EPTMy character is the assorted cast of Dinosaur Comics.
I am going to be so all over any Thom Yorke clues.
Mini Mafia V: Clues and Puzzles
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My character is the assorted cast of Dinosaur Comics. I am going to be so all over any Thom Yorke clues. | ||
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Remember not to throw out normal analysis either. Though it's been made obvious that we can catch the mafia with the day posts alone, there's absolutely nothing stopping us from capturing scum the old-fashioned way. | ||
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"I'll give the story some good analysis and see what I can come up with." | ||
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A couple of "hostage situations" are mentioned in the post. These could refer to Carlos the Jackal, a terrorist known for causing a couple of hostage situations, most prominently the OPEC raid of 1975. The British East Indian company could be linked as an OPEC analogue, as the second attack was on a "shareholder board". The lack of bodies could also be linked to the way hostages were flown on planes. The lack of corpses could be linked to Yossarian of Catch-22. In Catch-22, one of Yossarian's close friends (Orr) is shot down while on a mission. His body is never found. Later, it is revealed that Orr never died, but rowed all the way to neutral Swedish waters. I think more story would need to be revealed if this were to be the key to the clue. | ||
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On January 26 2011 08:50 LSB wrote: Each day post will be about one mafia. It won't be obvious, but it will be pretty specific once you figure out what is happening. One idea I have for a day post is a Sherlock Holmes story. A typical Sherlock Holmes story gives you enough info that you figure out everything that is happening, and then Holmes explains what happens. What if I gave you a Sherlock Holmes story, but killed off Sherlock before he could explain what happened? There's all the information, and its up to you to figure out what happened. EDIT: The clues will be much more specific than XXXVI. Once you figure it out what the day post is about, it will point to one person, but the problem is figuring it out. This all seems to state that the story as a whole will point to a specific person, rather than there being a small reference slipped in somewhere. This makes me think that Carlos the Jackal is the best fit so far. I mean, it's a string of hostage situations caused by a terrorist organization. Does that sound like anybody else? | ||
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On January 30 2011 04:34 chaoser wrote: ##Vote Node Let's hear some of your own opinions instead of being so unsure about everything you're saying. I don't follow what you're accusing me of. Analyzing clues isn't a one-way thing -- it's a discussion. I put forth what I saw, and asked if anyone had something to add to it. If it makes you feel better, I'll stop asking questions in my analysis. | ||
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 For now, I'm going to vote Jackal58 since there doesn't seem to be any other solid clue leads and he hasn't exactly put up much of a defense. ##Vote Jackal58 | ||
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On January 31 2011 13:14 annul wrote: uh LSB you may want to edit the night post cuz i think this game is broke  As much as I wish that we just got handed the scum team, the players other than Jackal58 in that PM aren't in the game. | ||
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On January 29 2011 13:22 Jackal58 wrote: Pandas eat bamboo. If Q was pissed at pandas he'd just make them all disappear. I'm not seeing anything but the wall/gravel connection yet. And that's not all that strong. Light defense of Pandain here. On January 29 2011 13:25 Jackal58 wrote: From Wiki: A reference to the missing bodies? Puts some suspicion on Raiden / CubEdIn. As far as I can tell he's the only one to mention this character. On January 30 2011 05:03 Jackal58 wrote: Yep. I see points of the story in my wiki link. But I also can see points of the story in everybody's wiki link. Except Pandains. Haven't been able to make any connections to pandas.  Again, light defense of Pandain. But it's not like he lied here, we know that the post didn't apply to pandas at all. On January 31 2011 07:47 Jackal58 wrote: + Show Spoiler + On January 31 2011 06:40 DoctorHelvetica wrote: i don't understand your response so we should utilize only your connection of J Swift. and not consider any others? if anything its more likely he'll connect AMP than gullivers travels since that work is quoted in gmarshall's profile. it would be stupid not to consider it Goddamit I HAVE MADE NO CONNECTION TO SWIFT!!!!!! Stop putting words in my mouth.  He pretty vehemently denies having put suspicion on Swift / GMarshall. In the end, he didn't really lead us anywhere, as pretty much anybody can analyze clues. But I'm a bit more suspicious of GMarshall now, as Jackal seemed incredibly determined to make sure that there was no link present between them. I'll also keep an eye out for clues related to Pandain, but there's definitely nothing concrete here. | ||
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That doesn't clear doch, though. The Lego aliens could be linked to the Radiohead song "Subterranean Homesick Alien". I've got nothing on the footprints, though. There is a radiohead song prominently featuring the lyric "I'm not here, this isn't happening", but that's a big enough stretch that I'm willing to discount it. I would say that if the clues do reference Thom Yorke, the first one is the red herring. I think there's something we're missing in reference to another character, but I haven't found anything yet. It's likely a lot more simple than we're making it. I'm also not willing to play the "lynch one guy, and if he's not red, lynch the other guy" game. It's far too easy for town to just attack each other in the clue set-up using the clues instead of actual behavior as their justification. Trust me, just because someone understood a clue wrong it hardly means they are mafia. | ||
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On February 02 2011 07:00 shannn wrote: I like that you cast suspicion on me. I'm not going to defend myself because there is nothing that I can gain by defending myself. I am Q I fit all clues no matter what. Day 1 clues I can fit them all. Day 2 I can fit them all. Like I said previously. Anything but I mean anything can be related to me. This is very poor reasoning. Granted, Q has the ability to do anything and everything, but the things Pandain pointed out (with the exception of tracks in the snow) have to do more with his character (the things he has said and done) and less with his abilities. For instance, showing an alien creature surrounded by spacemen is a very strong link to Q's character and the experiences he had. It's WIFOM, but saying "Q can be and do anything" is as much a way for you to deflect suspicion as it is to put it on you. | ||
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I don't think chaoser disagreeing with drH over kenpachi is enough to call either of them scum. Neither of them have actually said anything outright wrong, it's just been difference of opinion. I'm willing to reconsider depending on how the argument develops, though. ##Vote CubEdin | ||
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On February 05 2011 02:51 darmousseh wrote: Very true, if I am mafia then this would be the most optimal choice of my plan, however, a good mafia would never have come up with the plan that will produce a mafia anyway and instead the mafia will be stalling and suggesting that we simply override the vote and continue the game normally. If you believe someone else is more likely green than myself, then suggest that person instead, but I want what is best for town and so i'm willing to volunteer for it. Put simply, this isn't true. The absolute best-case scenario for mafia is that you are mafia. Under either of your plans, the message would be corrupt and a townie will be lynched. The next day would be LYLO. (4 town vs 2 mafia, 2 vs 2 the next day if we mislynch) The town seems to agree that I would be the first to be lynched, and of course I'm going to say right now that that would be the wrong choice. I'm willing to volunteer, as I do believe that darmousseh is town, and that there are far more pros than cons to this plan. It's just something to keep in mind in case this goes belly-up. I'm just worried that if we end up lynching a townie the plan will be followed to a T, and the game will be over then and there. Even in a game where puzzles produce seemingly clear answers, we still need to rely on analysis in the long run. Here's hoping the mafia die tonight. ##Vote: darmousseh | ||
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On February 05 2011 13:45 darmousseh wrote: Why the heck would a medic ever claim being a medic if they were about to be lynched? That would be giving the mafia information and free reign to kill whomever they please with fear of being blocked by the medic. If you are really the medic then claiming to be medic is the worst possible thing you could do to help us win. If you are a medic and truly have the best interest of town in mind, then it's better to claim green or claim vet. The only scenario you could possibly want to do this is if there is a small chance you can influence the lynch otherwise and if you were a vet in order to soak up the next hit from mafia. Given that this situation is highly unlikely, i'm now highly confident node is green and that you are mafia and am glad we won't have to waste a lynch on node or I. To be fair, medic is the one role in this game that is a) provable and b) especially worth thinking about saving. If chaoser is trying to save his ass, it's worth a shot. If DrH really thinks it's possible to confirm chaoser, I'll highly consider following along. I haven't thought of a scenario where this would be possible, though. Of course, the other scenario is that both DrH and chaoser are mafia, in which case, wowza. In the end, I think the safer option is to lynch chaoser. It'll suck if we lose a medic, but if he flips mafia it heavily implicates DrH. His play is incredibly ballsy for that to be the case, but it's a situation where it would definitely take balls to pull out alive. | ||
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On February 06 2011 08:05 shannn wrote: Notice something abnormal? Chaoser hasn't voted yet. If he were town he'd try to help town by actually voting on himself as the first person by saying he's medic but willing to help town which he'll probably do after my post. It's as if he wants to be saved from getting lynched. What the hell? This is just the worst kind of WIFOM. While I agree that we should stick with the plan, are you seriously suggestion that the best reaction of an innocent medic is to vote for themselves? That's kind of ridiculous. | ||
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On February 06 2011 11:56 darmousseh wrote: Wow node, chaoser had you figured out right at the beginning with that random vote. You bussed the very first mafia in order to get the idea that you are mafia out right from the start. When mr wiggles figured out the clues you quickly agreed with him (in 6 mins) and then proceeded from there. Node you have had absolutely 0 contributions. Go back and read everything he has said. Right, because I did the clue research and wrote that whole post in the space of six minutes. I'm not going to argue that my analysis was better than Mr. Wiggles', or anything of that nature. But is your argument here really that I dashed out something appearing as clue analysis the moment Mr. Wiggles posted what he saw? I hope that the other players can recognize coincidence when they see it. And of course you're the last person to actually vote for Jackal, long after the vote has been decided. And of course Jackal puts his vote on you, likely in an attempt to distance you two as much as possible. You want to talk about agreeing after the fact? How about this post? On January 30 2011 02:41 shannn wrote: Upon reading the rest of the comments I have to agree with Mr. Wiggles and Node. Especially Wiggles's explaination points towards Carlos the Jackal. Similar events and himself being a terrorist as well. That last part of LSB about gravel does make it sound like it's Gaara but the rest of the story doesn't fit him as it seems it's all about 1 person and the story fits others moreso than him. But let's not exlude the writer as well. Has that writer any stories which is similar to the situations LSB has written? For now it seems it's either Carlos the Jackal or the writer. DrH seems to be advocating that we lynch outside of us two before we make this decision. Doctor, are you really so sure of shann that you think he's more likely to be mafia than a 50/50 between myself and darmousseh? Town can't afford to mislynch. Of course, I know I'm town, so I think it's safer to lynch darmousseh. I agree that shann is suspicious, but I feel we simply have less to go on there. | ||
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). My bad there. Here:On January 30 2011 03:35 darmousseh wrote: Obviously I'll be a little biased since my character is gaara, but Gaara used sand and in all cases he always left behind traces of sand and thats it, he never any traces of blood. There was a character in naruto who was like gaara but used rocks, but he didn't have a big role and wasn't related to gaara at all. If the clues are anything like XXXVI, then usually the entire post is reference to the person and there are 5-6 clues which point directly to that person which fit the entire post, not a small portion. Carlos the jackal seems like a very good match so far. Yesterday was the wife's birthday, so today I will have time to read the thread and I'll try to find hints. | ||
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