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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
November 28 2010 08:32 GMT
#17
/in
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
December 11 2010 01:20 GMT
#114
omg I love you Annul. As someone with harry potter fans in the family (and being one myself) I appreciate all the time you put into it.

Now onto the game. Everyone should elect me as Minister of Magic. I bring the unique flavor of a player experienced enough to have a good general idea of what's going on and new enough to still be affected by begginers luck. As you minister of magic I will be open to any and all input (although older players will carry more weight) and I will try to make my first lynch as diplomatic as possible. Under my leadership the town will focus less on forming a town circle (something that has doomed many a past town) and more on lynching scum. Under my leadership any detective/alighnment checker roles that exist will not claim until they have found a red or confirmed a blue because with so many alternative victory senarios it will be crucial to have these players alive to determine who can be trusted. The one exception is if a dt finds a medic or equivelent type role, these should NOT be revealed because they will immediatly become death eater targets. As for the medics they should focus on protecting any blue roles that our detective unearth and once a detective is uncovered and confirmed than medics should protect them.

This whole post relies on there being standard roles in this game...
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
December 11 2010 04:27 GMT
#177
No No No LSB's plan is terrible. It allows people to vote without justifying their choice and it easily allows for manipulation of the votes. The auditor only makes things worse because it adds another middle man that the death eaters can infiltrate. That being said I don't think LSB had scummy intentions with his plan. It's just for the sake of openess and clarity we should have open elections. Without people giving reasons for their votes it becomes exponentialy harder to catch mafia because you don't have as much material to analyze.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
December 11 2010 04:42 GMT
#178
Also if any of the veterans would like to help me weed out the smurfs I've started a list of players who I don't think are smurfs because I've played with them before. If you see anyone else on the list of people who have played a game before but didn't make it onto my list please let me know.

LSB, RebirthOfLeGenD, Kenpachi, Ghrur, Aidnai, Coagulation, CubEdIn, Meapak_Ziphh, Youngminii, jcarlsoniv, kitaman27, Deconduo, orgolove, ~OpZ~, LunarDestiny, and Pandain.

I'm pretty sure these people aren't smurfs so now it's up to people who have played more games than me to point out anyone I might have missed.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
December 11 2010 06:18 GMT
#200
Gimme a reason RoL, I was thinking this myself but I hadn't decided for sure yet. However since you're so certain lets hear it. Why should we lynch LSB.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
December 11 2010 08:32 GMT
#212
Well I'm going to bed, vote for me . If you need a reason it's because I'm not LSB who's proposing a very scummy voting plan and I'm not RoL who's entire platform is to kill LSB :D. Oh and RoL in answer to your question of why not LSB my answer is that right now I would lynch LSB if elected however theres still a lot of time so I'm not committing myself to killing him like you are.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
December 11 2010 18:57 GMT
#255
Ok so here are a list of the mayor candidates

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On December 11 2010 10:20 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
omg I love you Annul. As someone with harry potter fans in the family (and being one myself) I appreciate all the time you put into it.

Now onto the game. Everyone should elect me as Minister of Magic. I bring the unique flavor of a player experienced enough to have a good general idea of what's going on and new enough to still be affected by begginers luck. As you minister of magic I will be open to any and all input (although older players will carry more weight) and I will try to make my first lynch as diplomatic as possible. Under my leadership the town will focus less on forming a town circle (something that has doomed many a past town) and more on lynching scum. Under my leadership any detective/alighnment checker roles that exist will not claim until they have found a red or confirmed a blue because with so many alternative victory senarios it will be crucial to have these players alive to determine who can be trusted. The one exception is if a dt finds a medic or equivelent type role, these should NOT be revealed because they will immediatly become death eater targets. As for the medics they should focus on protecting any blue roles that our detective unearth and once a detective is uncovered and confirmed than medics should protect them.

This whole post relies on there being standard roles in this game...

On December 11 2010 10:42 zeks wrote:
If I get selected Minister of Magic you guys can just vote for whoever and I'll lynch the person with the most votes regardless of situation. So basically everyone gets a say in who dies first.

Since the Minster of Magic is essentially the same as everyone else after the first lynch if elected I'll gladly step back down. I'm asking for your votes to ensure the most democratic way of deciding first lynch.

On December 11 2010 11:27 LSB wrote:
[image loading]

Mad that we haven't won a game for such a long time?


Reason Number one two three four five: I win games for the town.

There have been 5 recent town victories and I had a hand in all of them
+ Show Spoiler +
Slightly Embellished

Don't lose yo village: I put together the pieces and guarented victory
And Then There Were None(RAM) I kill everyone else. And as town I win with Radfield
TL Mafia XXX I come up with a giant plan that the town use and the mafia panics and kills me day one.


Pick Your Power Mafia 2!: I picked traitor. As traitor I get our most important mafia member killed, and also the SK killed. Enough deaths meant the mafia lost
Team Melee Mini Mafia II: As scum I am imediatly identified. Our team has one of the members claim doctor... and get killed. Our team then does a noobie mistake and looses.

Simply put. I lose as Mafia. And as town I help the town win. Vote me for mayor if you want to win!

On December 11 2010 14:42 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
<3 sorry I will stop with the argument! I would rather establish smurfs with alternate play styles and run with a few different accounts than constantly making new names and asking for access and jumping through all the hoops that go with that -__-;
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on topic.
vote for me if you want, I will kill LSB day one! That is my platform.

Legit, that is my platform. Upon being elected I will kill LSB, vote for me.

On December 11 2010 15:24 Kenpachi wrote:
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On December 11 2010 15:18 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Gimme a reason RoL, I was thinking this myself but I hadn't decided for sure yet. However since you're so certain lets hear it. Why should we lynch LSB.

his support would probably be all the negatives about LSB. Theres a ton of em and its viable.

WELL, ima do something big this game. I! will be the mayor!!

Plis vote.

On December 12 2010 00:25 deconduo wrote:
I'm going to run for MoM as well. I'm not veteran, but I have played a few games. I'm not going to hold a vote for who to lynch, but I will listen to peoples advice and make my own decision. I feel this way I am pretty transparent, and its much more difficult for mafia to manipulate the lynch.

So vote for me



Most promise the same thing, openess and a willingness to listen to the town. Except of course for LSB. The mayor vote basically comes down to do you trust LSB or not and if you don't then it's a personality contest between the remaining candidates. Except for LSB pretty much all the candidates have promised to listen to the town in some way or another. Out of these players at least one of them is mafia, therefore consider this list a possible lynch list if I get elected.

Oh and regarding smurfs. I still want to know who is a smurf and who isn't. I know better players may want to play with annonimity but I'd like to know who is a smurf and who is new because there are some things new players do that make them look like scum. I'd like to know when it's a new player making a mistake and when it's an experienced player taken advantage of their smurfing position. That being said I don't care who the person smurfing is i.e. I don't need to know the identity of the smurf. However for the sake of clarity I will continue to try and find the smurfs.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
December 11 2010 21:46 GMT
#271
On December 12 2010 05:31 Barundar wrote:
Stupid question, but is there a chance of a village idiot in the game?

If there is a VI it might be RoL because he's been acting extremely odd so far. Normally he would justify his reasons for killing LSB with really strong well thought out posts but in this game he's like "I just wanna revenge kill." this has struck me as really odd, maybe I'm the only one but ive seen RoL play much better.

/stupid theory
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
December 11 2010 23:45 GMT
#284
DO NOT VOTE FOR ROL. Even a vote for LSB is better than a vote for RoL. He's either a village idiot or his win condition is to kill LSB or he's a mafia who thinks he can hide by acting "to stupid for a mafia."
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
December 12 2010 02:00 GMT
#301
LSB it actually is kinda fishy you ommitted that part of the PM because I agree with airbag that you sounded like you were rolefishing.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
December 12 2010 03:30 GMT
#317
RoL you are spamming now. Everyone ignore RoL, he's most likely someone who needs a particular event to happen i.e. he gets lynched or LSB gets lynched. We should really just focus on our choice for mayor and our first lynch. If elected I will lynch one of the mayor candidates except for RoL. I feel like RoL is a really dangerous lynch at this point because of possible third party motives. I've also been thinking about night actions. Our DT's (assuming we have them) should check RoL first and formost followed by LSB (if he doesn't get lynched day 1) and the mayor. Our medics (again assuming we have them) should protect themselves unless they have a really strong feeling that someone is blue (which at this point I don't so I don't have any advice for the medics). Any vigis (as always assuming we have them) should only use a hit if they can hit more than once, if you are a one shot only type of vigi I'd save your kill until we get in a situation where we have a confirmed red that we don't have enough lynches or time to kill.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
December 12 2010 04:12 GMT
#322
I'd rather have a mayor withbrains over balls
But seriously you have this vendetta against LSB which has really caused me to discount you. If you weren't so dead set on killing LSB then yeah I'd definetly consider voting for you but as it stands every practically every single one of your posts has been attacking LSB. Do I think LSB's plan is bad? Yes! Do I think there is some suspicion surronding LSB? Yes again. Do I think killing him NO MATTER WHAT is a good thing? Hell no. I don't care how far you're willing to stick your neck out on this lynch if I don't think the person you're lynching is the right choice.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
December 12 2010 04:23 GMT
#325
On December 12 2010 13:13 Airbag wrote:
who would you kill instead of LSB meapak?

I already said this, I would kill one of the mayor candidates, most likely decon because he got a lot of votes that came really out of nowhere or possible zeks or ken but I'll wait until the election is over to make my final decision. I would of course lynch LSB if the overwhelming majority of the town wanted that but right now I just don't see him as the best bet.

I do have my eye on a couple of people who are not mayor candidates but I'd like to see their behavior play out some more.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
December 12 2010 18:53 GMT
#380
On December 13 2010 03:08 kitaman27 wrote:
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On December 13 2010 02:01 LSB wrote:
In all seriousness, Meapak will host Open elections and we should start scumhunting soon


Just to confirm, was this your campaign promise Meapak? I was under the impression that you wanted to target a mayor candidate. Mind clearing that up?

Yes one of the mayor candidates would be my prefered target, however people need to think twice before they rush to lynch RoL or LSB, as I've outlined before I feel pretty uncomfortable lynching them because of possible third party outcomes. Deconduo was the person I was leaning to and since then people have spoken for and against his lynch. I'm not absolutely married to lynching a mayor candidate, I feel like there is a very high possibility there is a mafia amongst the mayor candidates but if the town finds a better candidate for first lynch or I find another candidate who the town agrees with then we'll lynch them.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
December 12 2010 18:57 GMT
#383
On December 13 2010 03:52 ~OpZ~ wrote:
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On December 13 2010 03:37 Airbag wrote:
On December 13 2010 03:33 Beneather wrote:
If mafia doesn't run for MoM then what are they thinking of doing staying under the radar. There has to be a mafia running for MoM, LSB put a lot of attention on himself when he stated all his ideas such as private voting to keep mafia manipulating the votes by starting bandwagons. Then you guys stated that he could just manipulate the votes since no one else seeing it. Why don't he just post the results what each person had voted on this thread for all of us to confirm it after everyone has voted. Correct? But since LSB has dropped out we really do not have to worry about this.


But if he was mafia he could lie about the results of at least 8 players.

I think the fact that he is dropping out makes him more likely to be scum. If he drops out then he can start making other mayor candidates looking suspicious and use this excuse "oh i dropped out so im not scum why would scum not go all the way for mayor?" and then mafia will just control who we are suspecting


Yea, kinda looks like LSB is pulling a Pandain. Pandain was scum and ran for mayor hard in Insane mafia, but he dropped it cuz Dr. H was about to win. He railed Dr.H hard as scum afterwards too, even though he basically gave the mayor position away. Thats what I think LSB is up to.

Remeber in that game the mayor had real power, Dr. H had bodyguards. In this game once the first lynch is done the mayor has no more real power. If LSB decides to trash me after I win than it's kinda pointless because I'm just another townie at that point.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
December 13 2010 00:10 GMT
#432
Ok people here are my possible targets:

Deconduo
I've already explained why I think he should be lynched.

Aidnai
He's the person who I've been keeping an eye on and LSB did a very good analyis of him
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On December 13 2010 09:00 LSB wrote:
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On December 11 2010 13:07 aidnai wrote:
On December 11 2010 10:28 annul wrote:
THREE MORE IMPORTANT FACTS:

1. there are some number of smurfs in this game. be aware.
2. pay very close attention to the final line of every cycle change post. helpful hint.
3. a reminder from the OP: if a player has a special ability, it will be somewhat related to their character/entity. in this way, a large number of possible roles can already be guessed at. google is awesomesauce. not all players have special abilities, even ones that may be "obvious" to have power roles.


On December 11 2010 10:02 annul wrote:
Hello! I am NotAnnul, your tour guide throughout wizarding Britain!

Welcome to Hogsmeade, the wizarding city. Stores line the streets, such as Dervish and Banges,
...

As of day 1, there are 8 living players loyal to the Death Eaters, the Death Eater kill power is 3, and there are 10 living players with potential alternate victories remaining.


So, our helpful hint is that there are 10 people out of 31 with alternate win conditions. This is almost 1/3 players with ulterior motives.

I'm glad the mayor doesn't have much power. It's great to have mayoral elections so there's something to talk about day one (other than lynching the inactives lol), but I don't trust anyone putting themselves out there for mayor.

As for LSB's plan--
If LSB is mafia, the plan can be abused by mafia by manipulating votes as normal (same as a public vote, except worse because people won't have to post their reasoning). If the auditor is also red, scum can manipulate the reported result as well.
If LSB is town, but the auditor is red, death eaters can still manipulate the votes as normal.
Only if both LSB and auditor are pro town do we get any benefit from this plan. Actually, the auditor makes the odds worse...

So, interesting idea, LSB, but it relies too much on us having to trust you.

Although this seems like a large post. Take a look at it closely. It doesn’t state anything.
First Aidani is trying to seem like he is contributing to the town by discussing the setup. Two paragraphs that are junk and basically irrelevant to the game.
Next he proceeds to criticize the plan. Although it seems like real though. Take note. All these points were already brought up before or are already addressed

Aidani in this post is doing nothing but making a façade of analysis


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On December 12 2010 05:56 aidnai wrote:
Meapak's summary of MoM candidates is not very accurate. It's more like
-LSB advocates private votes for lynch. There may be advantages or disadvantages, which town can discuss
-A few others advocate public (normal) votes for lynch. This completely trivializes the MoM position.
-A few others are trying to pressure or disrupt by making their platform a specific lynch.

I like what LSB is doing. I don't see how his option is necessarily worse than the other options, and it has the added benefit of generating day 1 discussion.

On the other hand, if we vote for 'someone who will listen to the town', we might as well forget there even is a MoM. Just RNG a mayor, vote as normal for a lynch, lynch the mayor day 2 if he fails to comply.

RoL's tactic would look better to me if he would provide some justification. RoL, you need to be able to convince town that there is something to your hunches.

Firstly, he completely reversed his position on my plan. Very wishy washy. But he’s doing this without actually taking a position. All he says is “there are some good some bad”. Looks like he’s avoiding the issue.

Note one thing, non of the top candidates for the mayor are mafia. I’m getting a green read on Meapak, and I still believe that RoL is Mayor.
There doesn’t seem to be a way for the mafia to take the mayorship. Aidnai then says “How about we RNG a mayor?”
Yeah… Aidnai is trying to get us to trust him with who should be mayor. And just watch, he’ll ‘randomly’ choose someone who happens to be scum.


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On December 12 2010 17:52 aidnai wrote:
Meapak, you have my vote. We've spent a lot of time discussing the candidacy of LSB and RoL. What about deconduo? Here's his posts so far:

On December 12 2010 00:25 deconduo wrote:
I'm going to run for MoM as well. I'm not veteran, but I have played a few games. I'm not going to hold a vote for who to lynch, but I will listen to peoples advice and make my own decision. I feel this way I am pretty transparent, and its much more difficult for mafia to manipulate the lynch.

So vote for me


On December 12 2010 01:44 deconduo wrote:
On December 11 2010 11:27 LSB wrote:
[image loading]

Mad that we haven't won a game for such a long time?


Reason Number one two three four five: I win games for the town.

There have been 5 recent town victories and I had a hand in all of them
+ Show Spoiler +
Slightly Embellished

Don't lose yo village: I put together the pieces and guarented victory
And Then There Were None(RAM) I kill everyone else. And as town I win with Radfield
TL Mafia XXX I come up with a giant plan that the town use and the mafia panics and kills me day one.


Pick Your Power Mafia 2!: I picked traitor. As traitor I get our most important mafia member killed, and also the SK killed. Enough deaths meant the mafia lost
Team Melee Mini Mafia II: As scum I am imediatly identified. Our team has one of the members claim doctor... and get killed. Our team then does a noobie mistake and looses.

Simply put. I lose as Mafia. And as town I help the town win. Vote me for mayor if you want to win!


If you are gonna help us win anyway, why do we need you as mayor? Vote for me instead.




On December 12 2010 02:28 deconduo wrote:
On December 12 2010 02:05 Radfield wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On December 11 2010 11:27 LSB wrote:
[image loading]

Mad that we haven't won a game for such a long time?


Reason Number one two three four five: I win games for the town.

There have been 5 recent town victories and I had a hand in all of them
+ Show Spoiler +
Slightly Embellished

Don't lose yo village: I put together the pieces and guarented victory
And Then There Were None(RAM) I kill everyone else. And as town I win with Radfield
TL Mafia XXX I come up with a giant plan that the town use and the mafia panics and kills me day one.


Pick Your Power Mafia 2!: I picked traitor. As traitor I get our most important mafia member killed, and also the SK killed. Enough deaths meant the mafia lost
Team Melee Mini Mafia II: As scum I am imediatly identified. Our team has one of the members claim doctor... and get killed. Our team then does a noobie mistake and looses.

Simply put. I lose as Mafia. And as town I help the town win. Vote me for mayor if you want to win!



I died night 1 in 'And Then There Were None'..... And didn't town lose that game??


Are you sure? I'm pretty sure it went down to a 3-way between me LSB and you. I voted for you and you voted for me, then LSB hammered us both. We both died, LSB was last man standing and won.


On December 12 2010 03:04 deconduo wrote:
On December 12 2010 02:55 Pandain wrote:
what powers does mayor have?


Picks first day lynch, thats all. No bodyguards or anything.


On December 12 2010 05:44 deconduo wrote:
On December 12 2010 04:39 Radfield wrote:
On December 12 2010 02:28 deconduo wrote:
On December 12 2010 02:05 Radfield wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On December 11 2010 11:27 LSB wrote:
[image loading]

Mad that we haven't won a game for such a long time?


Reason Number one two three four five: I win games for the town.

There have been 5 recent town victories and I had a hand in all of them
+ Show Spoiler +
Slightly Embellished

Don't lose yo village: I put together the pieces and guarented victory
And Then There Were None(RAM) I kill everyone else. And as town I win with Radfield
TL Mafia XXX I come up with a giant plan that the town use and the mafia panics and kills me day one.


Pick Your Power Mafia 2!: I picked traitor. As traitor I get our most important mafia member killed, and also the SK killed. Enough deaths meant the mafia lost
Team Melee Mini Mafia II: As scum I am imediatly identified. Our team has one of the members claim doctor... and get killed. Our team then does a noobie mistake and looses.

Simply put. I lose as Mafia. And as town I help the town win. Vote me for mayor if you want to win!



I died night 1 in 'And Then There Were None'..... And didn't town lose that game??


Are you sure? I'm pretty sure it went down to a 3-way between me LSB and you. I voted for you and you voted for me, then LSB hammered us both. We both died, LSB was last man standing and won.


That was Rastaban I think. You killed me night one, at the very least you sent me a PM apologizing



Yah my mistake. I got mixed up between you two. Was a fun game though


Announces candidacy, plugs candidacy, then gets side tracked for three posts--not much of a campaign imo. Yet he was able to garner votes from Jackal58, ilovejonn, and CubEdIn. Why did you three vote for such a non-chalant candidate? Especially Jackal58 and ilovejonn, who are both lurking pretty hard-core.

Doesn't actually do much. It's like he's trying to get other people to do analysis on Deconduo without putting an opinion himself


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On December 11 2010 13:47 aidnai wrote:
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On December 11 2010 13:25 Jackal58 wrote:
Wtf is a "smurf"?
Other than the obvious little blue cartoon people?


Obvious smurf imo.

On December 11 2010 13:47 aidnai wrote:
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On December 11 2010 13:25 Jackal58 wrote:
Wtf is a "smurf"?
Other than the obvious little blue cartoon people?


Obvious smurf imo.

On December 11 2010 14:42 aidnai wrote:
Alright, we have a few smurfs.

The true identities have not been revealed so the smurf is doing its job.
The mod and players are aware that there are smurfs, so we know not to talk about the game with people outside the thread.

Can we all be happy with this? I don't think Annul should learn the identity of the smurfs, since that would give him a leg up in future games....

On December 12 2010 02:53 aidnai wrote:
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On December 11 2010 23:15 Jackal58 wrote:
On December 11 2010 13:47 aidnai wrote:
On December 11 2010 13:25 Jackal58 wrote:
Wtf is a "smurf"?
Other than the obvious little blue cartoon people?


Obvious smurf imo.

My first game. And I'm already making an impression. Scum right there folks.


'What is a smurf?' Let me try to define it for you.
- Joined TL.net november 14
- Requested access to the mafia forum november 14
- Posted nowhere else except this game

Rather than argue details about past games, here's a policy we could discuss right now: LAL.

On December 12 2010 03:13 aidnai wrote:
Ok, i'm sorry for bringing up smurfs again. Smurf or not *actually* wasn't the main point of post--it's just strange to me that an honest-to-god newbie has no other question about the game than 'what is a smurf'. He looked suspicious, so I wanted to see how/if he reacted.


This is just Aidnai trying to seem like he is active and contributing to the game, talking about a subject that doesn't matter at all


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On December 11 2010 14:50 aidnai wrote:
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On December 11 2010 14:42 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
<3 sorry I will stop with the argument! I would rather establish smurfs with alternate play styles and run with a few different accounts than constantly making new names and asking for access and jumping through all the hoops that go with that -__-;
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on topic.
vote for me if you want, I will kill LSB day one! That is my platform.

Legit, that is my platform. Upon being elected I will kill LSB, vote for me.


rofl, you're screwed lsb! unless unfortunate complications arise causing RoL to excuse himself from the game.

Actually, I really would love to hear your reasoning on this, rebirth-of-sherlock-fucking-holmes...

Question/spamish post. Not much can be gleaned

On December 12 2010 03:00 aidnai wrote:
From D1 post:

On day one, you must vote for a Minister for Magic. Note above the thirty-one eligible candidates. There are thirty-one players. Coincidence? Nope! The Minister will have no further powers beyond day one (no bodyguards, et cetera) and his only game power will be to decide the day one kill. Election will end at 7 PM EST on Sunday, December 12. The kill submission must come before 9 PM EST the same day. Vote for Minister in the voting thread.

Not much here either


Conclusion
Aidnai is mafia, trying to avoid topics and pretend to be active.
##Lynch: Aidnai



My final target would be Pandain

Please let me know who it should be so I can let annul know.
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
December 13 2010 00:12 GMT
#435
other possible targets would be ilovejohn or beneather
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
December 13 2010 00:14 GMT
#437
On December 13 2010 09:11 Thegilaboy wrote:
Will you listen to us if we want anyone other than those 3 Meapak? Or do we have to choose from that list? Just curious what your policy is

Well these people have been pretty heavily discussed, I added two other names because they were discussed as well. If you find a really good reason to lynch someone else I'll consider it but I'd like to focus our debate so we can fully analyze the situation.
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
December 13 2010 00:17 GMT
#439
On December 13 2010 09:13 orgolove wrote:
@Meapak, I voted for you. I hope you make a correct decision.

Here's my list again.

1. LSB
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On December 12 2010 09:32 LSB wrote:
On December 12 2010 09:30 Airbag wrote:
I think there is probably an easy solution

maybe RoL is a VI so if someone is elected he shouldnt be lynched. i think instead a detective role should check him. if he is a scum then build a case and if he is a village idiot make sure he is not getting lynched

i think we should vote for meapak, beneather, or someone who will go with the flow of town. i dont want a mafia to manipulate this vote so that is the best thing to do. lsb's secret vote thing is just not good and he sent me some pms that make me feel a little uncomfortable to be quite honest

What's uncomfortable about the PMs? You never responded!

I've attached it for your convenience.
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I'd rather not draw that much attention to myself...

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Original Message From LSB:
If you want, you can be the auditor.

The thing is, since I'm doing it, the mafia won't be able to slip in and and manipulate the vote.

Changing the voting record is also a problem with normal voting. All the mafia has to do is decide slightly earlier.

If you really don't like the private vote idea. (I take it the general sentiment is that they don't want it) We can do reasoned voting, or runoff voting

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Original Message From Airbag:
but if you are mafia it increases the ways in which you can manipulate the vote and it gives the mafia a long time to discuss how they'd like their voting record to look without ever having to appear wishy washy for changing it

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Original Message From LSB:
The issue is that people like to go with the bandwagon. It seems safer, and there is a false sense of security in voting with the majority.

Private votes allow each person to make their decision independently. It cuts off ways for the mafia to influence people.

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Original Message From Airbag:
I understand wanting to vote for a player with experience but you can just manipulate the votes if ur mafia

Why not just have people post their votes publicly, then it's completely impossible for you to lie about it.
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On December 12 2010 09:34 Airbag wrote:
isn't it suspicious that you omitted this part

why not?
If you are blue, I understand. If you are green, you should do it to be a meat shield for other blues.

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Original Message From Airbag:
I'd rather not draw that much attention to myself...


sounds like u want me to tell you if i am a good role or not so mafia can kill me for it?

PMs are supposed to be private. If you're going to post it

1. You better have a good reason, and
2. You better post the whole conversation without any omissions or changes.

That's the only way town can maintain its trust in PMs for it to be not posted and not manipulated to fake a red roleclaim. How can anyone who claims to be pro-town to do such a thing? This isn't a photoshop or a writing competition. If you start making up PMs, we go into a no-man's land where the reds can just laugh in the background as towns kill themselves. How can you be any redder?

The last game someone posted their full PM conversations and subtly altered them was in Haunted Mafia, by Bill Murray. We all know how that ended up.




2. RebirthOfLegend
Throughout his mayoral candidacy, he kept pushing for a decision based on his gut feelings only.
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On December 12 2010 05:11 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
I did not once say I would listen to anyone. The masses are stupid and filled with scum and scum implanted ideas.
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On December 12 2010 06:01 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
but that is effort I don't want to put into stuff! Its actually not even a hunch, I just want to kill LSB for not hitting incognito/infundiblium in TMM2.

Again, if you didn't get it:
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The masses are stupid
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Its actually not even a hunch, I just want to kill LSB

He kept pushing for this and openly said he won't be held accountable for whoever he kills.

i.e. if we chose him as our mayor and he suddenly said, just now, "Oh, I'll just kill XXX because I feel like it, ##lynch XXXX" and XXXX turns out to be blue. We can't say shit since we'd have already given him permission to kill whoever he wants. This goes against the very thing town stands for - the power of numbers over the reds.






Both players strongly give off many scum tells.


I appreciate your vote however baring massive town resistance I will not be lynching LSB or RoL. They've both mellowed out and have started posting much better and being helpful. I in no way trust them but at this point I'd rather dt check them and then learn the results and go from there.
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
December 13 2010 00:33 GMT
#452
if decon pm'd people he's pretty much not a lynch factor anymore. I'd like the town to focus on either ilovejonn or aidnai. I think most people feel pretty good about either of them I'd just like a final decision to be made so I can tell annul.
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