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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 03 2011 23:06 GMT
#29
Oh I forgot to /in...assuming there are still plans to eventually start.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 11 2011 03:35 GMT
#104
On January 22 2011 16:31 annul wrote:
i hope this counts as theme and not normal. forge PMs allowed? dead players can still interact? the fuck?


On January 22 2011 19:08 Incognito wrote:
3 mafia and 2 KP for a 30 person game seems wayy too town favored. But then again, I have no idea what other mechanics are in the game. I guess I'll just wait to see what turns up.


On February 11 2011 10:01 Coagulation wrote:
MY PM IS TIRED.


On February 11 2011 10:19 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Dunno, got my PM though, no flip, no clues mentioned, all based off whatever wacky stuff happens in the game, we don't even know what roles exist, besides maybe some standard ones.


On February 11 2011 10:20 JBright wrote:
Got my PM too.


On February 11 2011 10:24 chaoser wrote:
This feels a little like Penalty Mafia. Mt character is pretty lawl.


On February 11 2011 12:30 chaoser wrote:
OHHHH SNAP! THEMS FIGHTING WORDS


First off, you guys are all idiots.

On February 11 2011 12:15 Ace wrote:
oh and just to make things easier

Vote: Coagulation. Lets not take any chances with silly players :D


Statistically speaking, from the countless games I've played in the past, the chances of lynching a scum on day one is only 12.58%. In addition, lynching coag raises the town's chances of victory by an impressive 23.98%. Approximately one in four games he is the sole cause of a town collapse. I support this idea.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 11 2011 03:53 GMT
#107
On February 11 2011 12:45 GMarshal wrote:

I like your imaginary numbers kitaman, however I think coag is actually a decent player, even if his posting habits leave something to be desired,


Imaginary? No. However, I forgive your lack of experience.

Decent player? Take Salem mafia for instance. Not only did he claim day one as medic, he started a series of events that led to the entire town role claiming to the godfather. Town cannot repeat the mistake of allowing him to stick around, regardless of alignment.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 11 2011 04:05 GMT
#114
On February 11 2011 13:03 thefluffyone93 wrote:
I say pever, you didn't burden someone with the role that forces the player to write in huge, multi-colored text, and occasionally post meme pictures, did you?

Because that would be very.....annoying.


I'm not sure I like the fact that you are questioning the all powerful moderator...
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 11 2011 04:11 GMT
#116
On February 11 2011 13:06 Coagulation wrote:
that was in response to kitaman27


Do not address me by my former mortal name. I am now a god amongst men.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 11 2011 04:27 GMT
#132
On February 11 2011 13:23 Coagulation wrote:
Guys lets get this out of the way.
Im not mafia.


You were right. You're not very persuasive at all.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 11 2011 04:57 GMT
#142
On February 11 2011 13:49 aidnai wrote:
Rofl...I see Kenpachi and Pandain are not playing, so I hate to say it Coag but you're our only viable day 1 lynch.

I see that there are only 3 scum, and there's no abstaining. We're almost certainly gonna be lynching a lot of townies this game. KP will be our best indicator of lynch success it looks like, though if we kill the GF we may not realize immediately.

I'm most interested in getting to know the new guys pevergreen brought over, so let's get down to business:
Vote: ELITECubWarman8
for being new and having such a long fricking name.


You suck....twice.

If we were to select one of the newer guys to lynch, I would choose Project Psycho. He certainly gets on my nerves.

On February 11 2011 13:50 Coagulation wrote:
We should lynch zerroth
because the last game
completely inactive
only posted/vote to avoid modkill etc

Lets get the inactives out now


Agreed. In Haunted Mafia, he publicly claimed mafia directly resulting in a town loss.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 11 2011 17:47 GMT
#220
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On February 11 2011 14:34 aidnai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2011 13:50 Coagulation wrote:
We should lynch zerroth
because the last game
completely inactive
only posted/vote to avoid modkill etc

Lets get the inactives out now


Oh WTF zerroth is playing? he got modkilled I thought he was doing a 1 game ban right now. Hmm... I guess that will start after this game then.

And, I suck Kita? I'm guessing this is just your character talking... + Show Spoiler +
lol you shot BC twice lol + Show Spoiler +
although the first time was justifiable :/


@Ace: I agree 27/3 is pretty stacked. Since the OP specifically says Mafia is 2 grunts + Godfather, I'm guessing there's a third party. Possibly mafia can recruit, possibly there are "townies" that win with scum (can't remember the term for that). Or as you say, OP scum roles.

I'm tempted to browse pevergreen's games at the other site since I have a feeling he's run this exact setup before... No time for that at the moment unfortunately.


On February 11 2011 15:04 why wrote:
I've read a couple of pever's game and it looks like there are tons of different alignments in play. For example, here is the role list for the Revenge of Irishmore which resulted in a cult victory (I think, there were multiple endings):

+ Show Spoiler +
Mafia members:
A Very Super Market
Askthepizzaguy
Csargo
spL1tp3r50naL1ty
TinCow

Australian Cult Members:
Methos
YLC
atheotes

Kiwi Cult Member:
atheotes

Scottish killers:
Thermal Mercury
Warman

Doctors:
Dr. Yaseikhaan
Lord Winter the intern
Renata the Emergency Room specialist.
Joooray the Pyschiatrist

French Kidnapper:
Sigurd

Arsonist:
Reenk Roink

Original carer of Wee Sean:
Sasaki Kojiro

Town Drunk:
GeneralHankerchief

Priest:
Centurion1

Queen:
Chaotix

Special Townie:
Diamondeye

Detective:
Scienter


Pretty sure that is 2 cults and a mafia team, and that was when there were 5 mafia members... I think we have to be ready for anything.

Anyway, back to the actual game. I don't know how you usually play, coag, but you are reacting really really defensively to votes that were little more than jokes that popped up because people were bored. Not sure if you usually react this way or there's some history involved, but its definitely setting off alarm bells.

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On February 11 2011 14:26 GGQ wrote:
Vote: Coagulation


And GGQ, I too would like at least some explanation of your vote on coag. Everyone else has at least a sentence explaining their vote.


On February 11 2011 15:27 Ace wrote:
well people get accused all of the time. Why panic?

Besides I don't see what the voting rules are in the OP. Is it Majority lynch or most votes to lynch?


On February 11 2011 15:35 JBright wrote:
Since everyone has a specified role to take, will looking at past games still be important for analysis? People could be playing up their characters and forcefully change their posting habits, but that's hard to tell.


On February 11 2011 15:37 aidnai wrote:
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On February 11 2011 15:23 Believer wrote:
On February 11 2011 13:54 Coagulation wrote:
why would you lynch someone who is a KNOWN active poster/contributor day 1?
and leave lurkers alone.
Are you kidding me?


Everyone has been new at some point, cut them some slack. Chill out!

Spoiler-tagging for long quote. :')

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On February 11 2011 15:04 why wrote:
I've read a couple of pever's game and it looks like there are tons of different alignments in play. For example, here is the role list for the Revenge of Irishmore which resulted in a cult victory (I think, there were multiple endings):

+ Show Spoiler +
Mafia members:
A Very Super Market
Askthepizzaguy
Csargo
spL1tp3r50naL1ty
TinCow

Australian Cult Members:
Methos
YLC
atheotes

Kiwi Cult Member:
atheotes

Scottish killers:
Thermal Mercury
Warman

Doctors:
Dr. Yaseikhaan
Lord Winter the intern
Renata the Emergency Room specialist.
Joooray the Pyschiatrist

French Kidnapper:
Sigurd

Arsonist:
Reenk Roink

Original carer of Wee Sean:
Sasaki Kojiro

Town Drunk:
GeneralHankerchief

Priest:
Centurion1

Queen:
Chaotix

Special Townie:
Diamondeye

Detective:
Scienter


Pretty sure that is 2 cults and a mafia team, and that was when there were 5 mafia members... I think we have to be ready for anything.

Anyway, back to the actual game. I don't know how you usually play, coag, but you are reacting really really defensively to votes that were little more than jokes that popped up because people were bored. Not sure if you usually react this way or there's some history involved, but its definitely setting off alarm bells.

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On February 11 2011 14:26 GGQ wrote:
Vote: Coagulation


And GGQ, I too would like at least some explanation of your vote on coag. Everyone else has at least a sentence explaining their vote.



Come on now, wouldn't you get aggravated if you were accused of something you were not?

He's probably just a bit on edge at the moment, let him cool off and he'll show a valuable asset in the future. :')


First off, don't edit. It's a cardinal sin, or perhaps a mortal sin (anyone know which is worse?). Second, before you start defending Coag, I'd go look at some of his prior games. His play style is hard to read at best, and harmful to town at worst...

Why, thanks for doing that extra research. I'll tentatively assume we're dealing with cult(s) for now. Did you happen to see what kind of KP or abilities the cults had? Sorry for not looking myself, but I'm trying to develop a function/algorithim for a spreadsheet for work at the moment...


On February 11 2011 16:29 Ace wrote:
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On February 11 2011 15:29 Believer wrote:
On February 11 2011 15:27 Ace wrote:
well people get accused all of the time. Why panic?

Besides I don't see what the voting rules are in the OP. Is it Majority lynch or most votes to lynch?


Majority and most votes are the same thing, are they not?


my bad I'll clarify.

Majority lynch is when (#of players voting/# of players alive) + 1 votes on the same suspect. Or in other words more than half the players alive. If no one has majority no one is lynched.

Most votes is that when the deadline hits (say voting ends at 9PM) then who ever has the most votes is lynched whether it's only 2 or 3 votes.


On February 11 2011 17:04 bumatlarge wrote:
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On February 11 2011 16:56 gryffindor wrote:
So, let me get this straight, you're defending him by saying he plays the same way as both town and scum?


Fantastic point. Coag has definitely shown us no indication of at least trying to help town. He's an easy choice. Present a better candidate, Node, or just inform coagulation that he needs to change his meta. Who needs RNG?


On February 11 2011 17:44 Coagulation wrote:
Yes i am known as a impossible to read player.
But i am also a VERY OUTSPOKEN player at the same time.
I NEVER HIDE. Im always 100% UPFRONT and straight to the point.
And there are also many people who will confirm that i am an extremely HONEST player.
Im telling you guys
Zerroth is the best lynch
Your gonna get zero information on him.
Not because hes a hard to read player but because he doesnt post anything tangible at all.
and its alot worse having that around in the game than it is to have a hard to read player.




On February 11 2011 17:47 Ace wrote:
Actually a hard to read player is still bad

If you don't appear Pro-Town to me why would I want to keep you alive?


On February 11 2011 23:17 deconduo wrote:
Thoughts on setup:

Ok time to get started. We could potentially have a lot of weird/crazy mechanics in play so we need to be on the look out for anything. As was stated before (by why), there been numerous different factions in his previous games:

+ Show Spoiler +

Inismór Mafia 1:

Role List:

IRA:
Godfather: Diana Abonba
Grunts: Andres/ATPGuy

English:
Godfather: GH
Grunts: Ituralde/Sasaki Kojiro

Pro Town:
Donney: Seamus
Davey: FactionHeir
Mairead: Reenk Roink

Neutral:
Padraic: AVSM
Heilyn: 'khaan
Artair: El Diablo

-------

Grunts kill once per night. Once both were dead, godfather could kill once per night. Godfather showed up as innocent until they had performed a kill.
Donney was the detective.
Davey was the gossip person, leaving clues in the writeups. Later gained the ability to either protect/investigate/roleblock one person per night.
Mairead was the doctor, but also a non kill target for Padraic. Later gained the ability to roleblock the person s/he protected if they were anti-town.
Padraic: The generic Serial Killer, didn't have to kill Mairead though.
Heilyn: Welsh boxer, survive one night kill. Only had to survive.
Artair: Late blooming Serial Killer.


+ Show Spoiler +

Inismór Mafia 2:

Mafia members:
A Very Super Market
Askthepizzaguy
Csargo
spL1tp3r50naL1ty
TinCow

Australian Cult Members:
Methos
YLC
atheotes

Kiwi Cult Member:
atheotes

Scottish killers:
Thermal Mercury
Warman

Doctors:
Dr. Yaseikhaan
Lord Winter the intern
Renata the Emergency Room specialist.
Joooray the Pyschiatrist

French Kidnapper:
Sigurd

Arsonist:
Reenk Roink

Original carer of Wee Sean:
Sasaki Kojiro

Town Drunk:
GeneralHankerchief

Priest:
Centurion1

Queen:
Chaotix

Special Townie:
Diamondeye

Detective:
Scienter



+ Show Spoiler +

Riftwar Mafia:

Role Allocation:

I gathered the list of players, randomised the list via random.org 10 times, then simply matched that to my role list.


First Group: Mafia Faction, Midkemia, The Nighthawks. Group of Assassins, using crossbows and swords, wearing black clothing, poison rings and sometimes teeth, with hawk medallions.
Yasaikhaan
Renata
Centurion1

Second Group: Mafia Faction, Midkemia, Murmandamus and followers.
atheotes: Murmandamus. Panthanian priest disguised as a Moredhel, objective to bring his 'goddess', Alma-Lodaka, back to life.
Crazed Rabbit: Murad, unable to speak, as he cut his tongue out to prove his loyalty.
A1_Unit: Gorath, secretly traitor, had to find Arutha to bring public knowledge of the second group to light.


Secret Roles:
Askthepizzaguy: Banath, God of Trickery, the hopeless quest and patron of thieves. Had semi-disguise as The Blue Rider, who is later known as Nakor.
Chaotix: Sarig, dead god of magic.
death is yonder: Alma-Lodaka, Valheru, creator of the Panthanians.
scottishranger: Nalar, trapped god of evil. Able to force people to do almost anything, they showed as confused or with a strange look on the faces in the write up.


Pro-town, Midkemia
Greyblades: Pug (Keep orphan, turned master magician)
Sigurd: Tomas (Pug's best friend, half Valheru, due to his armour)
Beskar: Macros (The Black Sorcerer)
Sasaki Kojiro: Algaranna (Elven Queen)
Sprig: Calin (Elven Warleader, son of the Queen)
Csargo: Tathar (Eldest Spellweaver)
Elite Ferret: Arutha ConDoin, Prince of Krondor
Major Robert Dump: Martin ConDoin, Duke of Crydee
White_Eyes:D: Lyam ConDoin, King of the Kingdom of the Isles
rhawn: Jimmy the Hand, later Squire James then Duke James of Krondor
Joooray: Laurie, ex Tsurani slave, bard.


Third Group: Mafia Faction, Kelewan, The Minwanabi House
A Very Super Market: Lord Desio of the Minwanabi
Khazaar: Lord Tasaio of the Minwanabi
Shlin28: Teani, secretly traitor, agent of the Anasati
Beefy187: Shimizu, Captain of the Guard


Fourth Group: Kelewan, The Acoma House
Zain: Lady Mara of the Acoma
CountArach: Strike Leader Papewaio of the Acoma (Yes this is where our moderator papewaio gets his username from)
Karo: Force Commander Keyoke, now Advisor for War, of the Acoma


Fifth Group: Kelewan, The Anasati House
johnhughthom: Tecuma, Lord of the Anasati
GeneralHankerchief: Chumaka, First Advisor of the Anasati


Sixth Group: Kelewan, The Assembley of Magicians
Subotan: Shimone
Captain Blackadder: Hochopepa


Seventh Group: Kelewan, The Emperor and his bodyguards
spltpersonality: Emperor Ichindar
Double A: Magician Bodyguard
A completely inoffensive name: Magician Bodyguard


Eighth Group:Delayed Mafia Faction, Kelewan, Thuril Confederation
LittleGrizzly
Andres
Reenk Roink


Ninth Group: Kelewan, delayed pro-town group, Grey Warriors
Iskander 3.1: Lujan
KukriKhan: Saric
Tratorix/Captain C: Dakhati


Independants:
YLC: Delayed Serial Killer, Cho-ja
Lord Winter: The Upright Man



It is not a stretch to assume there is going to be multiple factions of differing alignments in this game. However this is still speculation.

The information we know for a fact is as follows:
-2 Mafia Goons, 1 Godfather. Initially 1KP per goon, if both goons die then GF gets 2 KP.
-No fool/idiot roles.
-Each person is given a name/personality. These are taken from mafia players in the totalwar forums.

I feel like we might be able to use the names like a weak clue system, but it will require a lot of research.




Thoughts on people's votes/play so far:


-fluffywhatever: Looks like an import from TotalWar? RNGs a vote on Misder as first post of the day. I don't like doing it but it seems to be common practice on the TW forums.

-aidnai: Another RNG vote. Agrees with Node that coag is playing normally.

-Coag/bum/ace: failsauce

-why: I don't think I've seen him before, but so far I like his play. He did a bit of research into pever's previous games and called GCQ out on scummy play. Looks promising.

-believer: edits, defends GCQ

-darmousseh: I found him quite scummy initially in XXXVI, but that was more due to suspicious voting patterns than anything else, (sheeping scum ) Votes Zerroth with decent reasoning. Seems good for now. Only problem I would have is that he is a bit lacking on activity, but its early yet.

-gryffindor: Another possible import from TWI think? Claims Node defended coag where I don't think there was anything. Seems to be an experienced player that likes playing a lot of mindgames:
+ Show Spoiler +
On February 11 2011 16:17 gryffindor wrote:
I see Coagulation is spazzing out. Why are you spamming the thread?

I have a town read already, but I will not disclose on who, and a casual suspicion. I will have to wait to see if I can pick up on any associative tells from them in the future. I might be reading too much into the situation. I do not want to tip them off to tighten up their game, though, as I want to see them lynched.

I am not really for Day 1 policy lynches if the person is town. Does anyone have any meta on Coagulation? I don't want to lose a player to a mislynch, though I do not know his alignment. Can anyone help out on this?

Thanks!




On February 11 2011 18:08 gryffindor wrote:
unvote
My vote was more for pressure than anything. It didn't really gain the reaction that I wanted.

@Misder, why are you voting who you are voting?


On February 11 2011 21:42 gryffindor wrote:
I don't like your OMGUS, and I don't like your response to me, you're my top scumspect.
Misder, can you give me a reference to your best town and best scum game?
IGMEOY


Keeping an eye on him.

misder: OMGUS votes fluffy. Maybe an overreaction, but seems like a weird move because he's not inexperienced.

Node: Tries to stop the coag clusterfuck by pointing out that coag is playing normally. Tries to get the town back on track to proper discussion. Solid town play imo. This post stands out:
+ Show Spoiler +
On February 11 2011 17:42 Node wrote:
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On February 11 2011 17:34 gryffindor wrote:
I have to agree with Misder. Node is reading as if he is buddying up to defend a mislynch as scum.
vote: Node


I don't follow what you said. You think my plan is to let Coagulation die (even though I'm apparently defending him), and then when we realize that he's not scum (which, as far as I know, we can't), come out and say "I told you so". Do I have it right?




Today's Lynch:

As for today's lynch, saying 'lynch coag cos hes bad lol 111!!' is a stupid idea. Zerroth is a much better candidate by all the reasons given by people voting for coag. He is known to lurk and not contribute from several other games.

Vote: Zerroth



On February 11 2011 23:38 GMarshal wrote:
About the factions, I have to wonder if they win with town, or if they have different win conditions altogether.

Also I just noticed this is a PM allowed game, this can make things rather interesting.

As for the vote today I agree with killing inactives, I'm rather wound up about the level of inactivity in XXXVI, for that reason I'm going to go with Zerroth at least until we get some activity out of him
##Vote: Zerroth


On February 11 2011 23:51 gryffindor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2011 23:17 deconduo wrote:
Thoughts on setup:

Ok time to get started. We could potentially have a lot of weird/crazy mechanics in play so we need to be on the look out for anything. As was stated before (by why), there been numerous different factions in his previous games:

+ Show Spoiler +

Inismór Mafia 1:

Role List:

IRA:
Godfather: Diana Abonba
Grunts: Andres/ATPGuy

English:
Godfather: GH
Grunts: Ituralde/Sasaki Kojiro

Pro Town:
Donney: Seamus
Davey: FactionHeir
Mairead: Reenk Roink

Neutral:
Padraic: AVSM
Heilyn: 'khaan
Artair: El Diablo

-------

Grunts kill once per night. Once both were dead, godfather could kill once per night. Godfather showed up as innocent until they had performed a kill.
Donney was the detective.
Davey was the gossip person, leaving clues in the writeups. Later gained the ability to either protect/investigate/roleblock one person per night.
Mairead was the doctor, but also a non kill target for Padraic. Later gained the ability to roleblock the person s/he protected if they were anti-town.
Padraic: The generic Serial Killer, didn't have to kill Mairead though.
Heilyn: Welsh boxer, survive one night kill. Only had to survive.
Artair: Late blooming Serial Killer.


+ Show Spoiler +

Inismór Mafia 2:

Mafia members:
A Very Super Market
Askthepizzaguy
Csargo
spL1tp3r50naL1ty
TinCow

Australian Cult Members:
Methos
YLC
atheotes

Kiwi Cult Member:
atheotes

Scottish killers:
Thermal Mercury
Warman

Doctors:
Dr. Yaseikhaan
Lord Winter the intern
Renata the Emergency Room specialist.
Joooray the Pyschiatrist

French Kidnapper:
Sigurd

Arsonist:
Reenk Roink

Original carer of Wee Sean:
Sasaki Kojiro

Town Drunk:
GeneralHankerchief

Priest:
Centurion1

Queen:
Chaotix

Special Townie:
Diamondeye

Detective:
Scienter



+ Show Spoiler +

Riftwar Mafia:

Role Allocation:

I gathered the list of players, randomised the list via random.org 10 times, then simply matched that to my role list.


First Group: Mafia Faction, Midkemia, The Nighthawks. Group of Assassins, using crossbows and swords, wearing black clothing, poison rings and sometimes teeth, with hawk medallions.
Yasaikhaan
Renata
Centurion1

Second Group: Mafia Faction, Midkemia, Murmandamus and followers.
atheotes: Murmandamus. Panthanian priest disguised as a Moredhel, objective to bring his 'goddess', Alma-Lodaka, back to life.
Crazed Rabbit: Murad, unable to speak, as he cut his tongue out to prove his loyalty.
A1_Unit: Gorath, secretly traitor, had to find Arutha to bring public knowledge of the second group to light.


Secret Roles:
Askthepizzaguy: Banath, God of Trickery, the hopeless quest and patron of thieves. Had semi-disguise as The Blue Rider, who is later known as Nakor.
Chaotix: Sarig, dead god of magic.
death is yonder: Alma-Lodaka, Valheru, creator of the Panthanians.
scottishranger: Nalar, trapped god of evil. Able to force people to do almost anything, they showed as confused or with a strange look on the faces in the write up.


Pro-town, Midkemia
Greyblades: Pug (Keep orphan, turned master magician)
Sigurd: Tomas (Pug's best friend, half Valheru, due to his armour)
Beskar: Macros (The Black Sorcerer)
Sasaki Kojiro: Algaranna (Elven Queen)
Sprig: Calin (Elven Warleader, son of the Queen)
Csargo: Tathar (Eldest Spellweaver)
Elite Ferret: Arutha ConDoin, Prince of Krondor
Major Robert Dump: Martin ConDoin, Duke of Crydee
White_Eyes:D: Lyam ConDoin, King of the Kingdom of the Isles
rhawn: Jimmy the Hand, later Squire James then Duke James of Krondor
Joooray: Laurie, ex Tsurani slave, bard.


Third Group: Mafia Faction, Kelewan, The Minwanabi House
A Very Super Market: Lord Desio of the Minwanabi
Khazaar: Lord Tasaio of the Minwanabi
Shlin28: Teani, secretly traitor, agent of the Anasati
Beefy187: Shimizu, Captain of the Guard


Fourth Group: Kelewan, The Acoma House
Zain: Lady Mara of the Acoma
CountArach: Strike Leader Papewaio of the Acoma (Yes this is where our moderator papewaio gets his username from)
Karo: Force Commander Keyoke, now Advisor for War, of the Acoma


Fifth Group: Kelewan, The Anasati House
johnhughthom: Tecuma, Lord of the Anasati
GeneralHankerchief: Chumaka, First Advisor of the Anasati


Sixth Group: Kelewan, The Assembley of Magicians
Subotan: Shimone
Captain Blackadder: Hochopepa


Seventh Group: Kelewan, The Emperor and his bodyguards
spltpersonality: Emperor Ichindar
Double A: Magician Bodyguard
A completely inoffensive name: Magician Bodyguard


Eighth Group:Delayed Mafia Faction, Kelewan, Thuril Confederation
LittleGrizzly
Andres
Reenk Roink


Ninth Group: Kelewan, delayed pro-town group, Grey Warriors
Iskander 3.1: Lujan
KukriKhan: Saric
Tratorix/Captain C: Dakhati


Independants:
YLC: Delayed Serial Killer, Cho-ja
Lord Winter: The Upright Man



It is not a stretch to assume there is going to be multiple factions of differing alignments in this game. However this is still speculation.

The information we know for a fact is as follows:
-2 Mafia Goons, 1 Godfather. Initially 1KP per goon, if both goons die then GF gets 2 KP.
-No fool/idiot roles.
-Each person is given a name/personality. These are taken from mafia players in the totalwar forums.

I feel like we might be able to use the names like a weak clue system, but it will require a lot of research.




Thoughts on people's votes/play so far:


-fluffywhatever: Looks like an import from TotalWar? RNGs a vote on Misder as first post of the day. I don't like doing it but it seems to be common practice on the TW forums.

-aidnai: Another RNG vote. Agrees with Node that coag is playing normally.

-Coag/bum/ace: failsauce

-why: I don't think I've seen him before, but so far I like his play. He did a bit of research into pever's previous games and called GCQ out on scummy play. Looks promising.

-believer: edits, defends GCQ

-darmousseh: I found him quite scummy initially in XXXVI, but that was more due to suspicious voting patterns than anything else, (sheeping scum ) Votes Zerroth with decent reasoning. Seems good for now. Only problem I would have is that he is a bit lacking on activity, but its early yet.

-gryffindor: Another possible import from TWI think? Claims Node defended coag where I don't think there was anything. Seems to be an experienced player that likes playing a lot of mindgames:
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On February 11 2011 16:17 gryffindor wrote:
I see Coagulation is spazzing out. Why are you spamming the thread?

I have a town read already, but I will not disclose on who, and a casual suspicion. I will have to wait to see if I can pick up on any associative tells from them in the future. I might be reading too much into the situation. I do not want to tip them off to tighten up their game, though, as I want to see them lynched.

I am not really for Day 1 policy lynches if the person is town. Does anyone have any meta on Coagulation? I don't want to lose a player to a mislynch, though I do not know his alignment. Can anyone help out on this?

Thanks!




On February 11 2011 18:08 gryffindor wrote:
unvote
My vote was more for pressure than anything. It didn't really gain the reaction that I wanted.

@Misder, why are you voting who you are voting?


On February 11 2011 21:42 gryffindor wrote:
I don't like your OMGUS, and I don't like your response to me, you're my top scumspect.
Misder, can you give me a reference to your best town and best scum game?
IGMEOY


Keeping an eye on him.

misder: OMGUS votes fluffy. Maybe an overreaction, but seems like a weird move because he's not inexperienced.

Node: Tries to stop the coag clusterfuck by pointing out that coag is playing normally. Tries to get the town back on track to proper discussion. Solid town play imo. This post stands out:
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On February 11 2011 17:42 Node wrote:
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On February 11 2011 17:34 gryffindor wrote:
I have to agree with Misder. Node is reading as if he is buddying up to defend a mislynch as scum.
vote: Node


I don't follow what you said. You think my plan is to let Coagulation die (even though I'm apparently defending him), and then when we realize that he's not scum (which, as far as I know, we can't), come out and say "I told you so". Do I have it right?




Today's Lynch:

As for today's lynch, saying 'lynch coag cos hes bad lol 111!!' is a stupid idea. Zerroth is a much better candidate by all the reasons given by people voting for coag. He is known to lurk and not contribute from several other games.

Vote: Zerroth


I noticed you were suspicious of me in your post. Is it simply due to my experience? I don't really mind if a wagon forms around me; I'm sure it can be used to benefit us.

I'm assuming this game is similar to the first game, but possibly edited somewhat. The 1/2 godfather/grunt mechanic seems very similar to that. Looking at all those games, in fact, I wouldn't be surprised to see really weird mechanics in play. The best thing to do as town is to roll with the punches, from my personal experience, when given a setup like this. That's all we can really do; It's tough on us without any information! At this point, all we have is speculation.

Speculation on day 1 is just that... speculation. There is nothing solid for us to go on, little scumhunting that can be done, and the only real tactics differ just as people are different. On the extreme liberal side, there is voting lurkers. Somewhere in the middle, we have policy lynching. Or, on the conservative end, there is creating pressure on people who are active and can be held accountable. These players are often more prone to slipping up.

I could be analyzing votecounts, and voting the person first alphabetically who has not voted/posted/appeared pro-town. This would be like fluffy using an RNG in his first post - it is null to me. People who do this are inherently anti-town while giving the appearance of being pro-town, and this sort of thing really needs to be snuffed out and nipped at the heels. I don't want to dip into basing alignment off of activity. Lurkers are going to lurk, and active players are going to be active, regardless of alignment. Remember that, folks.

I could easily bandwagon Coagulation, and my vote and suspiciousness of Node was really just a ploy. Coagulation is one of my two solid town reads thus far, and *I* am willing to defend him. I wish Node would have stepped up to the plate a little better, if anything I am more suspicious of him being scum now than I was when this whole ordeal started. Sorry to go off on a tangent, but what I'm trying to say here is that I don't really like to ride policy lynches.

I have been trying to shift towards the latter. I consider myself a conservative player, but people on this forum are not receptive to my style as town, apparently, as I have been drawing unwanted attention. I feel like John McEnroe objecting to a terrible call by a referee, right now lmao


On February 12 2011 01:45 darmousseh wrote:
Zerroth, you haven't said anything yet. People want to hear from you or else you are going to get lynched on day 1 for being inactive.



Can you guys cut it out? I'm starting to think you're doing this on purpose.....

On February 11 2011 19:12 Coagulation wrote:
kitaman27
Active player. aggressive sometimes. last game he mocked me for listing people who i had suspicions as mafia even tho i was right.(he was town) has some kind of personal vandetta against me or something. I have played many games with him but hes always been one of those players that doesnt stand out much.


If you call out half the players, you're bound to be right on a couple of them. If you were as experienced as myself, you could have easily identified that I was simply creating a fake bandwagon leading to multiple mafia voting against you. A player like yourself is hardly worth a personal vandetta from a player of my caliber.

On February 11 2011 19:02 bumatlarge wrote:
You are right, I am mafia.


k thx.

##Vote: bumatlarge
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
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February 11 2011 20:59 GMT
#226
On February 11 2011 13:14 pevergreen wrote:
It is now Day 1. This day phase will end 29 hours and 36 minutes from the time of this post (8pm Saturday GMT+10).


Just to confirm, voting ends at 4am EST (12 hours from now)? I'm so bad with timezones -_-
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 12 2011 03:10 GMT
#290
On February 12 2011 07:25 aidnai wrote:
Gryffindor. You'll notice towns on TL.net like to throw around FOSs at the most active players.

Remember everyone, zerroth is not the only inactive at present.

People with no posts since day start:
- Siniquity
- Zerroth
- Project Psycho*
- Johnhughthom*
- ELITEcubwarman8*
- Insanious
- Beefy187*
- me_viet*
* indicates people with no posts in this thread at all, meaning they may not have access yet. If access is not granted soon, I hope Pevergreen would consider extending day some more.

Of the people without asterisks, all of them (insanious, siniquity, and zerroth) have had issues with inactivity in the past, and are all equally eligible for that sort of policy lynch. Actually I don't remember any mod actions against siniquity (I know zerroth has a modkill/ban and insanious is sitting on a warning). But I don't remember siniquity being particularly active either.
IN ANY CASE, the sheeping on zerroth is DT worthy, as Ace pointed out.

Also, I'd like to say this post is scummy.


WHOA!!!!!

THIS GUY NEEDS TO DIE. NOW!

I can't believe no one else caught on to this. Everyone should change their vote to this guy in the next 6 hours or I'm going to become extremely suspicious. Analysis coming shortly.

Unvote
Vote aidnai
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 12 2011 03:36 GMT
#300
On February 11 2011 13:49 aidnai wrote:
Rofl...I see Kenpachi and Pandain are not playing, so I hate to say it Coag but you're our only viable day 1 lynch.


Jumps on the day one Coag bandwagon. Yet doesn't place his vote on him until the lynch gains more steam.

On February 11 2011 13:49 aidnai wrote:
I'm most interested in getting to know the new guys pevergreen brought over, so let's get down to business:
Vote: ELITECubWarman8
for being new and having such a long fricking name.


His reason for the lynch is because he doesn't like his name? What kind of excuse is that?

On February 11 2011 14:34 aidnai wrote:
I'm tempted to browse pevergreen's games at the other site since I have a feeling he's run this exact setup before... No time for that at the moment unfortunately.


What does this post even mean?

"Hey guys, I was thinking of doing something, but I just want to let you all know that I'm not"

Thanks for the info!

On February 11 2011 15:37 aidnai wrote:
First off, don't edit. It's a cardinal sin, or perhaps a mortal sin (anyone know which is worse?). Second, before you start defending Coag, I'd go look at some of his prior games. His play style is hard to read at best, and harmful to town at worst...


Again, pushes the Coag bandwagon based on the fact that he is a tough player to read. While we are at it, why not lynch Ace too?

On February 11 2011 17:44 aidnai wrote:
Node is correct about Coag by the way, whether or not either of them is scum. Coag has done nothing unusual for his own 'meta' so far this game.


In other words: Leave coag alone! He has done nothing wrong this game. Why are people pushing for his lynch?

On February 11 2011 17:44 aidnai wrote:
FOS on gryffindor. I won't change my vote yet, until more people have posted and I have reads on more people. But your logic for voting Node is suspect to say the least.


Meaning: I won't change my vote.......until its safe enough to do so.

On February 12 2011 07:25 aidnai wrote:
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On February 12 2011 06:09 SouthRawrea wrote:
I'm not sure if you're all aware but the point of this game is to scumhunt, find and then subsequently lynch the mafia. I highly recommend any newer players to ask questions early on before we get into deep shit because we want you to learn whilst also not having you as a liability. That being said with this vote count it's not hard to see that we're largely divided on votes right now:
Vote Count
Misder:1
EliteClubwarman:1
theflufflyone93:1
Node:1
zerroth:4
Brownbear:1
bumatlarge:1
Lunargotnodestiny:1

At this point, it's most likely that the rest of the town is going to bandwagon zerroth unless a new development arises. I ask of you zerroth to help us help you help us by trying to contribute or by simply responding. If you're unsure of what you should be saying, we can direct you to some guides in this section of the teamliquid forums and try and point you in a general direction of what you want to achieve in this game. Leave no man behind .

1) generic advice to town
Overall this feels like a forced post, aka, scum trying to figure out something town-like to post.


On February 12 2011 07:49 aidnai wrote:
directing DT checks at the people voting zerroth is really a great option I believe.


Calls out SouthRawrea for giving generic advice to the town and then does so himself. Comes off hypocritical.

On February 12 2011 07:25 aidnai wrote:
If access is not granted soon, I hope Pevergreen would consider extending day some more.


Lets lynch this scum. If you are unsure about the day one vote, then here is our best option. Most people on the Eastern Coast will be going to bed soon so its important we all agree on a target before night. Otherwise, 3 votes might be enough to get someone lynched.

VOTE FOR THE SCUM
VOTE aidnai

I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
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February 12 2011 03:44 GMT
#305
On February 12 2011 12:42 Ace wrote:
kitaman you can't be serious.


With the couple of votes on yourself, certainly you would feel better going to sleep knowing we agreed on a candidate. No? Last thing we need is to wake up and find 5 votes against yourself because of Coag's posts.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
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United States9245 Posts
February 12 2011 04:15 GMT
#318
On February 12 2011 13:13 aidnai wrote:
You know what, this really feels like an Annul vs LSB situation from, uh, what mafia was hmm.. it's slipped my mind. You remember, when Annul was godfather and tunneled LSB to his day one lynch with the expectation of not being held accountable later.


You calling me the godfather?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
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United States9245 Posts
February 12 2011 04:43 GMT
#325
On February 12 2011 13:13 aidnai wrote:
You know what, this really feels like an Annul vs LSB situation from, uh, what mafia was hmm.. it's slipped my mind. You remember, when Annul was godfather and tunneled LSB to his day one lynch with the expectation of not being held accountable later.


Look at his defense. Rather than address the situation, he refers us to a completely unrelated game by putting himself in the place of the innocent victim, while I'm the scum aggressor. Don't fall for this nonsense.

On February 12 2011 13:37 GMarshal wrote:
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On February 12 2011 13:29 Coagulation wrote:
To be honest
I dont think that anyone who has posted in the last 5 or so pages is mafia

I feel like we got a pretty good textbook example of mafia sitting back and watching town take turns fucking each other in the ass.

I can´t agree more with this, I have a strong feeling mafia is just sitting back laughing their asses off as we try to rip each others head off, for this reason I propose we stick with lynching a lurker/inactive, if mafia *is* being inactive then its likely that that will at least gallivant them into posting something which we can analyze


Do you honestly believe that if zerroth was scum, that he wouldn't even respond before being lynched? The problem with lynching an inactive is that the mafia can manipulate which inactive to lynch. Do you really think zerroth is more likely scum than aidnai?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 12 2011 05:09 GMT
#328
On February 12 2011 14:04 aidnai wrote:
So tell us Kitaman, are you scum, or is it a pro-town role that is making you behave this way?


Yes, I strong reason for wanting to kill you.
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Victory condition: You win when all anti-town forces have been eliminated.

I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
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United States9245 Posts
February 12 2011 07:19 GMT
#355
On February 12 2011 15:56 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Going to bed now, won't be back until a few hours after lynch. I don't want to hop onto the Zerroth bandwagon in case he actually shows up sometime and I won't be around to change my vote.

##Unvote: Mr. Wiggles
##Vote: kitaman27

Voting for kita, I want to see an explanation of the very quick tunneling of aidnai. It might have something to do with your red text, but honestly this could mean anything from getting a new power to forming a new faction based off a quick skim through some of pever's other games. I want to see what you have to say now that others are questioning you, not just aidnai.

So long, see you guys tomorrow.


Hmm explanation? I wanted him to die for his scummy actions. Its pretty obvious to me he should be lynched. I have no alternate win condition nor do I gain any special power from having him lynched. If that were the case, I would have been much more subtle.

p.s. Nice abstain.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 12 2011 07:27 GMT
#357
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On February 12 2011 07:25 aidnai wrote:
Gryffindor. You'll notice towns on TL.net like to throw around FOSs at the most active players.

Remember everyone, zerroth is not the only inactive at present.

People with no posts since day start:
- Siniquity
- Zerroth
- Project Psycho*
- Johnhughthom*
- ELITEcubwarman8*
- Insanious
- Beefy187*
- me_viet*
* indicates people with no posts in this thread at all, meaning they may not have access yet. If access is not granted soon, I hope Pevergreen would consider extending day some more.

Of the people without asterisks, all of them (insanious, siniquity, and zerroth) have had issues with inactivity in the past, and are all equally eligible for that sort of policy lynch. Actually I don't remember any mod actions against siniquity (I know zerroth has a modkill/ban and insanious is sitting on a warning). But I don't remember siniquity being particularly active either.
IN ANY CASE, the sheeping on zerroth is DT worthy, as Ace pointed out.

Also, I'd like to say this post is scummy.
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On February 12 2011 06:09 SouthRawrea wrote:
I'm not sure if you're all aware but the point of this game is to scumhunt, find and then subsequently lynch the mafia. I highly recommend any newer players to ask questions early on before we get into deep shit because we want you to learn whilst also not having you as a liability. That being said with this vote count it's not hard to see that we're largely divided on votes right now:
Vote Count
Misder:1
EliteClubwarman:1
theflufflyone93:1
Node:1
zerroth:4
Brownbear:1
bumatlarge:1
Lunargotnodestiny:1

At this point, it's most likely that the rest of the town is going to bandwagon zerroth unless a new development arises. I ask of you zerroth to help us help you help us by trying to contribute or by simply responding. If you're unsure of what you should be saying, we can direct you to some guides in this section of the teamliquid forums and try and point you in a general direction of what you want to achieve in this game. Leave no man behind .

1) generic advice to town (our job is scumhunting, recommendations etc)
2) posting a vote count (easy way to contribute without contributing)
3) 3rd paragraph is just weird. The point of putting votes on lurkers is to force them to talk...why are you trying to coax some contribution out of zerroth by being buddy-buddy?
Overall this feels like a forced post, aka, scum trying to figure out something town-like to post.


On February 12 2011 08:18 Coagulation wrote:
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On February 12 2011 04:08 GGQ wrote:
On February 11 2011 19:12 Coagulation wrote:
GGQ
+ Show Spoiler +
Likes to vote for people gives no reason and tells town to deal with it when they call him out on it.
this definitely sets off some alarms
FOS



Yeah, because this is the only game I've ever played. You're free to look at some of my other games if you want.

There doesn't seem to be any sort of plan or anything. Lots of people being pretty useless. I already know who I'd kill if I was maf... gonna be a boring night phase =/

unvote: Coagulation
vote: Zerroth



I dont care if you have played a million fucking games.
your acting scummy this game and that takes complete precedence over any other information that i have on you.

btw there are 4 different people i have counted in this thread asking you to justify your votes and still you havnt posted anything of value as to why you are doing what you are doing.

if your voting people based off what town is pushing as a good lynch.. thats relatively fine on day 1.
but you gotta TELL people THAT.

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There doesn't seem to be any sort of plan or anything. Lots of people being pretty useless. I already know who I'd kill if I was maf... gonna be a boring night phase =/


THIS IS A TERRIBLE POST.

there are already 3 people with FOS ON YOU and many more wondering what the fuck your THINKING. shape up and shape up fast or your ass is gonna be on the line faster than you can type "Lots of people being pretty useless."


On February 12 2011 08:20 Coagulation wrote:
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On February 12 2011 08:14 chaoser wrote:
vote: Zerroth

For no goddamn reason whatsoever


EXPECTED NOTHING LESS.


On February 12 2011 09:08 thefluffyone93 wrote:
I wonder who is roleplaying as ATPG...
Also, doesn't Romanic tend to post the tally of votes a lot?


On February 12 2011 10:09 Coagulation wrote:
Ahh 4 Post in row nice see?


On February 12 2011 11:48 Node wrote:
EBWOP: I also dislike the way bum responded to Coag's pressure.


On February 12 2011 12:41 Ace wrote:
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On February 12 2011 12:22 Coagulation wrote:
Also i would like to point out that i never gave a Scum verdict at the end of my analysis because i didnt feel it was warranted its still far too early to properly get a read on you. however i think you are the first person i have ever seen post "stop doing post by post analysis on players"


I recall last mafia game everyone pissing and moaning that i "wasnt trying hard enough" (brownbear/node can verify this) Now im getting the "your trying too hard"
Fuck my life.
Mind = blown.


I don't usually support PBPA. You're looking at someone's post trying to find scum qualities instead of reading them with an objective head. Look at the terrible justifications you have for the posts I made. You aren't scum hunting you're just posting shit.


On February 12 2011 13:06 Ace wrote:
I really didn't realize this was a game with PMs v_v


On February 12 2011 13:19 Misder wrote:
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On February 11 2011 21:42 gryffindor wrote:
I don't like your OMGUS, and I don't like your response to me, you're my top scumspect.
Misder, can you give me a reference to your best town and best scum game?
IGMEOY

Little late on this, but I'll answer as it will help scumhunting if people read previous games, and that you haven't been on lately either, so technically its not "late". I've only played one game as scum, and that was Mafia XXX. I'll warn you that that was a really bad game for me. I don't really have a "best" town game. Maybe the most recent one I played in, PYP3? idk, you can look at any of my games and you'd probably get the same read on me.


On February 12 2011 13:26 Coagulation wrote:
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On February 12 2011 13:13 aidnai wrote:
On February 12 2011 12:36 kitaman27 wrote:
On February 11 2011 13:49 aidnai wrote:
Rofl...I see Kenpachi and Pandain are not playing, so I hate to say it Coag but you're our only viable day 1 lynch.


Jumps on the day one Coag bandwagon. Yet doesn't place his vote on him until the lynch gains more steam.

On February 11 2011 13:49 aidnai wrote:
I'm most interested in getting to know the new guys pevergreen brought over, so let's get down to business:
Vote: ELITECubWarman8
for being new and having such a long fricking name.


His reason for the lynch is because he doesn't like his name? What kind of excuse is that?

On February 11 2011 14:34 aidnai wrote:
I'm tempted to browse pevergreen's games at the other site since I have a feeling he's run this exact setup before... No time for that at the moment unfortunately.


What does this post even mean?

"Hey guys, I was thinking of doing something, but I just want to let you all know that I'm not"

Thanks for the info!

On February 11 2011 15:37 aidnai wrote:
First off, don't edit. It's a cardinal sin, or perhaps a mortal sin (anyone know which is worse?). Second, before you start defending Coag, I'd go look at some of his prior games. His play style is hard to read at best, and harmful to town at worst...


Again, pushes the Coag bandwagon based on the fact that he is a tough player to read. While we are at it, why not lynch Ace too?

On February 11 2011 17:44 aidnai wrote:
Node is correct about Coag by the way, whether or not either of them is scum. Coag has done nothing unusual for his own 'meta' so far this game.


In other words: Leave coag alone! He has done nothing wrong this game. Why are people pushing for his lynch?

On February 11 2011 17:44 aidnai wrote:
FOS on gryffindor. I won't change my vote yet, until more people have posted and I have reads on more people. But your logic for voting Node is suspect to say the least.


Meaning: I won't change my vote.......until its safe enough to do so.

On February 12 2011 07:25 aidnai wrote:
On February 12 2011 06:09 SouthRawrea wrote:
I'm not sure if you're all aware but the point of this game is to scumhunt, find and then subsequently lynch the mafia. I highly recommend any newer players to ask questions early on before we get into deep shit because we want you to learn whilst also not having you as a liability. That being said with this vote count it's not hard to see that we're largely divided on votes right now:
Vote Count
Misder:1
EliteClubwarman:1
theflufflyone93:1
Node:1
zerroth:4
Brownbear:1
bumatlarge:1
Lunargotnodestiny:1

At this point, it's most likely that the rest of the town is going to bandwagon zerroth unless a new development arises. I ask of you zerroth to help us help you help us by trying to contribute or by simply responding. If you're unsure of what you should be saying, we can direct you to some guides in this section of the teamliquid forums and try and point you in a general direction of what you want to achieve in this game. Leave no man behind .

1) generic advice to town
Overall this feels like a forced post, aka, scum trying to figure out something town-like to post.


On February 12 2011 07:49 aidnai wrote:
directing DT checks at the people voting zerroth is really a great option I believe.


Calls out SouthRawrea for giving generic advice to the town and then does so himself. Comes off hypocritical.

On February 12 2011 07:25 aidnai wrote:
If access is not granted soon, I hope Pevergreen would consider extending day some more.


Lets lynch this scum. If you are unsure about the day one vote, then here is our best option. Most people on the Eastern Coast will be going to bed soon so its important we all agree on a target before night. Otherwise, 3 votes might be enough to get someone lynched.

VOTE FOR THE SCUM
VOTE aidnai



This is rich Kita, really rich...
Let's summarize your case, if that's possible.
1) Jumps on the lynch Coag day 1 bandwagon with an obvious joke post that is followed by me later saying 'Coag is hard to read, don't waste your time defending him' and 'Coag is within his normal meta'.
2) gives generic town advice actually saying DT's should check the zerroth vote list is pretty specific, but unfortunately I can't take credit for the idea :/
3) FoSing and pressuring people is a bad thing? I should be vote hopping instead? lol...

You know what, this really feels like an Annul vs LSB situation from, uh, what mafia was hmm.. it's slipped my mind. You remember, when Annul was godfather and tunneled LSB to his day one lynch with the expectation of not being held accountable later.



i am also extremely perplexed how he had come to the conclusion that you are a good lynch target from his analysis

and to make matters even more intriguing he is going to what i would consider extreme lengths in PM land to see your ass hang tonight.

cant say im too inclined to step my ass in the line of fire to save you from his apparently out of nowhere vendetta considering you previously seemed to find it logical to policy lynch me day one.

but i doubt your mafia.. at least i doubt theres enough substantial evidence to justify lynching you.



On February 12 2011 13:37 Misder wrote:
Well, there really hasn't been much pressure in terms of voting. The inactives are still winning the vote count by a decent amount. I like pressure though.

And as such,
Unvote Ace
Vote Aidnai

Yay for bandwagoning?

How is PM land going for everyone btw? I'm lonely.


On February 12 2011 13:40 Coagulation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2011 13:37 Misder wrote:


How is PM land going for everyone btw? I'm lonely.


PM Kita
he needs a friend.


On February 12 2011 15:43 gryffindor wrote:
I really disliked Believer's vote a page ago, with absolutely no content with it whatsoever. I also didn't like seeing someone having a post edited earlier, and I was just informed that it was him in PM. I don't want to just go with the mold. I don't want to bandwagon. I want to lynch scum.

Vote: Believer


On February 12 2011 16:22 gryffindor wrote:
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On February 12 2011 16:02 Node wrote:
Yeah, this game is ridiculously lenient activity-wise. Usually I'm not a huge supporter of lynching inactives, but since they're basically never going to die off on their own we're going to have to use the lynch to either scare them out or kill them. Otherwise it'll be far, far too easy for mafia to hide among them.

I actually agree with this in terms of scaring them out. Pressuring inactives through bandwagons is a valid strategy. If they aren't posting, though, and you notice it, you could ask the mod to PM them. If they respond to his prod, and don't post, then that is generally scummy.

However, sometimes people are simply just inactive. It is not always the best to just gun for the easy targets; it is not efficient to always look low. Ace can be scum, just the same as someone who is lurking, so it is proper to analyze everyone somehow.

I like that you are kind of doing this, though you could actually do something about it, as opposed to complaining.





I smell a conspiracy...
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 12 2011 07:32 GMT
#360
On February 12 2011 16:30 Coagulation wrote:
kita apparently has to quote 50 random posts that have nothing in common and then write a line that has nothing to do with anything.


How about you just learn your lesson and it wouldn't be necessary?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 12 2011 07:53 GMT
#368
On February 12 2011 16:51 gryffindor wrote:
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On February 12 2011 16:36 Node wrote:
My vote is on Insanious. What more would you like from me?

I'd like to hear your thoughts on possible scumteam pairings. Who do you feel Insanious is scum with? He doesn't feel that scummy to me. Why do you suspect him?


He doesn't feel that scummy to you? Did you manage to get a read off his one post?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 12 2011 07:55 GMT
#370
On February 12 2011 16:54 aidnai wrote:
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On February 12 2011 12:41 thefluffyone93 wrote:
OK.
Unvote; Vote: aidnai


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On February 12 2011 13:37 Misder wrote:
Well, there really hasn't been much pressure in terms of voting. The inactives are still winning the vote count by a decent amount. I like pressure though.

And as such,
Unvote Ace
Vote Aidnai

Yay for bandwagoning?

How is PM land going for everyone btw? I'm lonely.

Now that Kitaman has proven his insanity, you two mind taking your votes off me?


He asked nicely. That must mean he's town.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
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