "town", as it can be misleading. People will be moving up and down on my list as their play improves/degrades.


You are saying that Ser Aspi read you as mafia and tried to convince town and not sucessful in doing do. While I agree that mafia won't recklessly risk themselves at leading lynches, I believe that they want to form a quick bandwagon on town.

But you also said Ser Aspi tried to create a bandwagon which is what mafia wants to do. That should be a scum tell instead of a defense why he is town.

No, he made a well formulated case (on someone else, the person he is voting...),"after putting an F.o.S. on me" should then read as "after making a post addressing inconsistencies he had with me"
This isn't what happened, either, so not only are you not brushed up on the topic in the voting thread, apparently you don't read the one with words in it either. You have moved down my list, to somewhere in between neutral and leaning.

Shape it up or ship it out.

Ser Aspi attempted to make a well formulated case after putting an FoS out on me.
This is exactly what you said. Then you say that it isn't what happened exactly.

So you put in misinformation on purpose to catch people off guard. Also you can get away with it because afterward you say that it is done on purpose.

If your kind of play is classify as a pro town move, then mafia can use this excuse to slip away after getting caught. Your posts got a lot of lies in them if you keep this up. I know there are pro town lies but consistent lying will just degrade the value of your posts.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
February 23 2011 10:49 GMT
#434
On February 23 2011 19:14 gryffindor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2011 18:01 LunarDestiny wrote:
On February 23 2011 17:06 gryffindor wrote:
On February 23 2011 16:52 LunarDestiny wrote:
@gryffindor
Ser Aspi attempted to make a well formulated case after putting an FoS out on me. I'm not mafia, so if he was mafia, I would expect him to have done that differently. It could be WIFOM off of an associative tell, but I'm not sure if he's good enough to do that. Given that I doubt he wasn't genuine, and I like that he is attempting to create a bandwagon, I'm comfortable with him in my town category. I didn't want to just put "town", as it can be misleading. People will be moving up and down on my list as their play improves/degrades.


You are saying that Ser Aspi read you as mafia and tried to convince town and not sucessful in doing do. While I agree that mafia won't recklessly risk themselves at leading lynches, I believe that they want to form a quick bandwagon on town.

But you also said Ser Aspi tried to create a bandwagon which is what mafia wants to do. That should be a scum tell instead of a defense why he is town.

No, he made a well formulated case (on someone else, the person he is voting...),"after putting an F.o.S. on me" should then read as "after making a post addressing inconsistencies he had with me"
This isn't what happened, either, so not only are you not brushed up on the topic in the voting thread, apparently you don't read the one with words in it either. You have moved down my list, to somewhere in between neutral and leaning.

Shape it up or ship it out.

Ser Aspi attempted to make a well formulated case after putting an FoS out on me.
This is exactly what you said. Then you say that it isn't what happened exactly.

So you put in misinformation on purpose to catch people off guard. Also you can get away with it because afterward you say that it is done on purpose.

If your kind of play is classify as a pro town move, then mafia can use this excuse to slip away after getting caught. Your posts got a lot of lies in them if you keep this up. I know there are pro town lies but consistent lying will just degrade the value of your posts.

You just typed 3 paragraphs about how I didn't correctly use a comma, and you are still misrepresenting what I said; learn how to read.

My post was about you posting misinformation and using the excuse of catching people off guard.
I'll analyze line by line:

No, he made a well formulated case (on someone else, the person he is voting...),"after putting an
F.o.S. on me" should then read as "after making a post addressing inconsistencies he had with me"


This says
"Ser Aspi post reason why Chaoser is scum and vote Chaoser after he placed F.o.S. on you"
SHOULD BE READ AS
"Ser Aspi post reason why Chaoser is scum and vote Chaoser after he finds inconsistencies in your post"
I am find with this part because you further describe his F.o.S. on you.

This isn't what happened, either, so not only are you not brushed up on the topic in the voting thread, apparently you don't read the one with words in it either.


You say "this isn't what happened." Either you and I are reading Ser Aspi differently or you are using misinformation to catch people off guard. This is what I was referring to as your misinformation.

No comment on the parts below.

Now your turn to disect my previous post and explain about what exactly didn't happened.
You are saying that Ser Aspi read you as mafia and tried to convince town and not sucessful in doing do. While I agree that mafia won't recklessly risk themselves at leading lynches, I believe that they want to form a quick bandwagon on town.

But you also said Ser Aspi tried to create a bandwagon which is what mafia wants to do. That should be a scum tell instead of a defense why he is town.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
February 24 2011 04:25 GMT
#603
On February 24 2011 11:44 GMarshal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2011 11:39 annul wrote:
ok well i mean

i have great reads on both of them, but i dont know what else i need to say about it. can you tell me why chaoser and GM are NOT red?

the cells idea is horrible. why do we want to keep analysis private? there is no point in "bouncing off ideas" to a RNG "town circle". this only hurts us. why keep analysis of any type from the town? also, the point of these town circles is what exactly? to have people critique any analysis before "revealing" it? ok assume that is the case, then what happens when the mafia are in these cells? player A says "OK so i got an analysis on player D (outside the cell), who i think is mafia" player B says "no thats horrible, ________" and convinces A. A now doesnt say anything, to not look stupid (that IS the point of these cells, after all!). oops, B and D are mafia. we're fucked.

if A just came out and said "hey i have this analysis" B is probably less likely to defend D if it's blatant redness


No, the point is to cause otherwise inactive players to feel obliged to post, it is to increase the amount of information available, when I ask a general question like "what do you guys think about GMarshal" lurkers are free to either ignore it or jump on what one person says. By using these circles people are actually forced to voice an opinion if you guys want there is nothing stopping you from posting all the analysis you do in the circle and every random thought you have in the general thread, also its important for people to remember that it is possible that people in their circle are scum, thats part of the goal of the circle.

Also nothing is stopping a player who writes a good analysis from bouncing it off people outside their circle. Although I will agree that the weakness of this circle plan is the fact that a 2 scum circle can adversely influence the townie

tldr: the point of the circle is to force people to think rather than sheeping with other peoples opinions

I still see problem with mandatory circles. Your point of making these circles is to encourage participation. You already acknowledge the cons of these circle so I'll leave it at that.

I just came from playing orpah where I was in game made circle (lover) with zerroth. I tried pming him but he didn't respond and got lynched early. So I think even if you force inactives into circles, they wouldn't contribute if they choose not to.

So your point of encouraging contribution from inactive is not worth the risk of mafia gain info from these circle.

Again, I prefer people forming pm circles with people they trust. I'll give the example of XXV where barunder asked me a lot about Mr.Zergling. Because of the circle, we (he mostly) figured it out Mr.Zergling was playing a lot different. Yes, the read was negative but at least we were able to read each other as town.
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