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orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
December 24 2010 10:27 GMT
#73
//in.
초대 갓, 이영호 | First God, Lee Young Ho
orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
December 27 2010 07:02 GMT
#237
Oh wow. This started fast.

I hardly think the sudden bandwagon against Pandain less than an hour after the game started was appropriate.
초대 갓, 이영호 | First God, Lee Young Ho
orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
December 28 2010 03:53 GMT
#395
On December 28 2010 11:42 LSB wrote:
Let's refocus on inactives.

There are two lurkers/inactives that have voted so far.

6. TheMango- I consider him a lurker as he hasn't offered insight on anything.
30. ~OpZ~- Hasn't done much in thread. He has PMed me, but I don't know if he is actually active.

If why/Brocket/GeorgeClooney gets around to voting/posting, we could switch the lynch. But currently we should push to lynch the people who actually aren't in danger of being modkilled.

People probably with say that I have a conflict of interest with TheMango since he voted for me. So I'm find with voting off ~OpZ~

Show nested quote +
On December 28 2010 11:41 LSB wrote:
##unvote
##vote ~OpZ~




I hardly feel that focusing on inactives, especially on Day 1, is a good idea at this point. I highly doubt mafia will be inactive on day 1, exactly to deflect the kind of suspicions you are raising. It's much more likely, probability wise, for there to be mafia among the people who already posted, compared to the inactives. hell, I know I'd be more inclined to post and make time during the holidays if I was red 0.0


I'm getting really suspicious of the people who keep trying to refocus the town on lynching inactives instead of HUNTING REDS. i.e. why, LSB, ilovejonn. I'm especially looking at LSB right now, given his past track record and his current behavioral patterns.
초대 갓, 이영호 | First God, Lee Young Ho
orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
December 29 2010 03:32 GMT
#629
Oh.

I failed terribly. Sorry LSB.
초대 갓, 이영호 | First God, Lee Young Ho
orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
December 31 2010 05:41 GMT
#847
On December 31 2010 12:45 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
roar

......? This contributes to the thread?
초대 갓, 이영호 | First God, Lee Young Ho
orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
December 31 2010 05:42 GMT
#849
And don't make the mistake of... I think it was XXXIV or something like that, where town only used one. With a game where mafia has this many KP, town needs to use the double lynch - The longer we wait the larger the breath of the reds will be.

We need the double lynch.
초대 갓, 이영호 | First God, Lee Young Ho
orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
December 31 2010 20:40 GMT
#875
On January 01 2011 00:56 Jackal58 wrote:
Orgolove and annul - What possible purpose does a double lynch serve at this juncture?
I can understand why red would want a double lynch on day two but it makes no sense for town to push for a double lynch today.


... serious?


On December 31 2010 06:04 LunarDestiny wrote:
The double lynch is for day3. It will be helpful when dt a checked a mafia and we have an extra lynch to be used for another suspects.

We have 2 double lynch total in the game. As the game continues, we will get more information on who to lynch. But we are too many losing experience players too soon. Mafia will have an easier time to defer lynch when we have an inactive, indecisive town.
On December 31 2010 14:42 orgolove wrote:
And don't make the mistake of... I think it was XXXIV or something like that, where town only used one. With a game where mafia has this many KP, town needs to use the double lynch - The longer we wait the larger the breath of the reds will be.

We need the double lynch.
초대 갓, 이영호 | First God, Lee Young Ho
orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
January 01 2011 00:23 GMT
#888
On January 01 2011 06:40 Pandain wrote:
orgolove-scum
+ Show Spoiler +
See http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=179009&currentpage=40#799. NOw, orgolove has NEVER been this inactive, and is always super spammy/agressive. Even if its the holidays he should've at least by now made at least one good post. He's doing what I did in kingmaker mafia, just total lurker.


Really now. I have obligations other than lurking in an online forum game thread during the first day of the year, you see. Do note that I've pointed out obvious scum tells in a way that did not drown out my point in a tsunami of spammy posts like what you've done in this thread.
초대 갓, 이영호 | First God, Lee Young Ho
orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
January 01 2011 00:32 GMT
#890
On January 01 2011 09:25 Pandain wrote:
Also, the holidays have been going on for a while, but you haven't been able to make one good post yet.


O rly?



On December 31 2010 14:42 orgolove wrote:
And don't make the mistake of... I think it was XXXIV or something like that, where town only used one. With a game where mafia has this many KP, town needs to use the double lynch - The longer we wait the larger the breath of the reds will be.

We need the double lynch.

vs
On December 30 2010 02:15 Pandain wrote:
For the love of God I don't mean to only make a one liner but its Pandain, not Pandrain,Paindrain, or Paindan.
On December 29 2010 14:17 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2010 13:43 Jackal58 wrote:
On December 29 2010 13:18 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
lol i bet coag is playing on jackals account either that or they have nearly identical diction

Coagulation has been no fucking help at all.
You wanna know why we have nearly identical diction? I'll tell ya why.
But sexual favors are required to unlock the secret.
I'm drunk. I'm going to bed.


LOL wtf

Anyway i just played an hour long game O.O


Spam spam spam spam


All you've done this game is a) lead the bandwagon against LSB, directly causing the death of a veteran, and then diverting the town's attention to getting perceived "inactives" instead of actual scumhunting - a classic red tactic.


Time and again I point this out - scum hunting will do you far more good than looking at activity frequency patterns. After all, in games like these reds will have more invested in the game, and thus will be more likely to be active through a busy holiday season.
초대 갓, 이영호 | First God, Lee Young Ho
orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
January 01 2011 04:04 GMT
#895
On January 01 2011 10:25 Pandain wrote:
Also everyone should get on IRC ##bamboo palace so I can talk to people faster -.-


Wow.

Opening an IRC channel in the main thread free for all the reds to view - really a great idea lol...
초대 갓, 이영호 | First God, Lee Young Ho
orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
January 01 2011 04:37 GMT
#897
On January 01 2011 13:20 DarthThienAn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2011 13:04 orgolove wrote:
On January 01 2011 10:25 Pandain wrote:
Also everyone should get on IRC ##bamboo palace so I can talk to people faster -.-


Wow.

Opening an IRC channel in the main thread free for all the reds to view - really a great idea lol...

? You serious? It's exactly the same as the main thread, except the "posts" will be shorter, and more frequent. Why are you against discussion?

? You Serious? Exactly the same, huh. With confirmed username, 100% uneditable log, and no chance a red can sneak in without town's notice.

Huh. I see.

I wonder then why town circles go through the trouble of keeping an IP log with each ID upon logging on. Hmmm...
초대 갓, 이영호 | First God, Lee Young Ho
orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
January 01 2011 06:26 GMT
#901
Wait wait. Are you two seriously arguing that having a public IRC is a good idea? In an IRC, absolutely anyone can take whichever name they may please, and spew nonsense that they won't be ever responsible for thanks to the anonymity. A red can easily take the name of one of the players they know is a townie, and act like an idiot to try to influence any real townies present.

There's a reason why every mafia host strongly discouraged any player from taking a public IRC seriously whenever it popped up:
On October 13 2010 12:54 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
As a rule going forward: There is to be NO discussion of that irc channel in this thread. It is far too easy to pretend to be someone else and make a fake roleclaim. If you're going to roleclaim or make any serious attempt at discussion, do it in this thread. Because you can not confirm you are who you say you are in a general IRC I seriously recommend you take nothing said in there seriously. It's a nice place to spam, mess about, and NOTHING else.

Relevant game discussion belongs in the game thread. Anyone who pretends to be me in the IRC chat will be modkilled and I will suggest you for a permanent ban from all TL mafia games. That includes smurfing under my name. There will be no exceptions to this rule.

I'm honestly surprised flamewheel is letting this go btw. Amazed.
초대 갓, 이영호 | First God, Lee Young Ho
orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
January 01 2011 11:05 GMT
#905
I think you misunderstood me. My point was, DrH allowed the IRC room to continue, but explicitly prohibited any discussion about things said in the IRC within the main mafia thread, recognizing that absolutely nothing can be taken for truth while in any public IRC. I was hoping that flamewheel would do the same, but I guess it's a mod preference. My only remaining concern is, if you allow discussion of anything in the IRC to be shared in the main thread, the IRC chatlog can be so easily falsified and the game will degenerate into whether we can/cannot trust whatever IRC discussion is going on.

Oh btw, re: host impersonation, youngminii (a red) used the DoctorHelvetica chat handle within the public IRC channel that was setup by the townies in Haunted Mafia.
초대 갓, 이영호 | First God, Lee Young Ho
orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
January 01 2011 23:41 GMT
#938
It's kinda amazing that you guys are so sure of my alignment, when not a single one of your assumed scum buddies of mine has risen up to my defense since the suspicion placed on me.

Sheesh guys. Just because I haven't been active as much as I was before, does that suddenly bring me towards being a red? How many lynches do you have to waste before the town stops sheeping along with Pandain's analysis, the first day of which already caused us to lose one blue?

Just about the only "argument" pandain gave forth is that I haven't been as active this game. What, a man can't spend some time outside of an internet forum game thread during the new years? lol...

On January 02 2011 03:49 d3_crescentia wrote:
I would add that Orgolove hasn't really done much besides squirm or angrily retaliate when pressured


in "all my 13 posts" more than half was pointing out obvious scum tells and the idiocy of joining and using the IRC channel. I think that's been much more beneficial than Pandain's superficial analysis that lost us one blue, and is in danger of losing another right now.


Sigh.

If my death is what it takes for the town to stop uselessly focusing on inactives, and start to actually scumhunt - I already see RoL and annul as top targets - then I'll gladly take it. Better me than a more important blue. Once I flip, I strongly encourage you to take a look at those two. And Pandain as well - this would be the second time in a row of wasting the town's lynch. Wonder how much longer it'll take the town to realize that we need to stop listening to his spam and think for ourselves.
초대 갓, 이영호 | First God, Lee Young Ho
orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
January 02 2011 02:06 GMT
#955
Again, as the time draws near, I can't help but notice that, just as in my case, none has stood up for annul's defense. I would think the reds would try to cover for him at least a little bit....
초대 갓, 이영호 | First God, Lee Young Ho
orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
January 02 2011 18:44 GMT
#1011
Not sure how much it's worth, but before suspicions against Annul even surfaced, I got this PM from Mr. Zergling:

-----------------------------------------
Original Message From Mr.Zergling:
Would you care to respond to GGQ's Analysis of you?



I would think a real red wouldn't have cared enough about getting a non-red lynched so much that he would personally PM me to ask me to defend myself. I doubt he's red...
초대 갓, 이영호 | First God, Lee Young Ho
orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
January 03 2011 00:40 GMT
#1024
Though I... absolutely hate the way pandain plays, I doubt he's red based on how he's been playing. After looking at the voting patterns, I see Mr.Z as one of our clear targets, given all the reasons stated by other posters.


I'm also highly suspicious of Meapak. He switched his votes away from annul after initially voting for him as soon as the vote total began to seem extremely close. Also:

-----------------------------------------
Original Message From Meapak_Ziphh:
Hey did you just claim a blue role?


lol.
초대 갓, 이영호 | First God, Lee Young Ho
orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
January 03 2011 01:41 GMT
#1025
And yes - I apologize for posing PMs - but I think rolefishing PM is an important piece of evidence when scumhunting.
초대 갓, 이영호 | First God, Lee Young Ho
orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
January 03 2011 04:26 GMT
#1043
Can we get a confirmation that RoL was protected?
초대 갓, 이영호 | First God, Lee Young Ho
orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
January 03 2011 04:56 GMT
#1045
Hm. It's just, the only likely possibility, apart from the remote sense of two vigilantes acting, one of which targeted RoL, is that medics did not protect RoL. Possibly because of the noise caused by Barundar during the night shame.

Then the hit sequence could've been:
2 hits from reds - to RoL
1 hit from a vigilante, possibly ~OpZ~ - to Node

The only concern then, regarding the vig hit, is that the hit on Node follows mafia's patterns on hitting experienced players. is ~OpZ~ really town aligned? Did he actually hit RoL (unlike what he claimed, "hitting an inactive"), and the mafia hit both RoL and Node?

~OpZ~, can you explain who you hit?
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