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TL Mafia XXXIV: Pokemafia

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Node
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States2159 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-07 04:15:25
December 07 2010 04:14 GMT
#26
never mind, apparently i fail at reading more than one page
whole lies with a half smile
Node
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States2159 Posts
December 07 2010 22:20 GMT
#59
Doc, you're too damn convincing.

/in
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Node
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States2159 Posts
December 09 2010 08:48 GMT
#115
Five more D:

I'm getting impatient. I need a mafia fix!
whole lies with a half smile
Node
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States2159 Posts
December 10 2010 00:05 GMT
#177
Let the games begin! I'm looking forward to seeing how this plays out, seeing as there are a bunch of people I haven't seen before and this is my first time with the serial killer / fbi agent setup.

A bit of advice:

Seeing as PMs aren't allowed in this game, what we want to shoot for is keeping this thread a) informative and b) succinct. If it devolves into a spamfest or two players going at each other for pages on end the mafia are going to have a field day. That's not to say long analysis is bad -- just keep it to the point.

At the moment, the only situation that I can think of that would warrant a roleclaim anytime soon would be if you are mew and have found mewtwo. Until then, keep your damn mouths shut as far as your role goes.
whole lies with a half smile
Node
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States2159 Posts
December 10 2010 00:25 GMT
#181
On December 10 2010 09:12 Hesmyrr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2010 09:05 Node wrote:
At the moment, the only situation that I can think of that would warrant a roleclaim anytime soon would be if you are mew and have found mewtwo. Until then, keep your damn mouths shut as far as your role goes.

+ Alakazam guilty result? And yes, PM or no PM, succinctness is critical.


I'd prefer that a claim on a guilty result be used as a last resort -- push the lynch with analysis and if that doesn't work play the roleclaim card.
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Node
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States2159 Posts
December 10 2010 00:44 GMT
#190
I'm not entirely sure what your "plan" is, LSB. All you've said is that we need to "have a general system for how blues play" and that barring any glaringly scummy play we should lynch an inactive day 1. Could you be a little more specific?
whole lies with a half smile
Node
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States2159 Posts
December 10 2010 00:47 GMT
#192
Fair enough, I missed that post.
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Node
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States2159 Posts
December 10 2010 04:37 GMT
#297
On December 10 2010 12:25 Gabriel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2010 12:20 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On December 10 2010 12:19 Gabriel wrote:
On December 10 2010 12:12 d3_crescentia wrote:
On December 10 2010 12:11 Gabriel wrote:
On December 10 2010 12:01 Oceanic wrote:
On December 10 2010 11:57 Gabriel wrote:
On December 10 2010 11:44 Kenpachi wrote:
On December 10 2010 11:40 Gabriel wrote:
On December 10 2010 11:34 Kenpachi wrote:
[quote]
what would posting history 4 hours into the game show you?

A) You dont want to be active posting
B) You want to "look" active
C) You read the rules but you actually dont know mafia KP? That was rare.
D) You dont want to lynch inactives because that doesnt work.
E) You want enlightment.
F) You vote for me out of literally nowhere. I mean: i post to flip Infundibulum and you come right after me. Care to explain at least?

A) 4 hours does not judge that. what if i went on TL tomorrow for the first time in the past 3 days?
B) Anyone who posts would want to look active.. Why would they post if they want to look inactive?
C) Why are you assuming i read the rules? how do you know i didnt just assume the KP?
D) It doesnt. shh
E) ?? its enlightenment
F) I dont agree with you voting for Infundibulum.

A) Well you just wrote 7 one liners and have yet to post something relevant.
B) But you are NOT. It is not about how you look. Come on that is not an argument, so you post one liners to look active? what is that? Sparta?
C) Well you actually read the rules because you posted the pokemon/classicmafia relation. I wonder why you just couldnt look for the mafia KP, and insisted to look clueless asking for it.
D) It doesnt? well you were pretty much inactive and so was Infundibulum. Maybe it does.
E) You think too much. You have again 2 posts where you "think" about this "think" about that, when it is clear that those post refer to info available in the opening rules. This heavily smells like "im not too sure, i dont know" plot.
F) So you agree that you are protecting infundibulum by voting me: More reason to flip him!.


This logic is flawed since the game just started. So they didn't post right at the start and their first post was later then a lot of people's. So they were inactive til their first post? What about all the other people that haven't posted yet. When they make their first post are you going to say the same thing about them? After all, they were even later and therefore must be even more suspicious?


Note that Kenpachi was actually posting since the start of the thread. People is inactive because we are just starting the game but nonsense has to be pinned down as soon as it comes out. I find hilariously weird that a guy posting one liners comes right after i vote Infundibulum (with a reason that may or may not be strong for other players) and simply votes Gabriel because he doesnt like my vote on Infundibulum. What do you think? Is that normal? He didnt even posted that.

So is this your first game?

You are not good at reading my friend ⇓.


Excuse him for not looking through your sig? It was a valid question considering your logic is so immensely flawed that it is laughable.

//End of arguing with random people defending random people when they actually cant pm eachother (suposedly). Going to sleep.


The hell is wrong with you? More than one person thinks that your logic is flawed, so you accuse them of breaking the rules and ragequit for the night? Your accusations appear random and designed to stir up controversy. I'm not sure if that's the best way to apply pressure at this point, as this thread is very quickly turning into Gabriel vs. The World, each of which are repeating the same arguments over and over. It's exactly what we want to avoid.

For the record, I also find the fact that two people jumped on LSB's bandwagon of Infundibulum incredibly suspicious. I'm going to encourage people to keep an eye on zeks (since we're all already talking about Gabriel). I'm also not prepared to vote Gabriel yet, as I can't really imagine a mafia member drawing so much attention to themselves over something so small.

On December 10 2010 12:35 Infundibulum wrote:
by the way new players should read this link:

http://mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=JEEP's_Tells_for_Finding_the_Cop

i would ignore the numbers part. there are some interesting articles on the mafia scum wiki, but do not take them as gospel. i gather that the playstyle over there is somewhat different.


Why would you draw attention to the fact that someone might be a cop? When I read this it seemed you wanted to point "Intermediate player looking for reasons to vote day 1" (40%), which could describe Gabriel's play thus far.

Unless you actually meant to link the one for finding mafia, in which case well done.
whole lies with a half smile
Node
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States2159 Posts
December 10 2010 04:58 GMT
#302
On December 10 2010 13:56 Insanious wrote:
Completely random I know... but can someone tell me how to get to the voting thread. On the front page it says "vote in a separate thread found here" but there's no link on here, or after it. I think I missed where it was listed and would be nice to be able to see the votes... I have a feeling I'm missing something very obvious.


If you go to the mafia forum here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31

you can see the voting topic about five topics down.

Here's a link to the topic itself: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=175624
whole lies with a half smile
Node
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States2159 Posts
December 10 2010 05:01 GMT
#305
On December 10 2010 13:59 zeks wrote:
Vote on infun is placeholder for now - though his recent slip ups seem unusual

Nice to get a reaction from you folks though


How do you feel that he slipped up?
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Node
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States2159 Posts
December 11 2010 14:58 GMT
#404
As weird as Gabriel's play is -- I still highly doubt that he's mafia, there's no way scum would draw so much attention to themselves -- I agree completely with his analysis of zeks. I'm still curious about the "infun slip ups" line, which has yet to be clarified. Also, I think the "stop overreacting" and "don't go apeshit" lines were excellent catches, as they were put down after zeks deflected pressure. For those who don't know, a classic scumtell is defending oneself and acting guilty when there aren't people attacking you. Scum, after all, has something to be guilty about while townies do not.

I'd also like to draw everybody's attention to Eiii, who has been posting in an incredibly scummy fashion.

On December 11 2010 16:58 Eiii wrote:
...gabes posts are so blatantly bad I'm actually starting to have a hard time believing they could possibly be authored by scum. o_O


On December 11 2010 17:10 Eiii wrote:
holy shit

Gabriel Mafia: The game where it doesn't matter that your arguments are logically consistent, or that they're accurate, or even that they make any sense at all! As long as you have a long post to make so it looks like you're trying really really hard, congrats! You're absolved of potentially being mafia. Next suspect!


What, exactly, are these supposed to contribute? They do absolutely nothing as far as actually refuting gabriel's arguments, but instead continue to pile shit on him by calling his posts bad. It does zero for the actual discussion at hand. To me, it screams scum attempting to deflect a lynch.

For now, I'm going to be putting my vote on zeks. If he turns up scum, I think we have been given excellent candidates for the lynch on day 2.
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Node
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States2159 Posts
December 11 2010 22:54 GMT
#437
On December 12 2010 05:47 Kavdragon wrote:

I don't have time to search his games atm, but if anyone has been in a game with Ken, where he was scum, I'd like to hear your thoughts.


I believe he was scum in Haunted Mafia, where his post style was pretty much the same as we've seen in every other game. No matter what role he is Kenpachi plays pretty suspiciously -- look at how he played Salem mafia, and he was blue!

I really don't think we have enough to lynch Kenpachi... yet. I think the best way to determine whether or not he's scum short of a DT check is through guilt by association -- flip another red and see how they relate to Kenpachi.
whole lies with a half smile
Node
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States2159 Posts
December 11 2010 23:18 GMT
#441
On December 12 2010 08:03 d3_crescentia wrote:
Hasn't it been 48 hours already since Day 1 post?


Night isn't until 7PM PST, we have some extra time day 1.
whole lies with a half smile
Node
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States2159 Posts
December 12 2010 03:04 GMT
#449
*eagerly awaits night post*
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Node
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States2159 Posts
December 12 2010 09:45 GMT
#476
Yeah, as Gabriel states, I'm even more suspicious of Eiii since he made the final swing vote on Kenpachi after discrediting Gabriel's analysis. I think he would make an excellent lynch tomorrow.
whole lies with a half smile
Node
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States2159 Posts
December 12 2010 20:56 GMT
#492
On December 13 2010 05:43 Gabriel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2010 03:06 GGQ wrote:
On December 13 2010 02:27 LSB wrote:
GGQ: Since you've played forum mafia before, could you provide links of some of your games?


Certainly.

http://altitudegame.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5096
http://altitudegame.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5341

You'll see that the level of play in the games I've linked is much much lower than it is here. I feel like I'm in a little over my head atm lol, but I'll do my best to rise to the challenge.

Previous data from players is useless. Half decent players are able to get away with different playstyles. Im sure TL veterans dont look previous games unless there is a contradictory post from the accused in the active game (refered to the old game).


I wouldn't say that. It might have saved Kenpachi's life had more people taken it into consideration. There are very few players able to completely posting style on a dime, and most of those that can (*cough* ace *cough*) are already known for it.
whole lies with a half smile
Node
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States2159 Posts
December 14 2010 01:05 GMT
#561
On December 14 2010 09:41 Hesmyrr wrote:
Hey guys, so I don't know what's going on, but a voltorb that was on me apparently exploded at 12/13/10 15:05 (because mod fails). Fortunately my unwitting wit and shell has saved me, but no longer I boast that powerful shell that guaranteed my survival.

So...
I am Cloyster, voltorb exploded on me and my extra night live was removed because tree.hugger is FAILURE


That's an interesting claim.

I'm inclined to believe it -- Hesmyrr has been fairly active, has been stating clear positions on who should be lynched, and in general seems like a town-aligned player willing to put himself out there to risk hits (veteran-style play). In fact, after re-reading his posts I'm not entirely sure where the suspicions of Hesmyrr being scum have come from, and I'll be taking a closer look at those who were putting a lot of pressure on him.
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Node
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States2159 Posts
December 14 2010 01:36 GMT
#564
I would think that Voltorbs would fall under "night hits", but I could be wrong. Clarification would be nice.
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Node
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States2159 Posts
December 14 2010 23:38 GMT
#639
I'm going to vote zeks today, as I don't want to let him slip through the cracks.

I still think Eiii is mafia, and I'm very very suspicious of LSB. Note his "I'm going to die tonight!" and "Seriously, I don't understand why I'm still alive" posts. It's just a way of saying, "Look! I'm town! Really! Because I'm a target! Really!" If I had to pick a person who would be Gengar, it would be LSB.
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Node
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States2159 Posts
December 16 2010 12:17 GMT
#773
town got hit hard this morning.

On December 16 2010 16:34 BrownBear wrote:
JEeesus christ, what is happening this game.


Post more, you!

At the moment I'm in an airport posting from my phone, but I hope to be able to contribute more in the next day. For now I'll just put down my overall impressions. I wouldn't be at all surprised if d3 is mewtwo, but I'm not sure if I've got the confidence to lynch what may be a veteran. I'm a lot more suspicious of DCL than I am of insanious -- I haven't actually noticed DCL's posts before now, though it's possible that's because insanious had some pressure put on him earlier in the game, whereas DCL has been largely ignored.

I also still think Eiii is scum.
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