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/in!
Insane mafia was fun but i didnt get to do much..
i bet this will be quoted for this mafia -_-
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On November 27 2010 07:44 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On November 27 2010 07:42 kitaman27 wrote:On November 27 2010 07:39 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
well i'm already in contact with a blue role
so i'm still thinking about how to make this work. there is really no 100% foolproof safe way and in reality you want to get mafia in on the PM circle so that you can trap them easier
the best thing is that only one person will know peoples roles and if I'm telling people about what others are saying I'll refer to them only as "the medic" "the DT" etc. Am I the only one puzzled with the fact that a medic role claimed blindly to DrH without knowing his alignment? not as puzzled as me Show nested quote +Original Message From DoctorHelvetica:
i know
why would you roleclaim to me so suddenly? i wasn't even going to ask, although I guess I can give you advice. Medic is a pretty easy role I think, just go after vets/anyone who roleclaims an important role like DT unless you're really suspicious.
it's a role i always wish i would get but I never do. I think its playstyle suits me actually.
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Original Message From SOMEBODY
thats not even a role.
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Original Message From DoctorHelvetica:
cool i got dracula
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Original Message From PLAYERDUDEGUY
I got medic.
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Original Message From DoctorHelvetica:
whats up buttercup no harmful information here so feel free to analyse
Yea i dont think this is trustable 100%
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On November 28 2010 04:47 KtheZ wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2010 04:11 Coagulation wrote:
you guys are doing a fucking fantastic job of splitting the fucking votes up 10 different ways so mafia can fucking waltz right the fuck in and fucking lynch whoever the fuck they want without having to worry at all about being exposed by voting patterns.
town needs to pick 1 fucking person. and actually get information from vote numbers and reactions.
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I agree with this. It's getting a little late to keep using votes to pressure people; We should just decide on a person to lynch and go through with it. Anyone have prime candidates? I don't really see anyone except lurkers.
but the thing is, the vote is split up into us lurkers
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sorry Pandain. i voted you cause we were neck and neck
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On November 28 2010 06:40 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Alright I have to share this: Show nested quote +
Im a special townie and no interesting things in PMs
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Original Message From DoctorHelvetica:
Seriously considering voting for you. BB is a risky choice on Day 1 but I shake the feeling you're just one of those townies who fucks ups and always makes himself look kinda red.
Why did you say "I can't die"?
and did u hear anything interesting in PMs?
that's from kenpachi earlier we had this conversation: Show nested quote +DoctorHelvetica:
it'll cause mad suspicions on me dude, dta is already trying to get me lynched just cause some idiot already roleclaimed to me
i didn't get busdriver, i was kidding
i'm not telling anybody my role yet. if a DT confirms to me or something then I'll confirm it to them, but for now my lips are sealed ;o
as should yours be
if you are a DT though, i may have some advice/use for you. don't tell me if you are, just take my advice in stride when I give it if you are the DT. if you know a DT, pass it on.
i'd like to see you active in PM's in this game at least, since you don't really react much in thread
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Original Message From Kenpachi:
hey maybe you should reveal this PM in the thread to bait some scum who will try to alter this from blue or red role to confirmed red role(without my name and this reply ofc) Though, agressive players might take the bait and analyze this post like crazy.. If you feel this would cause suspicions on you, you dont have to.
Also, do some, all or none of the green townies get some random role? you got busdriver and that isnt a blue role..
BTW, idk how you got the assumption that i cant be green
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Original Message From DoctorHelvetica:
well i kno u cant be green since you said you're not miller
i wont reveal u as probable blue/red thought. you don't have to roleclaim to me if you don't want but I am going to be trying to form a town circle.
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Original Message From Kenpachi:
or i might be a special townie :D
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Original Message From DoctorHelvetica:
so ur just normal townie right
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Original Message From Kenpachi:
No.. im not the miller or a witch last time i checked (2 minutes ago)
dunno if i can believe that your a DT
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Original Message From DoctorHelvetica:
im the dt and i checked you
you're mafia :/
r u the miller? now we had this exchange: Show nested quote +
well im saying special townie because you said you were busdriver and I got the assumption that normal townies might have some role.
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Original Message From DoctorHelvetica:
I feel uncomfortable about you
why do you keep saying "special townie" role instead of blue? the only "special townies" are miller and chaos ensuant and you said you weren't the miller
so i don't know what to think right now. but if you were chaos ensuant why would you hint that to me?
So he thinks maybe he was a special townie because I knew I was "busdriver" (obvious fake claim/joke), then wouldn't he know what his special role is? He says "I can't die" as though he knows he has some important role purpose then when I ask him why he said that he says "Oh, I'm a special townie" when the only reason he was saying that was because he didn't read the rules/thread and just took what I said at face value. So Kenpachi: did u think maybe you had a special role as a townie that was hidden and secret from you? because in some of these PM's you seem pretty sure that is the case does he seriously misunderstand the rules that bad. why is he jumping from being unsure about whether or not he is special to being very sure and even using it as a case as to why he should not be lynched? kenpachi you need to explain this whole thing. order of conversations: the second quote was the first conversation we had then the first lastly the third note before the last 2 conversations I told him i was kidding about being the busdriver
well you roleclaimed busdriver and made me think thats a possibility.. I dont fully trust you so i said special townie including Blue, secret green role (ie Busdriver that you claimed, and not so sure if this is even in play) and i guess black roles..
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On November 28 2010 06:50 Coagulation wrote:
.. wait what?
so are you denying being chaos or not wtf.
Ofc im denying chaos.
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On November 28 2010 06:51 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
if you read the thread you would know there are no hidden roles. also you said at one point "i am a special townie" and connected it to your post in the voting thread that you couldn't die.
pandain suggested you might be chaos ensuant and it makes sense considering your rhetoric.
yea i read the roles but i think i got mixed up with the townie description..
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On November 28 2010 08:13 Node wrote:
As for kenpachi in particular, I'm really not comfortable with anyone whose defense is basically "I have no idea what's going on in this game".
sadly.. that isnt my defense anymore
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On November 28 2010 08:50 youngminii wrote:lol DrH, role fishing like that in a learning game, not a very cool move. Out of Kenpachi and BB who seem to be the lynch candidates (besides me kinda) I'd have to go for Kenpachi. I don't really want to vote for any of them but Kenpachi's cluelessness/reluctance to defend himself is more worrying than the reasons against BB. Sorry 
CLUELESSNESS? RELUCTANCE? ..........................................................
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On November 28 2010 09:07 Aeres wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2010 08:56 aidnai wrote:On November 28 2010 08:31 SouthRawrea wrote:I feel that youngminii at this point in time has still been inactive for unreasonable amount of time for a game barring extraordinary situations. As my vote on DTA won't seem to have any effect for this day, I will be switching my vote to this inactive.  Actually, I am switching to DTA now. Maybe your vote could have an effect. I think Deconduo might switch to DTA as well, based on his analysis below. I am voting DTA because of his confusing and spammy posting, plus his weak accusation of DrH. On November 28 2010 05:57 deconduo wrote:
Theres a lot of people voting that aren't giving explanation for their votes. Whenever you place a vote you should definitely give reasoning behind it.
My opinions on possible lynch candidates:
1) I don't have a whole lot of experience with BrownBear, but the last game I was in with him he was pretty inactive and he was mafia.
2) Pandain is active, no need to vote for him anymore imo.
3)Kenpachi is pretty nooby. He was inactive in both games he played, town in one maf in the other. Not much to go on here.
4) Don't know anything about scara, regardless he should be posting more.
5)DarthThienAn: Spammed a lot early game which I didn't like because he created confusion. Calling for medic protection, pretending to run for mayor etc. doesn't help in games when theres a lot of new people. Even some vets got confused. I've got my eye on him.
6) Youngminii seems to be a decent player, should be posting more. As such I'm changing my vote to him to pressure. Your points are valid, but at this stage in the day, your vote for DTA won't really do anything, to be honest. I'm gonna be pointing the FoS* at him starting Night 1, but I'd say you're better off voting for either BrownBear or Kenpachi right now, since it's pretty likely one of them will be lynched tonight. + Show Spoiler [For the newer players] +FoS is the Finger of Suspicion. It's a term used to indicate that the user of the term is keeping a close eye on the target. It's not meant to indicate that they should be lynched, but rather that their actions and behavior should be more closely monitored than they would be otherwise.
hello aeres. please tell me why you havent taken your vote off me?
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As a matter of fact, id like everyone before youngminii to tell me why their votes are still on..
Barunder voted me to call me out.. nothing to say so i ignored him (will probably not be back till night 1)
Protactinium voted me for being inactive.. idk i feel active now (will probably not be back till night 1)
Aeres voted me as a placeholder/inactivity (hey look im active and im no longer a placeholder because im a major suspect)
Node is a dumb bandwagoner (used outdated post to back up his bandwagoning
KtheZ voted me for voting annul for no reason? well he shouldnt care if annul isnt even a major suspect (seriously.. just waited for a hole to cover up his bandwagoning on me)
also, deconduo.. ??
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Not a single one of you have voted me cause of the PMs
btw youngminii you cant really vote me for reluctance to defend myself cause what im doing now is defend myself
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On November 28 2010 09:18 Kenpachi wrote:
Not a single one of you have voted me cause of the PMs
btw youngminii you cant really vote me for reluctance to defend myself cause what im doing now is defend myself
why did i even mention the PMs? its the only evidence that can be analyzed to direct reasonable votes on me.
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Defense on node
On November 28 2010 08:13 Node wrote:
As for kenpachi in particular, I'm really not comfortable with anyone whose defense is basically "I have no idea what's going on in this game".
I dont know how you got that assumption unless you looked this post
On November 28 2010 03:40 Kenpachi wrote:
##Vote Radfield
what the hell is going on.. i dont understand
Pg2 in voting thread
cant say i have no idea whats going on in the game after DocH revealed the PMs..
On November 28 2010 06:53 Kenpachi wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2010 06:51 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
if you read the thread you would know there are no hidden roles. also you said at one point "i am a special townie" and connected it to your post in the voting thread that you couldn't die.
pandain suggested you might be chaos ensuant and it makes sense considering your rhetoric. yea i read the roles but i think i got mixed up with the townie description..
would you not assume that i would have reread the roles?
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On November 28 2010 09:23 KtheZ wrote:Show nested quote +KtheZ voted me for voting annul for no reason? well he shouldnt care if annul isnt even a major suspect (seriously.. just waited for a hole to cover up his bandwagoning on me) Show nested quote +
I think I'll vote for kenpachi. He has not been an asset to town, so either he is being lazy or he is not trying to help town.
The other leading candidate for lynch, pandain, at least has taken the time to post analysis of some people.
I would much rather lynch a person who is not productive than a person who actively contributes.
Did you even read what I wrote?
Sorry i forgot your reasoning but i remembered it was bad
i would admit that i have never been actively contributing in any mafia game yet. But i would expect you to change your vote to BrownBear
I understand Pandain was the leading suspect at the time but please dont vote me for a reason that can go better with another person. There is so much wrong in voting me over brownbear when measuring the amount of contribution put into the thread..
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On November 28 2010 09:24 Aeres wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2010 09:10 Kenpachi wrote:On November 28 2010 09:07 Aeres wrote:On November 28 2010 08:56 aidnai wrote:On November 28 2010 08:31 SouthRawrea wrote:I feel that youngminii at this point in time has still been inactive for unreasonable amount of time for a game barring extraordinary situations. As my vote on DTA won't seem to have any effect for this day, I will be switching my vote to this inactive. Actually, I am switching to DTA now. Maybe your vote could have an effect. I think Deconduo might switch to DTA as well, based on his analysis below. I am voting DTA because of his confusing and spammy posting, plus his weak accusation of DrH. On November 28 2010 05:57 deconduo wrote:
Theres a lot of people voting that aren't giving explanation for their votes. Whenever you place a vote you should definitely give reasoning behind it.
My opinions on possible lynch candidates:
1) I don't have a whole lot of experience with BrownBear, but the last game I was in with him he was pretty inactive and he was mafia.
2) Pandain is active, no need to vote for him anymore imo.
3)Kenpachi is pretty nooby. He was inactive in both games he played, town in one maf in the other. Not much to go on here.
4) Don't know anything about scara, regardless he should be posting more.
5)DarthThienAn: Spammed a lot early game which I didn't like because he created confusion. Calling for medic protection, pretending to run for mayor etc. doesn't help in games when theres a lot of new people. Even some vets got confused. I've got my eye on him.
6) Youngminii seems to be a decent player, should be posting more. As such I'm changing my vote to him to pressure. Your points are valid, but at this stage in the day, your vote for DTA won't really do anything, to be honest. I'm gonna be pointing the FoS* at him starting Night 1, but I'd say you're better off voting for either BrownBear or Kenpachi right now, since it's pretty likely one of them will be lynched tonight. + Show Spoiler [For the newer players] +FoS is the Finger of Suspicion. It's a term used to indicate that the user of the term is keeping a close eye on the target. It's not meant to indicate that they should be lynched, but rather that their actions and behavior should be more closely monitored than they would be otherwise. hello aeres. please tell me why you havent taken your vote off me? I said my vote wasn't absolute, because I wouldn't have been able to foresee major events happening between the time of my vote and the lynching. I still think you're a prime candidate for a lynch, due in part to your past apathy and your current fishiness. The annul analysis seems most convincing in my eyes, so I would have voted for him if it weren't for the fact that it's only you and BrownBear that are viable lynchees tonight. Since I'd rather make my vote matter, and because I'm not sold on BrownBear just yet, my vote remains on you. I just realized that I've been particularly antagonistic to you in every game I've played with you. Understand, I'm not holding a grudge, but I'm just working off what I know about your behavior and tendencies. No hard feelings.
I dont understand why im more fishier than BrownBear.. Doing what i normally do every game. You should actually not suspect me if youre basing your vote on my behavior and tendency. And i voted for Annul before BrownBear because i also suspect him. Id rather have another person get lynched instead of me so i had to vote BrownBear.
and i didnt even realize you that you were going against me in every game >_>
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On November 28 2010 09:36 DarthThienAn wrote:
Kenpachi has spoken, BrownBeaer has not o.O...
Good reason to vote me. nice. very nice..
+ Show Spoiler +
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ALRIGHT. So Deconduo voted for me..
Original Message From deconduo:
If you are a blue role, you should probably claim now because theres a 50/50 chance you'll be lynched if you don't.
I'm not trying to fish for a claim or anything, I'm just pointing this out.
recently PMed me and tried to roleclaim me.. Is this your experiment?
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On November 28 2010 09:40 Kenpachi wrote:ALRIGHT. So Deconduo voted for me.. Show nested quote +Original Message From deconduo:
If you are a blue role, you should probably claim now because theres a 50/50 chance you'll be lynched if you don't.
I'm not trying to fish for a claim or anything, I'm just pointing this out. recently PMed me and tried to roleclaim me.. Is this your experiment?
yea he said hes not trying to fish but it seems like it cause you voted for me and told me that roleclaiming is helpful
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On November 28 2010 09:44 Aeres wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2010 09:37 Kenpachi wrote:On November 28 2010 09:24 Aeres wrote:On November 28 2010 09:10 Kenpachi wrote:On November 28 2010 09:07 Aeres wrote:On November 28 2010 08:56 aidnai wrote:On November 28 2010 08:31 SouthRawrea wrote:I feel that youngminii at this point in time has still been inactive for unreasonable amount of time for a game barring extraordinary situations. As my vote on DTA won't seem to have any effect for this day, I will be switching my vote to this inactive. Actually, I am switching to DTA now. Maybe your vote could have an effect. I think Deconduo might switch to DTA as well, based on his analysis below. I am voting DTA because of his confusing and spammy posting, plus his weak accusation of DrH. On November 28 2010 05:57 deconduo wrote:
Theres a lot of people voting that aren't giving explanation for their votes. Whenever you place a vote you should definitely give reasoning behind it.
My opinions on possible lynch candidates:
1) I don't have a whole lot of experience with BrownBear, but the last game I was in with him he was pretty inactive and he was mafia.
2) Pandain is active, no need to vote for him anymore imo.
3)Kenpachi is pretty nooby. He was inactive in both games he played, town in one maf in the other. Not much to go on here.
4) Don't know anything about scara, regardless he should be posting more.
5)DarthThienAn: Spammed a lot early game which I didn't like because he created confusion. Calling for medic protection, pretending to run for mayor etc. doesn't help in games when theres a lot of new people. Even some vets got confused. I've got my eye on him.
6) Youngminii seems to be a decent player, should be posting more. As such I'm changing my vote to him to pressure. Your points are valid, but at this stage in the day, your vote for DTA won't really do anything, to be honest. I'm gonna be pointing the FoS* at him starting Night 1, but I'd say you're better off voting for either BrownBear or Kenpachi right now, since it's pretty likely one of them will be lynched tonight. + Show Spoiler [For the newer players] +FoS is the Finger of Suspicion. It's a term used to indicate that the user of the term is keeping a close eye on the target. It's not meant to indicate that they should be lynched, but rather that their actions and behavior should be more closely monitored than they would be otherwise. hello aeres. please tell me why you havent taken your vote off me? I said my vote wasn't absolute, because I wouldn't have been able to foresee major events happening between the time of my vote and the lynching. I still think you're a prime candidate for a lynch, due in part to your past apathy and your current fishiness. The annul analysis seems most convincing in my eyes, so I would have voted for him if it weren't for the fact that it's only you and BrownBear that are viable lynchees tonight. Since I'd rather make my vote matter, and because I'm not sold on BrownBear just yet, my vote remains on you. I just realized that I've been particularly antagonistic to you in every game I've played with you. Understand, I'm not holding a grudge, but I'm just working off what I know about your behavior and tendencies. No hard feelings. I dont understand why im more fishier than BrownBear.. Doing what i normally do every game. You should actually not suspect me if youre basing your vote on my behavior and tendency. And i voted for Annul before BrownBear because i also suspect him. Id rather have another person get lynched instead of me so i had to vote BrownBear. If I may be candid, it's not that I think you're Mafia, it's that I felt you were a liability regardless of your alignment. If you ARE Mafia, then lynching you is obviously a thumbs up for the town, but based on my past observations of your play, your town game is... lacking. But... you have a point there. I've decided to be a gentleman and give you the benefit of the doubt. Your posting frequency and quality have definitely improved from Haunted, so I'll let you off the hook. My vote will be changed to BrownBear now. But now the onus is on you. Convince me that this vote switch is warranted, and prove to me that you're not the couch potato you were in October! =D Show nested quote +and i didnt even realize you that you were going against me in every game >_> ... whoops. *hides*
alright! i appreciate you believing me 
Also, we have to know what Deconduo is attempting with his experiment.. He pmed me and i said i can defend myself.. dunno if that was to mindfuck me or what
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