• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 07:25
CEST 13:25
KST 20:25
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Classic wins Code S Season 2 (2025)10Code S RO4 & Finals Preview: herO, Rogue, Classic, GuMiho0TL Team Map Contest #5: Presented by Monster Energy5Code S RO8 Preview: herO, Zoun, Bunny, Classic7Code S RO8 Preview: Rogue, GuMiho, Solar, Maru3
Community News
Weekly Cups (June 9-15): herO doubles on GSL week2Firefly suspended by EWC, replaced by Lancer12Classic & herO RO8 Interviews: "I think it’s time to teach [Rogue] a lesson."2Rogue & GuMiho RO8 interviews: "Lifting that trophy would be a testament to all I’ve had to overcome over the years and how far I’ve come on this journey.8Code S RO8 Results + RO4 Bracket (2025 Season 2)14
StarCraft 2
General
The SCII GOAT: A statistical Evaluation TL Team Map Contest #5: Presented by Monster Energy Weekly Cups (June 9-15): herO doubles on GSL week The Memories We Share - Facing the Final(?) GSL Nexon wins bid to develop StarCraft IP content, distribute Overwatch mobile game
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series $5,100+ SEL Season 2 Championship (SC: Evo) SOOPer7s Showmatches 2025 SOOP Starcraft Global #22
Strategy
How did i lose this ZvP, whats the proper response Simple Questions Simple Answers [G] Darkgrid Layout
Custom Maps
[UMS] Zillion Zerglings
External Content
Mutation # 478 Instant Karma Mutation # 477 Slow and Steady Mutation # 476 Charnel House Mutation # 475 Hard Target
Brood War
General
ASL20 Preliminary Maps BW General Discussion FlaSh Witnesses SCV Pull Off the Impossible vs Shu BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Recent recommended BW games
Tourneys
Small VOD Thread 2.0 [BSL20] GosuLeague RO16 - Tue & Wed 20:00+CET [BSL20] ProLeague Bracket Stage - WB Finals & LBR3 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers I am doing this better than progamers do. [G] How to get started on ladder as a new Z player
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile Beyond All Reason What do you want from future RTS games?
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine US Politics Mega-thread UK Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Echoes of Revolution and Separation
Fan Clubs
SKT1 Classic Fan Club! Maru Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Korean Music Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 NHL Playoffs 2024 Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
A Better Routine For Progame…
TrAiDoS
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Heero Yuy & the Tax…
KrillinFromwales
I was completely wrong ab…
jameswatts
Need Your Help/Advice
Glider
Trip to the Zoo
micronesia
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 4933 users

[SPL] KT Rolster vs. Woongjin Stars

Forum Index > Brood War Tournaments
Post a Reply
1 2 3 4 5 29 30 31 Next All
mustaju
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Estonia4504 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-10 11:59:48
November 09 2010 19:04 GMT
#1
[image loading]
banner by mustaju

Wednesday, November 10th 2010, 13:00 KST, Channel MBCGame



[image loading]      [image loading]
[image loading]KT Rolster vs Woongjin Stars[image loading]


Personal predictions:
(with spoilers from previous matches)

+ Show Spoiler +

Curses! Another prediction failed. I could do some kind of self-reflection, but duty calls way too soon, and this match is probably the most important I've ever made a thread on with the possible exception of KT vs. STX.
First, lets look at the maps.
Set 1: < Empire of the Sun >
Set 2: < Grand Line SE >
Set 3: < Circuit Breaker >
Set 4: < Aztec >
Set 5: < Fortress >
Set 6: < Benzene >
Ace Match: < Central Plains >

You might notice that there is no Icarus, but even more importantly, the Ace match is on the PvP heaven Central Plains. While forGG continues to be played on Fortress, no other map specific players can be noted, but Grand Line SE usually delivers big scale TvT-s or TvP-s. So, depending on whether Stars decide to snipe Flash or to avoid him, Grand Line SE and Benzene are probably the best maps to do so. Really could also potentially be sniped by Action on those maps, but Aztec might turn out to be an epic PvP this time around, considering the maps current stats.

As I am TL's resident Kim Carrier apparently, lets start off with the prediction that Woongjin Stars will win if it doesn't go to ace, and KT rolster have a slightly better chance to win if it does. Since that is not a proper prediction, I'll predict stars to have an advantage. Violet, fOrGG, and Action don't feel as solid as the Stars lineup, and while Really and flying have problems of their own, the shortcomings don't feel as severe because there is less pressure on them. Therefore I think that it will be at least difficult to reach an ACE match, and unlike any other ACE match, KT is not as strongly favored, because Stars pretty much expect Stats and Free can practise accordingly. So, in total
Stars win either 4-2 or 4-3. + Show Spoiler +
Please don't kill me, stars fans/swanized..







[image loading]

+ Show Spoiler +
KT Rolster vs Woongjin Stars


Set 1: (Z)HoeJJa < Empire of the Sun > (Z)ZerO
Set 2: (T)Flash < Grand Line SE > (Z)Neo.G_Soulkey
Set 3: (T)fOrGG < Circuit Breaker > (T)Really
Set 4: (P)Tempest < Aztec > (P)free
Set 5: (P)Stats < Fortress > (T)SaiR
Set 6: (Z)Action < Benzene > (T)PianO
Ace Match: < Central Plains >




[image loading]
+ Show Spoiler +
KT Rolster vs Woongjin Stars


Set 1: (Z)HoeJJa < Empire of the Sun > (Z)ZerO
Set 2: (T)Flash < Grand Line SE > (Z)Neo.G_Soulkey
Set 3: (T)fOrGG < Circuit Breaker > (T)Really
Set 4: (P)Tempest < Aztec > (P)free
Set 5: (P)Stats < Fortress > (T)SaiR
Set 6: (Z)Action < Benzene > (T)PianO
Ace Match: < Central Plains >

[image loading]KT Rolster 2-4 Woongjin Stars[image loading]


Woongjin Stars wins 4-2!





[image loading]

+ Show Spoiler +

+ Show Spoiler [Game 1] +
Poll: Would you recommend game 1?

HELL YES! (43)
 
77%

Yes (13)
 
23%

No (0)
 
0%

Check it out if you have time. (0)
 
0%

56 total votes

Your vote: Would you recommend game 1?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): Check it out if you have time.
(Vote): HELL YES!


+ Show Spoiler [Game 2] +
Poll: Would you recommend game 2?

Yes (27)
 
44%

No (23)
 
38%

Check it out if you have time. (11)
 
18%

61 total votes

Your vote: Would you recommend game 2?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): Check it out if you have time.


+ Show Spoiler [Game 3] +
Poll: Would you recommend game 3?

No (15)
 
68%

Yes (6)
 
27%

Check it out if you have time. (1)
 
5%

22 total votes

Your vote: Would you recommend game 3?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): Check it out if you have time.


+ Show Spoiler [Game 4] +
Poll: Would you recommend game 4?

Yes (49)
 
94%

No (3)
 
6%

Check it out if you have time. (0)
 
0%

52 total votes

Your vote: Would you recommend game 4?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): Check it out if you have time.


+ Show Spoiler [Game 5] +
Poll: Would you recommend game 5?

Check it out if you have time. (18)
 
64%

No (6)
 
21%

Yes (4)
 
14%

28 total votes

Your vote: Would you recommend game 5?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): Check it out if you have time.


+ Show Spoiler [Game 6] +
Poll: Would you recommend game 6?

No (24)
 
62%

Yes (10)
 
26%

Check it out if you have time. (5)
 
13%

39 total votes

Your vote: Would you recommend game 6?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): Check it out if you have time.


+ Show Spoiler [Ace Match] +




How to Watch:
Post your stream links here and I'll add them as soon as I see them or PM them to me.

Grobyc!
Roffles!!

Winners interview!

by the amazing OpticalShot

HYPE:

[image loading]
The Why-Pie squadron
versus
[image loading]
The Chemical Brotherhood

Images from fomos.kr
WriterBrows somewhat high. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndFysO2JunE
mustaju
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Estonia4504 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-10 06:46:56
November 09 2010 19:06 GMT
#2
Personal recommendations:
unplayed games will be given a random description to avoid spoilers.
+ Show Spoiler [Game 1] +
I thought this game was over and boring. Then I saw spore colonies. Boy was I wrong. Watch this right now.

+ Show Spoiler [Game 2] +
Great micro and brilliant break. A definite yes from me, whatever the others voted.

+ Show Spoiler [Game 3] +
Good defense, but overall, not really.

+ Show Spoiler [Game 4] +
What an excellent PvP. More storms than you can go around with, and some really pimp play from both players. Highly recommended.

+ Show Spoiler [Game 5] +
Average TvP. Not really worthy of a recommendation except for the battle at the very end.

+ Show Spoiler [Game 6] +
Great aggressive play. Check it out if you have time.

+ Show Spoiler [Game 7] +


Poll: Who are you rooting for?

Woongjin Stars. Neo.G_Bonjiwa will succeed again. (31)
 
63%

KT Rolster. Manly defenders of the title (18)
 
37%

49 total votes

Your vote: Who are you rooting for?

(Vote): KT Rolster. Manly defenders of the title
(Vote): Woongjin Stars. Neo.G_Bonjiwa will succeed again.


Poll: Who will win?

KT Rolster (25)
 
41%

Woongjin Stars (25)
 
41%

I'm not in the mood for predictions, but I still want to press a button. (11)
 
18%

61 total votes

Your vote: Who will win?

(Vote): KT Rolster
(Vote): Woongjin Stars
(Vote): I'm not in the mood for predictions, but I still want to press a button.

WriterBrows somewhat high. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndFysO2JunE
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
November 09 2010 19:07 GMT
#3
Nice banner :O Neo G soulkey and zero, the glass zergs will be fun to watch crumble at the hands of stats and flash :D
In the woods, there lurks..
mustaju
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Estonia4504 Posts
November 09 2010 19:37 GMT
#4
On November 10 2010 04:07 Iplaythings wrote:
Nice banner :O Neo G soulkey and zero, the glass zergs will be fun to watch crumble at the hands of stats and flash :D

Thanks.
WriterBrows somewhat high. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndFysO2JunE
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
November 09 2010 19:45 GMT
#5
Should be plenty of cool games here. ^__^ I want to see Flash vs Soulkey.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
Slow Motion
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6960 Posts
November 09 2010 19:47 GMT
#6
If free, soulkey, zero, and really can dodge flash then Stars win for sure. If not this should be close.
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
November 09 2010 19:58 GMT
#7
On November 10 2010 04:45 Holgerius wrote:
Should be plenty of cool games here. ^__^ I want to see Flash vs Soulkey.


I want to see free vs Flash on Central Plains
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
KizZBG
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
u gotta skate8152 Posts
November 09 2010 20:04 GMT
#8
[image loading]

but FFS, watching PL in the UK is not very convenient... 5AM.

Poll: Should I wake up at 5AM to watch?

r u cereal? yes (11)
 
48%

Yes (6)
 
26%

No (6)
 
26%

23 total votes

Your vote: Should I wake up at 5AM to watch?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): r u cereal? yes
(Vote): No



lol
eSTRO for life | #2 Sea.Really fan! | #1 GosI[Flying] fan! | Clide - best SC2 terran!
mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
November 09 2010 20:16 GMT
#9
Soulkey fighting!!!
JD, Stork, Calm, Hyuk Fighting!
mustaju
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Estonia4504 Posts
November 09 2010 21:33 GMT
#10
@KizZBg - I usually wake up at 6 a.m., but then again, I might have a slightly less strict schedule than you do. :D
WriterBrows somewhat high. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndFysO2JunE
Rkie
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States1278 Posts
November 09 2010 21:54 GMT
#11
come on stars! Free, Zero, Soulkey, and Piano are gonna take this. Woonjin has a very strong set of 4 or 5 players, i really think they have the potential to win PL this year.
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
November 09 2010 21:56 GMT
#12
On November 10 2010 06:54 Rkie wrote:
come on stars! Free, Zero, Soulkey, and Piano are gonna take this. Woonjin has a very strong set of 4 or 5 players, i really think they have the potential to win PL this year.


lol you use strong set of players and Piano in the same sentence

I agree with the other three, but Piano is nothing lol. And Really is too inconsistent.
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
Wings
Profile Joined January 2010
United States999 Posts
November 09 2010 22:06 GMT
#13
I LIKE KT'S HAIRSTYLES

Woongjin's hairstyles, on the other hand... JUST NO.

KT VOTE.

Mafiazerg going to tear things up.
The probability of Kim Carrier getting all those predictions wrong is similar to the probability Flash loses a TvT. Kim Carrier MUST BE a genius. His only big mistake... STORK.
kamikami
Profile Joined November 2010
France1057 Posts
November 09 2010 22:25 GMT
#14
Let's see... Stars have Free, Zero and the new hope of Zerg, Soulkey.
But KT has Stats, ForGG, Action, and the Fifth Bonjwa.
This will be a close one, but eventually KT will win due to the power of the turtle god.
Khassar de Templari
swanized
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Canada2480 Posts
November 09 2010 22:28 GMT
#15
stars of course


Soulkey is way too good

zero is way too good
Writer
Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
November 09 2010 22:30 GMT
#16
Hoping for something awesome to happen.
But either KTFlash will happen or KT takes this when the Stars aces choke.
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
Al Bundy
Profile Joined April 2010
7257 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-09 22:36:33
November 09 2010 22:36 GMT
#17
I've been waiting for this match for a long time... I love this season's Stars team, but not as much as I love KT (and Flash!)
If you remember what Soulkey said in an recent interview,
>Soulkey: It wasn't so much the maps as my grasp of ZvT. Next time we play KT, I hope to face up against Flash, but it doesn't really matter who I play. [T/N unsure of that last part]

flash vs soulkey could indeed be very entertaining
o choro é livre
Kyuukyuu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada6263 Posts
November 09 2010 22:36 GMT
#18
As long as we don't lose in the ace. ACE CURSE BROKEN LAST TIME OKAY STARS? DON'T DO IT EVER AGAIN
kamikami
Profile Joined November 2010
France1057 Posts
November 09 2010 22:42 GMT
#19
On November 10 2010 07:36 AlBundy wrote:
I've been waiting for this match for a long time... I love this season's Stars team, but not as much as I love KT (and Flash!)
If you remember what Soulkey said in an recent interview,
Show nested quote +
>Soulkey: It wasn't so much the maps as my grasp of ZvT. Next time we play KT, I hope to face up against Flash, but it doesn't really matter who I play. [T/N unsure of that last part]

flash vs soulkey could indeed be very entertaining


It is interesting to note that Soulkey has recently beaten Fantasy and Sea, who are the 2nd and 3rd best Terran in the world. With those wins he is qualified to enter the Turtle temple and face the God himself.

I'm sure if they have the chance to play each other it will be a very interesting match.



Khassar de Templari
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
November 09 2010 22:55 GMT
#20
On November 10 2010 04:58 SuperArc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2010 04:45 Holgerius wrote:
Should be plenty of cool games here. ^__^ I want to see Flash vs Soulkey.


I want to see free vs Flash on Central Plains

Massive map imba - the only way Free could stand a chance vs Flash. Oh, and proxy 2 Gate vs Proxy Rax too I guess. But ya, it could be a really cool game. ^__^ There are so many potentially awesome match-ups between these teams.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
1 2 3 4 5 29 30 31 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
RSL Revival
10:00
Season 1: Group D
Reynor vs ClassicLIVE!
Scarlett vs ShoWTimE
Tasteless918
ComeBackTV 720
IndyStarCraft 179
Rex112
IntoTheiNu 35
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Tasteless 918
IndyStarCraft 179
Harstem 163
Rex 112
Creator 28
StarCraft: Brood War
Sea 17585
Britney 15254
Calm 7261
Rain 5929
Bisu 1925
Horang2 1411
Hyuk 650
Pusan 622
actioN 370
910 277
[ Show more ]
Shuttle 184
EffOrt 153
Mini 150
Leta 137
PianO 88
Soulkey 67
ToSsGirL 60
ZerO 58
sas.Sziky 42
Aegong 36
NaDa 22
Barracks 21
Stork 21
Icarus 19
soO 18
Movie 17
Sacsri 15
SilentControl 11
IntoTheRainbow 11
[sc1f]eonzerg 10
ivOry 9
Free 8
TY 8
Dota 2
XaKoH 569
XcaliburYe458
PGG 170
febbydoto24
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K977
shoxiejesuss849
Other Games
singsing2977
B2W.Neo381
C9.Mang0370
DeMusliM317
Lowko125
RotterdaM104
Mew2King80
ArmadaUGS59
SortOf56
Trikslyr20
ZerO(Twitch)7
Organizations
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 21
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 12 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH273
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Stunt597
Upcoming Events
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
3h 35m
OSC
7h 35m
Replay Cast
14h 35m
SOOP
21h 35m
Cure vs Zoun
SC Evo League
1d
Road to EWC
1d 2h
SOOP Global
1d 3h
FuturE vs MaNa
Harstem vs Cham
BSL: ProLeague
1d 6h
Sziky vs JDConan
Cross vs MadiNho
Hawk vs Bonyth
Circuito Brasileiro de…
1d 8h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 22h
[ Show More ]
Road to EWC
2 days
BSL: ProLeague
2 days
UltrA vs TBD
Dewalt vs TBD
Replay Cast
3 days
Replay Cast
5 days
The PondCast
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Acropolis #3 - GSC
2025 GSL S2
Heroes 10 EU

Ongoing

JPL Season 2
BSL 2v2 Season 3
BSL Season 20
Acropolis #3
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 2
NPSL S3
Rose Open S1
CSL 17: 2025 SUMMER
Copa Latinoamericana 4
RSL Revival: Season 1
Murky Cup #2
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025
PGL Astana 2025
Asian Champions League '25
BLAST Rivals Spring 2025
MESA Nomadic Masters
CCT Season 2 Global Finals
IEM Melbourne 2025
YaLLa Compass Qatar 2025
PGL Bucharest 2025

Upcoming

NPSL Lushan
CSLPRO Last Chance 2025
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
K-Championship
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
SEL Season 2 Championship
Esports World Cup 2025
HSC XXVII
Championship of Russia 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.