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integral
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3156 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-10 10:25:16
December 02 2010 03:02 GMT
#1
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>> CLICK HERE TO VIEW TEAM AND PLAYER TRADE VALUES <<




Trading Rules:
  • You may make two trades per week from your main team, and one trade per week on your anti-team.
  • Trades will cost one point per trade made.
  • No trading up. The total adjusted trade value must remain even or decrease.
  • You may use any differential you gain or lose in trading any player for any trade you would like to make that week, as long as your total adjusted trade value remains the same or decreases. This means it is now possible to trade one expensive player and one cheap player for two medium-cost players.
  • You may use any remaining differential from your main team on your anti-team and vice versa.
    If you trade A and B on main team and C on anti-team for D and E on main team and F on anti team, A+B-C must be >= D+E-F.
  • You must post your trades in this thread and in the format indicated below and by the deadline indicated or your trades will not be included.
  • The trade value formula is detailed in the spoiler below. There is a new formula. If it doesn't make sense, don't worry about it, I'll be calculating it for you.
  • Update: You may retain adjusted trade value differential from week to week. I am not adding this to the spreadsheet, I will be tracking it using this thread. Don't fuck with your posts trying to cheat extra decimals, not only will I disqualify you from the league I'll ask TL mods to ban you.


+ Show Spoiler [Trade Value formula] +

There is a new trade value formula this round where a player's trade value is based on their expected point output as indicated by their cost. This is essentially a progressive tax that mitigates the win-rate disparity between the best and the worst players -- wins do not affect expensive players as much, and losses do not affect cheaper players as much.

After every week trade value will become the new C, so costs will be compounded weekly.

If this doesn't make sense, don't worry about it, I'll be calculating it for you.

Trade Value = ((P/(3+(C/10)/9))/M) * (M/9) + (C*(9 - M)/9)

P = Player's points.
M = number of matches played.
C = Player's original cost

3 + (C/10) is the average points per cost each player is expected to earn over the round.
9 is the total number of matches each team plays in a round.

This formula figures out what a player's point cost would be given their current performance and their original cost. (ie someone scoring 4 points per match with an original cost of 10 would have a cost of 10) This is then weighted with their original cost; the weights are the percentage of games played for the "new" cost and percentage of games left for the original cost.

Adjusted trade value = Trade value * # of matches left.



TRADES MUST BE FORMATTED AS FOLLOWING

  1. Copy and paste from the Trade Info tab on the spreadsheet your TL ID, Total Adjusted Trade Value, Main Team, and Anti-Team
  2. Indicate what trades you wish to make by striking through the players you wish to trade and bolding the players you're trading for. You cannot trade your captain. You may make only two trades on your main team -- 2 players, or 1 player and your team. You may make only one trade on your anti-team.
  3. Calculate the adjusted trade value differential according to the example below. You must write out the adjusted trade values longhand and in parentheses exactly like below. I'll be checking your math using copy and paste.
  4. As long as this differential is greater than or equal to zero, your trade is legal.


So if I wanted to trade Bisu for Kal and STX for MBC on my main team, and Jaehoon for Tossgirl on my anti-team, I'd do it like so:

OP Example 136.27 Flash Bisu Kal Soulkey Hyuk Reach Paralyze STX MBC Turn Jaehoon Tossgirl Perfectman

(Bisu - Kal) + (STX - MBC) - (Jaehoon - Tossgirl)
(57.956 - 35.097) + (28.933 - 27.875) - (27.875 - 5.444)
= 1.486

Since my final adjusted trade value differential is greater than or equal to 0, this is a legal trade.

+ Show Spoiler [Another legal trade example] +
OP Example 136.27 Flash Bisu Jaedong Soulkey Hyuk Reach Paralyze STX SKT Turn Jaehoon Zero Perfectman

(Bisu - Jaedong) + (STX - SKT) - (Jaehoon - Zero)
(57.956 - 66.956) + (28.933 - 43.670) - (27.875 - 52.935)
= 1.323



Trades are now open until Saturday December 11th 13:00 KST
integral
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3156 Posts
December 02 2010 03:03 GMT
#2
Reserved.
Versita
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada1032 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-02 05:31:36
December 02 2010 03:09 GMT
#3
Versita 110.54 Stork TurN Anytime soulkey Mind Shine Really firebathero khan Action Light Snow horang2

(TurN- Anytime) + (Really - firebathero) - (Light - Snow)
(27.222 - 12.194) + (33.128 - 22.633) - (48.197 - 23.285)
= 0.611

+ Show Spoiler +
i really regret putting Light on my anti -_- i feel so stupid fuckkk
infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-02 03:34:06
December 02 2010 03:25 GMT
#4
infinitestory 150.12 Jaedong Sea Kal Snow RorO Sun Paralyze FOX horang2 ForGG Hyun great
(Snow - RorO) - (Hyun - great)
(23.285 - 33.128) - (17.713 - 27.875)
= 0.319
Translator:3
Vortok
Profile Joined December 2009
United States830 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-02 04:19:22
December 02 2010 03:59 GMT
#5
Vortok 150.18 jaedong bisu leta Violet firebathero ssak Paralyze kt han Horang2 hydra grape
(ssak - Paralyze) - (hydra - grape)
(14.444 - 3.194) - (29.907 - 19.579)
= 0.922

Edit: Added a second player exchange. Think I did that right.
Antoine
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States7481 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-02 04:33:22
December 02 2010 04:31 GMT
#6
139.37 Flash Jaedong Light Calm RubyAnytime Paralyze KT Really ggaemo Horang2 Killer
(Ruby - Anytime) - (ggaemo - Horang2)
(17.406 - 12.194) - (38.036 - 33.128)
=0.304

by the way i did edit my team before the deadline in the signup thread to have horang2 instead of really, but really and horang2 have the same trade value so it doesn't matter which was originally on my team and which i'm adding now.
ModeratorFlash Sea Action Snow Midas | TheStC Ret Tyler MC | RIP 우정호
Nemesis
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2568 Posts
December 02 2010 04:37 GMT
#7
Nemesis 160.36 sea hyuk kal leta light stork stars FOX horang2 great jaehoon soo
(stars - FOX) - (jaehoon - soo)
(36.485 - 26.833) - (27.875 - 19.746)
=1.523
Lee Young Ho fighting! KT P are just CHINTOSSTIC.
ThisIsFate
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada10 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-03 22:31:12
December 02 2010 05:40 GMT
#8
ThisIsFate 179.08 Flash Fantasy Leta Hyuk Kwanro ActionStork FOX KT Rolster TurN PerfectMan han

(Kwanro - Action) + (FOX - KT Rolster)
(16.333 - 17.713) + (26.833 - 18.433)
= 7.02
IIsmittyII
Profile Joined April 2010
United States12 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-02 07:11:12
December 02 2010 05:50 GMT
#9
IIsmittyII 75.07 Main Bisu ZerO fOrGG hiya soo Paralyze sKyHigh Canata KT Anti Killer Kal Leta M18M
(19.75 - 14.23) + (19.75 - 3.19) - (38.038 - 17.71)
=1.75
Antoine
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States7481 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-02 07:20:12
December 02 2010 05:57 GMT
#10
all fixed
ModeratorFlash Sea Action Snow Midas | TheStC Ret Tyler MC | RIP 우정호
Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8033 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-02 06:23:03
December 02 2010 06:21 GMT
#11
135.55 best Kal soulkey shine leta midas by.sun hite Oz horang2 hyun Perfectman

(Best - Kal) + (hite - oz)
(28.848 - 35.097) + (25.842 - 16.694)
=2.899
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xxpack09
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2160 Posts
December 02 2010 06:59 GMT
#12
138.06 Jaedong Sea Snow soo Anytime RuBy Lomo modesty Hite BaBy han HyuN M18M

(19.746 - 12.194) + (5.444 - 5.444) - (33.128 - 27.875)
= 2.299
Kanil
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1713 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-03 09:52:24
December 02 2010 07:17 GMT
#13
Kanil 156.75 Jaedong Stats HiyA Iris Paralyze Fantasy Stork Hite KT PerfectMan TurN Hydra Crazy-Hydra

(14.233 - 14) + (25.842 - 18.433) - (29.907 - 22.633) = 0.368

+ Show Spoiler +
I didn't like that Hydra, I'm getting a new one.

Edit: Added in the Iris trade.
I used to have an Oz icon over here ---->
ellerina
Profile Joined April 2010
Philippines452 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-02 08:41:19
December 02 2010 08:30 GMT
#14
ellerina 116.18 Sea Leta Soo Hiya firebathero Best Calm MBC Horang2 ForGG Shine Really

(19.746-14.233)- (38.036-33.128) = 0.605
Still round the corner there may wait , A new road or a secret gate /And though I oft have passed them by, A day will come at last when I /Shall take the hidden paths that run/West of the Moon, East of the Sun
integral
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3156 Posts
December 02 2010 08:48 GMT
#15
On December 02 2010 13:31 Antoine wrote:
139.37 Flash Jaedong Light Calm RubyAnytime Paralyze KT Really ggaemo Horang2 Killer
(Ruby - Anytime) - (ggaemo - Horang2)
(17.406 - 12.194) - (38.036 - 33.128)
=0.304

by the way i did edit my team before the deadline in the signup thread to have horang2 instead of really, but really and horang2 have the same trade value so it doesn't matter which was originally on my team and which i'm adding now.

k
Carefree
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States1571 Posts
December 02 2010 09:26 GMT
#16
CarefreeMe 141.51 Bisu Light Stork HiyA JangBi Midas s2 Best SKT Horang2 ggaemo M18M Bogus

(Jangbi - Midas) + (s2 - Best) - (M18M - Bogus)
(17.406 - 19.579) + (10.889 - 28.848) - (17.713 - 38.036)
= 0.191

DebOnAire - 「 Bisu[Shield] 」
integral
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3156 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-02 10:10:50
December 02 2010 10:10 GMT
#17
Rosters came out, (T)Iris is confirmed on ACE. Since everyone knows Iris will get significant playing time as a new recruit to ACE, I'm setting (T)Iris at an initial cost of 2 which will give him an adjusted trade value of 14.000. His formula will be different -- since he was not on a roster for the first two games, his adjusted trade value will be based on his 7 possible games.
Taosu
Profile Joined August 2010
Ukraine1074 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-03 13:12:38
December 02 2010 12:00 GMT
#18
taosu 129.19 flash stork stats Kwanro Leta hiya Paralyze stars OZ horang2 Jaehoon m18m Perfectman

(Kwanro - Leta) + (stars - OZ) - (M18M - Perfectman)
(16.333 - 38.036) + (36.485 - 16,694) - (17,713 - 19,746)
= 0.121
Also fan of Hyuk, Pure, free, Action, Stats, Leta, Horang2, Snow, Flying, Shuttle, Movie, Paralyze
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
December 02 2010 14:13 GMT
#19
Points:134.13
Main: Bisu Fantasy Kwanro ANYTIME HiyA Jangbi Hyuk
Team:SKT MBC
Anti: Soulkey Perfectman Jaehoon Saint
(Kwanro - Anytime) + (SKT - MBC) - (Soulkey - Perfectman)
(16.333 - 12.194) + (43.67 - 27.875) - (38.394 - 19.746)
(4.139 + 15.795) - 18.648
= 1.286
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Noxide
Profile Joined July 2009
United States2870 Posts
December 02 2010 14:47 GMT
#20
noxide 167.32 Fantasy hiya light leta Kal hyvaagreat SKTFOX TurnHorang2 soo jaehoon

(SKT - FOX) + (hyvaa - great) - (Turn - Horang2)
(43.670 - 26.833) + (5.444 - 27.875) - (27.222 - 33.128)
=0.312
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