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Pigsquirrel
Profile Joined August 2009
United States615 Posts
December 28 2010 05:52 GMT
#79
Is it hard for a first-time forum mafia player to play PYP?
/in
Pigsquirrel
Profile Joined August 2009
United States615 Posts
January 05 2011 03:57 GMT
#174
Do the empty spots on the sign-up list mean that those will be filled with replacements from the Queue?
Pigsquirrel
Profile Joined August 2009
United States615 Posts
January 06 2011 20:01 GMT
#184
Giving the mafia a role list is definately NOT good.
IMO, the only thing town should try to do is deny scum the most dangerous roles. Anything more risks a major major backfire by a well placed scum pick.
Pigsquirrel
Profile Joined August 2009
United States615 Posts
January 07 2011 04:04 GMT
#220
/confirm
Pigsquirrel
Profile Joined August 2009
United States615 Posts
January 07 2011 13:19 GMT
#232
The major problem with LSB's plan is that the Mafia can conform then just snipe the investigative roles.
If they are lucky and land on an extra KP, then it's GG for town.
Pigsquirrel
Profile Joined August 2009
United States615 Posts
January 07 2011 14:36 GMT
#235
On January 07 2011 22:52 deconduo wrote:
There's no point following LSB's plan if more than a couple of people don't intend to. I personally don't think its that terrible, but it relies on every single townie picking as they are supposed to. Its pretty obvious that won't happen now.

That's the biggest problem. Half a dozen people don't follow the plan, all of a sudden we have half a dozen false leads, and the scum has a role list.
Pigsquirrel
Profile Joined August 2009
United States615 Posts
January 07 2011 18:41 GMT
#245
I think we should just focus on denying scum the KP roles. Simply take the CPR and comp vigi within the first few picks, scum is left with only 1 kp, we win.
Pigsquirrel
Profile Joined August 2009
United States615 Posts
January 07 2011 19:00 GMT
#250
On January 08 2011 03:43 LSB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2011 03:41 Pigsquirrel wrote:
I think we should just focus on denying scum the KP roles. Simply take the CPR and comp vigi within the first few picks, scum is left with only 1 kp, we win.

What about the investigative roles? Should we give the scum those?

Because giving scum role cop is better than giving them a role list?
Pigsquirrel
Profile Joined August 2009
United States615 Posts
January 07 2011 19:29 GMT
#253
On January 08 2011 04:05 Eiii wrote:
I'd love to see a better plan than LSB's put together, but if one doesn't pop up before the draft order comes out then I'm just going to go along with LSB's. I can't imagine that just randomly picking roles without any significant oversight is going to be better than keeping tabs on everyone, since there are a few incredibly strong roles that mafia could pick up.

I think I'm going to have to agree with Eiii on this one. I don't like the idea of giving out a role list, but it seems to be the only way to deny scum roles and protect ours.
Pigsquirrel
Profile Joined August 2009
United States615 Posts
January 07 2011 20:15 GMT
#255
You don't have a plan either. We currently have two options: LSB's plan, or chaos.
Unless we get an option 3, we are probably going to have chaos.
Pigsquirrel
Profile Joined August 2009
United States615 Posts
January 08 2011 02:34 GMT
#277
Can we get a list of people who haven't confirmed yet? Or at least an ETA for when we will get started with draft number picking? I feel like this plan discussion could go on for a few weeks and still be where it is now...

But I am worried about people not sticking to plan. We might have 3-5 townies go against the plan due to stupidity/rage. That's 3-5 places for scum to hide...
Pigsquirrel
Profile Joined August 2009
United States615 Posts
January 09 2011 02:07 GMT
#292
Hope I got my number in in time, was busy all day
Glad to see that some progress is being made rather than just arguing/flaming over plans.
Pigsquirrel
Profile Joined August 2009
United States615 Posts
January 09 2011 23:16 GMT
#383
Sorry, been very busy this weekend.
Anyway, i did indeed pick 5-1
Pigsquirrel
Profile Joined August 2009
United States615 Posts
January 09 2011 23:23 GMT
#385
Posting before reading whole thread FTL:
Have we started sending in our draft picks? I don't see a post from ACE telling us to, but it sounds like some people may have sent their role picks in already?
Pigsquirrel
Profile Joined August 2009
United States615 Posts
January 10 2011 16:13 GMT
#432
Will we know how people died at night, for example from gunshot or defibrillator? Or is that what Ace meant by no clues? Because if we do get to know stuff like that it will basically nullify CPR doc as he absolutely will not be able to use his power without getting lynched the next day.

Also, FoS on decon until ace confirms that he got wrong role/other mistake.
Pigsquirrel
Profile Joined August 2009
United States615 Posts
January 11 2011 03:53 GMT
#488
I'm getting a bit suspicious of LSB. As soon as alignment PMs came out, he cut all compromises and went back to a complete role list, which, even with two docs, gives scum a very useful tool.

On January 11 2011 12:14 LSB wrote:
I want to warn people that it is incredibly easy to misread Aidnai as scum. I used him in Harry Potter to divert the lynch.


He's defending Aidnai, which alone is not very scummy, but the fact that he's defending a borderline inactive by basically saying "He looks scummy but I swear he isn't!"


This doesn't sound like analysis Bum. It sounds like the good old "we can get information from this lynch! yay!"

And what's wrong with offing an inactive for information? Unless of course you are scumbuddies / LSB picked traitor...

On January 11 2011 10:01 aidnai wrote:
I haven't even cared enough to read all the posts in here.


Seriously? Why defend somebody who says how little they care about the game unless you have ulterior motives.

to sum op: Suspicious of LSB, Voting for Aidnai
##Aidnai
Pigsquirrel
Profile Joined August 2009
United States615 Posts
January 11 2011 04:03 GMT
#494
On January 11 2011 12:56 LSB wrote:
Good point.

I'm cool with a Day 1 Pardon plan then if no good target shows up.


Adding to above, LSB agrees right away with a plan that, according to the post directly above him, "then pardoning the day one lynch gives the mafia the role of their choice"

It's a real gamble to pardon day 1 lynch unless we know whether or not CC is scum, or even who the copy cat is. If the CC did not pick who he was supposed to and it was taken by scum later in the draft, we are screwed if the mafia gets a hidden bonus KP.

I think we need to lynch a useless (to the mafia) role on day 1 to eliminate the risk of scum getting a copy of a dangerous role.
Pigsquirrel
Profile Joined August 2009
United States615 Posts
January 11 2011 04:13 GMT
#499
On January 11 2011 13:10 Beneather wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2011 13:03 Pigsquirrel wrote:
On January 11 2011 12:56 LSB wrote:
Good point.

I'm cool with a Day 1 Pardon plan then if no good target shows up.


Adding to above, LSB agrees right away with a plan that, according to the post directly above him, "then pardoning the day one lynch gives the mafia the role of their choice"

It's a real gamble to pardon day 1 lynch unless we know whether or not CC is scum, or even who the copy cat is. If the CC did not pick who he was supposed to and it was taken by scum later in the draft, we are screwed if the mafia gets a hidden bonus KP.

I think we need to lynch a useless (to the mafia) role on day 1 to eliminate the risk of scum getting a copy of a dangerous role.


How is it a gamble to pardon? Pardoning is a scum role so if we force a pardon then they get to choose who to kill. We'll also know that the person who got pardoned is mafia and we can just use CPR Doc. on him. Also Pardoner can only use once so we don't have to worry about anymore of those.

I also suggest at night that the doctors should protect the CPR Doc. On the first night so that CC doesn't get CPR Doc if he is mafia.


No. I'm saying that pardoning day 1 lynch is a gamble because if CC is scum, mafia gets a free role of their choice. What do we get from pardoning day 1? Using up a scummy role's power. What's the risk: Potentially giving scum a free copy of whatever role they want. Doesn't seem worth it to me, especially considering that we can just pardon day 2 and get all the benefit without giving scum a free role.
Pigsquirrel
Profile Joined August 2009
United States615 Posts
January 11 2011 04:15 GMT
#500
Adding: To justify my suspicion of LSB:
He supports and incredibly high risk plan right away, and has since before the game has even started.
Pigsquirrel
Profile Joined August 2009
United States615 Posts
January 11 2011 19:50 GMT
#571
##unvote Aidnai
##LayOffRage

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