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Meapak_Ziphh

United States6788 Posts

December 22 2010 06:26 GMT

#42

/in as a noob/junior whatever :D

Meapak_Ziphh

United States6788 Posts

January 04 2011 18:31 GMT

#162

Ok just gave my goodbye post in the other game...

Meapak_Ziphh

United States6788 Posts

January 04 2011 23:12 GMT

#178

Vote team 9
Im on my phone so I can't qoute but theres a post by orgolove which is making me do this.

Meapak_Ziphh

United States6788 Posts

January 04 2011 23:15 GMT

#179

##Vote Team 9
sorry forgot formatting

Meapak_Ziphh

United States6788 Posts

January 05 2011 00:33 GMT

#190

Yes it was mostly to dodge a modkill but I wanted to pick someone who had said something I didn't agree with. It's the last line of orgolove's post I don't like

I'm not going to post any votes until there's something more concret to go on.

This is either a really lame excuse for lurking or a mafia trying to kill discussion. There really hasen't been much to vote on but this quote stuck out to me as the scummiest thing said so far.

Meapak_Ziphh

United States6788 Posts

January 06 2011 16:59 GMT

#293

Ok So I was going to wait for Ace to PM me back but he hasn't and I'm about to go afk for the day (god damn school this'll probably be my last mafia game for a while).

Ok I actually agreee that subversion/incog could be lying mafia. Let's look at some posts.

On January 04 2011 16:25 Subversion wrote:

Show nested quote +

On January 04 2011 10:46 Nemesis wrote:
Ok I just got here. Just to share my ideas with the current plans.

On January 04 2011 00:51 deconduo wrote:
Would a good idea be to work off the assumption we are in setup #2? Basically we assume that there are no blues, and if we do have a DT or medic its a bonus. That way we focus more on scumhunting rather than relying on a DT/medic to form a circle that might not be there at all.

I wouldn't make any assumptions as to what setup we are going with. We should consider all the possible setups. But yes, we should focus more on scumhunting than relying on forming circles based on blue roles.

On January 04 2011 00:37 LSB wrote:
Well... Activity isn't going to magically create itself. So...

All right, in many games there was an uneventful first day. Lets not make this one of those games.

A few things to talk about:

Should we lynch an inactive day one? Assuming of course, there is no good alternative
Plans for the roles

Inactives:
A big problem in every mafia game is inactivity. I don't want another drag_ being able to squeak by with barely any posts. We should immediately show it is not okay to be inactive.

Inactive players hurt the town as they waste lynches down the road as the town will need to try to separate the mafia from the inactives.

We should therefore push to lynch an inactive day one. This will force the assassins to discuss and not be able to turtle, increasing the chance they will slip up.
The key is that we have to make sure the town knows it is not okay to just simply sit back and not do anything. This way, hopefully everyone will be active and we won't need to lynch an inactive.

Plan
Firstly. DO NOT CLAIM
DO NOT CLAIM

Good now that we got that out of the way, some other ideas.

Generic Blue Activity plan
One plan that would work is to use the blue roles to promote activity in the town.
The DTs should check the inactive people and the lurkers, as it is incredibly difficult if not impossible to tell the difference between a bored townie and a lurking mafia.
The Medics should protect active players, this way the mafia won't be able to take out the people who are contributing the most to town, so people won't be scared of trying to put forth their opinions.

Although, I myself do not like inactives, our goal is to lynch mafia. So unless we can't come up with any good target to lynch by the end of the day, then I don't advocate the lynching of inactives, but lynching them might be a good idea if we have nothing else to go on.

As for dts checking inactive people(if we do indeed have dts), I think that might be a lot better plan than lynching inactives as we would be wasting town's greatest weapon. Lynching inactives is basically the same as RNG, a random chance of lynching scum. The only good thing is it prevents inactivity and encourages acitivity.

i dont really see what the point is of DTs checking inactives if its publicly announced. Surely then mafia will just make sure they're not inactive to avoid being detected?

What is important about this qoute is the "Let's not check lurkers line" why is this important? Because Incog hasn't really posted at all. In fact this team has the least posts in the thread if I added right. But why should subversion be worried about dt checks if he has nothing to hide.

He then jumps on the bandwagon BC/Beneather bandwagon at a nice safe point when several others had already done so and disowns his previous comment in one fell swoop.

On January 05 2011 09:44 Subversion wrote:
Oh okay, soz, that actually makes a lot of sense.

Ugh this Day 1 vote is really just.. meh. Really not much to go on. For now I'm going with:

##Vote Beneather/BC

My main reasoning here is that Beneather seems reluctant to say anything without BC being here to give him advice. Seems like a scummy junior would be scared of exposing himself without a senior to run his posts by. Also, BC yet to make an appearance.

That's pretty much the whole post, except I also just said thanks to LSB for clarifying the check inactives plan, and why its good.

So he doesn't think the day one lynch is a good one but he votes for the person who is currently ahead in the votes? If he didn't like it then he should have offered a better candidate or at least not gone with the status quo. Also notice that he wilts as soon as LSB applied the tinniest amount of pressure (all LSB did was explain why threarening to lynch inactives is good) but subversion feels compelled to appologise, that's a pretty common scum tell right there.

No townie should be afraid of a dt check yet subversion opposes dt checking inactives when he is one. Also in such a small game it would probably be safer for the mafia to lurk. He claims to not like the day one vote but then goes and votes for the person currently ahead showing no interest in actually helping the town. Further more his whole I've been roleblocked /leave thread act set off alarm bells in my head and I agree with what KJ has been saying.

I'm going to vote when I get home in about 12 hours to give subversion a chance to refute what I've said but if nothing changes my vote will be on this team.

Meapak_Ziphh

United States6788 Posts

January 07 2011 17:34 GMT

#311

Hello everyone. I still think that subversion is scummy however as someone pointed out it's almost lylo and it would really suck to lynch a blue at this point. BUT that being said his scummyieness outweighs his possible blueness in my eyes. The fact that he magically swooped in and posted when I called him out just feels red.

BUT I will vote for Orgo right now and see if we can spike some activity. Also I never found his "reasons" for voting you guys when he said "My reasons have already been posted" which looks rather bad on his part. If orgo is genuinely inactive and doesn't appear or if no one else is pushed forward as a lynch target I might unvote and try and provoke someone else but for now I'll

##Vote Orgolove/Flamewheel

Meapak_Ziphh

United States6788 Posts

January 08 2011 00:26 GMT

#327

Yeah Ace and I are switching. I've decided to go back to my original analysis since voting orgolove hasn't really provoked any noticable response from him or his partner. I'm still undecided on KJ/Aidnai but an orgolove or a subversion lynch will be about the same in value in determining KJ/Aidnai's towness because both were called out by them.

##Unvote Orgolove/Flamewheel
##Vote Subversion/Incognito

Meapak_Ziphh

United States6788 Posts

January 08 2011 01:47 GMT

#329

Ace is actually a little behind the times, my "lead" was pretty much what I posted in the thread that most people ignored. I will go back to Orgo. I thought there was more time for the day but at this point my argument isn't going to catch and I don't want to risk someone I don't consider scummy being lynched. They'd better be red Aidnai.

##Unvote
##Vote orgolove/flamewheel

Meapak_Ziphh

United States6788 Posts

January 08 2011 04:16 GMT

#337

On January 08 2011 13:04 aidnai wrote:
FML

Ya'll in big trouble now boiiiiiii. It's lylo tomorrow (baring a medic save) so we had better make some headway tonight. I'm still all for lynching Subversion, even more so now.

Meapak_Ziphh

United States6788 Posts

January 08 2011 17:38 GMT

#340

Orgolove you walked in here and said "I have more important things in life than to play stupid internet games so don't vote for me I've made my case" when you really hadn't. I wouldn't blame this lynch on the town I'd blame it on a player who gave up. While it may be poor form to talk to you when you can't respond, you did come in here and call the town inept because you got lynched so I feel compelled to point out that it really wasn't the towns fault.

Meapak_Ziphh

United States6788 Posts

January 09 2011 07:35 GMT

#347

Cue jeopardy music

Meapak_Ziphh

United States6788 Posts

January 10 2011 04:59 GMT

#404

##Vote Subversion

Aidnai was the person behind the orgo lynch, a lynch which magically appeared right as I fos'd subversion. If you are town vote subversion now, don't let Aidnai pull wool over your eyes.

Meapak_Ziphh

United States6788 Posts

January 10 2011 05:00 GMT

#405

Oh and Aidnai what happened to letting someone else lead the town?

Meapak_Ziphh

United States6788 Posts

January 10 2011 05:18 GMT

#406

Hey Aidnai why are you so sure the gm/mango are town? I'm not saying they're scum in fact I think they're town because of the emphasis you place on them. Only mafia have absolute knowledge of alignment so they can easily call out someone as "probably town" in order to gain that persons trust. Gm/mango you guys need to Unvote now and stop sheeping for Aidnai. Take a good long look at the thread then come back and vote. You'll find Aidnai actualy stopped us from lynching scum by drawing attention away from subversion onto orgo. I voted for orgo at aidnai's behest but look at his reaction when I switched my vote, he wanted to make sure attention stayed off his scum buddy. Personally I won't be suprised if subversion doesnt show up, he's trying to avoid attention. Read the thread well mango/gm and choose your vote carefully.

Meapak_Ziphh

United States6788 Posts

January 10 2011 05:41 GMT

#408

I think they're town because you think they're town, I think you're trying to use them to get your final lynch, you're trying to make them trust you by saying they're town. What I want them to do is reread the thread and decide if they really trust you.

I am town

There I said it. You already knew that but this was for the benefit of everyone else. And if you doubt me then reread the thread. I encourage everyone to reread the thread before making their final decision.

Meapak_Ziphh

United States6788 Posts

January 10 2011 06:07 GMT

#410

Glad to hear we've all calmed down a little. Gm/mango unvote now so we're not lynching anyone yet. I don't like you guys haveing hammer power but even worse would be a misslynch. I too am going to bed and I encourage everyone to take a step back and go over everything again. This is lylo, we absolutely cannot screw this up.

Meapak_Ziphh

United States6788 Posts

January 10 2011 22:21 GMT

#411

Bump
Why aren't people discusing? gm/mango where are you? We need to hear other voices other than Aidnai and myself. I want to understand why everyone is doing what they're doing. Nemisis and I are understandable, I've been the major push on subervsion and Nemisis checked subversion as red. Aidnai is understandable as well but for the wrong reasons

I firmly believe Aidnai is wrong about subversion. I'm still on the fence about Aidnai being red or not, as wrong as I think he is, he has been one of the more vocal players and since he's said he's going to take another look at gm/mango I'm willing to give him the benifit of the doubt. However we need to hear from everyone else. This is our most important day and the town is silent

Meapak_Ziphh

United States6788 Posts

January 11 2011 02:10 GMT

#430

Aidnai you need to switch your vote. Mango is dragging his feet and I'm almost certain now that the scum team is gm/mango and subversion. Notice how he's active right when things appear to be about to swing out of his favor but he hasn't really added anything except for an "analysis" of voting patterns which falls under "contributing without contributing" he's promising a big analysis but look at his posts, he's probably going to delay it right until the end. You need to switch now Aidnai, don't let mango run railroad this one through.

Meapak_Ziphh

United States6788 Posts

January 11 2011 02:16 GMT

#431

oh and lol mango, by "active in the irc channel" you mean that I asked if I could lurk even though I was dead and then proceded to leave my computer. Basing you suspicions off of inactivity is laughable at best and scummy at worst. I'm one of the only people who did a decent analysis so far and you don't even consider that. That also reminds me, read my analysis and subversions sibsequent "response" subversion barely explains his actions. Aidnai I hope you read this in time because you're the only hope the town's got since mango is acting so scummy.

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