On October 29 2010 09:37 NB wrote:
my opinion on who should get to be major:
if Mr.A is major, after that night he still survive => he must be mafia => got lynched on the next day
in another word voting for major is like voting for someone who should die in the next day.
Noticed that if the major is just town, Mafia could easily kill him on day 1 no problem :3....

Also i wana confirm: after 1 major die, could we vote for a new one or we just move on without 1?... i love the idea of voting for a new one.

I'm pretty sure mafia can't kill mayor until the bodygaurds are dead. However, the mayor can be lynched.

Misder

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October 29 2010 00:47 GMT

#162

Along with buma, keep in mind that this is not a typical mafia game. Read your PM role carefully to make sure there isn't something different about youre role and a typical mafia game role.

Misder

United States1557 Posts

October 29 2010 01:02 GMT

#178

Since we're all blue (well, the town is), won't it be difficult for the mafia to know who to focus down, esp since they don't even know what roles there are? I'm just questioning since even if you role claim, it doesn't really do anything bad for the town.

I'd actually argue the other way. If we all role claim, we are able to check what other people do during the night action and see if it fits into their role. Also, the mafia won't know what roles there are, so their going to have to make their roles up. The biggest flaw in this is that then, the mafia will know what roles there are and who they are, but if we are able to weed the mafia out fast enough, its an easy town victory.

Misder

United States1557 Posts

October 29 2010 01:05 GMT

#180

On murrayitis: One of my biggest concerns is that murrayitis is "highly contagious" (according to Artanis post). This suggests that if you are infected, any night action you do that involves going somewhere else will probably infect that other person.

Misder

United States1557 Posts

October 29 2010 01:12 GMT

#184

Ok, so this is how I think mafia kp is set up- mafia can hit 2 people normally, just like any regular mafia game. then, there is one mafia member who can infect 1 person with murrayitis.

I'm a bit confused on your earlier post on murrayitis. So is it that once infected, the person dies the next night, kind of like the poison from a poisoner?

Misder

United States1557 Posts

October 29 2010 01:13 GMT

#185

God dang it. DH beats me in everything...

Misder

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October 29 2010 01:38 GMT

#195

Pandain, what can you provide as the mayor that you couldn't provide as what you are now?

Misder

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October 29 2010 01:43 GMT

#198

So I only heard from DH about the mass roleclaiming idea. To me, I feel that its more advantagious to the town than it is disadvantagious, but I want to hear from more of you guys about it.

Misder

United States1557 Posts

October 29 2010 02:02 GMT

#202

Now that I think about it, I'm more unsure about the mass roleclaiming thing I suggested. My main concern is that there isn't a concrete way to confirm anyone. And, as Fishball stated, nothing is preventing the mafia from making roles up that have passive abilities, or claim vigi.

Misder

United States1557 Posts

October 30 2010 04:23 GMT

#733

Ok, after reading through the thread, I'm leaning towards voting for DrH, and will vote for him as of right now.

1. If DrH is mafia, it will be able to tell. He provides so much about his role that its impossible to retract, or even fit under the role while being mafia.
If we believe everything that DrH said, he is able to coordinate town. Although he may not be able to PM, if there is a role that allows for the extension of PMing (masons?), he can coordinate even better.
It might even be good that DrH can't PM- everything he does will be done in this thread, and he can be closely examined.

(The only concern I have is that DrH is pretty good at manipulation- but I feel that he won't be able to backtrack what he said, and it will be easy to find inconsistencies in his posts)

2. There may as well be a doctor (or even better, a plague doctor) in the circle to protect him, which will basically provide the same thing as bodyguards.
If Fishball is mafia, he already has a lot of power. He can manipulate the circle probably really easily, esp since according to him, the majority is inactive, and if they decide to come back, it is easy for them just to listen to Fishball and do whatever he says.
We don't know what Fishball can do. He claims his role is of utmost importance, but isn't able to tell us what that role actually is.

3. I feel that Pandain won't be able to provide anything as mayor. He hasn't put out a plan yet; and probably can't do anything proactive with his role.
As people stated earlier, Pandain is transparent. Which is good to check on Pandain, but would be a waste of a Mayor.
Hes not the best scum hunter I've ever known... I'll leave it like that.
The only reason I'd even consider voting for Pandain is if I was a super afraid person of experienced players that are mafia taking the mayor role.

People I'm concerned with:
Coagulation- I don't think I've read a good post by him yet.
Glasse- comes out of nowhere, and states that he can't be killed? And tries to take the mayor role? Why would anyone with the role of being not able to be killed want even more protection?
Ace- Well, I don't really have anything against him. It's just that I've never seen him play, but I've heard hes good and hes a veteran player- so I'm wary.

Circle Claiming-
I don't think the circle should claim to the thread yet; I don't really think I have a reason on this, except that I feel that its risky. If this circle is pure town- its the only form of communication town has that is known right now. Giving mafia the members makes it easy to break the circle up.
One thing to consider though- It's very likely that mafia is in this circle, so other mafia will know who is in this circle and what they are talking about. This gives an advantage to the mafia. The mafia knows whos in the circle and the town doesn't, that sets the town really behind because the town won't know who is able to PM etc.

Hopefully this is enough to only have 1 post today (in real life time)...

Misder

United States1557 Posts

October 30 2010 06:56 GMT

#824

I'm taking my vote off of DrH and putting it on Fishball.
After all the WIFOM talk, theres one more thing to consider. If DrH was mafia, he could claim that he poked another mafia player, who has the ability to detect who follows him. So when the plague doctors go to "confirm" DrH, mafia is getting a list of all of the plague doctors.
Fishball seems less dangerous compared to what DrH can do if hes mafia. Fishball has to be able to stay consistent in the PMs in the circle and in the thread, and we will be able to check on him in two ways, especially with his activity level.

Misder

United States1557 Posts

October 31 2010 01:29 GMT

#1130

Well, if youngminii survived the lynch... I would say that he needs to roleclaim or we get a dt to check him. If its a blue role that avoids lynching- he needs to say so now and I feel a complete roleclaim is necessary from him. And even if he says hes blue- dt should check him.
Him being mafia would probably be a bit OP since then the only way that young could die would be by vig hit or another town KP role (unless he can only avoid lynching once...)- either way, young should be scrutinized.

Misder

United States1557 Posts

October 31 2010 01:33 GMT

#1132

Is the bodygaurd's only extra function to prevent any mafia hits on the mayor?

Misder

United States1557 Posts

October 31 2010 14:23 GMT

#1231

But youngminii knows why he didn't get lynched, right? Wouldn't it be more benefitial to the town if young told us if this was a one time thing or a permanent thing for avoiding a lynch? If he doesn't tell us, town lacks the information, and because of how young has been posting, we may consider another day to lynch him. But that would be a waste of time if young is immune. I'd say young is most likely mafia if he doesn't answer whether or not this was one time or permanent or multiple.

So young, how often can you dodge a lynch (one time, multiple times, permanently, etc.)?

Misder

United States1557 Posts

October 31 2010 16:19 GMT

#1243

I'm pretty sure that DC didn't roleclaim bodygaurd. I think his role has something to do with knowing what each role does; at least that was what I got out of it. Maybe he is bodygaurd, but I'm pretty sure DC is smart enough to spoil it to the mafia.

Misder

United States1557 Posts

October 31 2010 22:37 GMT

#1369

@Ace
I didn't try fishing out his entire role. I am just seeing if he knows if he can dodge lynches, and if so how many. I thought it was beneficial to town, as we would understand more of the game mechanics + reason why the young lynch didn't go through + future reference if we decide to lynch young again.
That being said, I'm not afraid of being checked. I would almost encourage it.

@Lexpar's post
Hmmm... Everyone is negative about this post, and so am I. But maybe its part of his role; or something happened between the two. Pretty much unlikely, as that would mean that his role is able to PM or that his role is shown to the mayor, but its insane mafia. Clarify please, Lexpar,

Misder

United States1557 Posts

October 31 2010 23:34 GMT

#1460

On November 01 2010 08:29 Node wrote:
I'm mostly worried about the presence of a suicide bomber in the game, but I suppose I can't do much else seeing as I'm not in a PM circle.

DCLXVI is going to die tonight.

Is this for certain? Do you know how hes going to die? Is it possible for a doctor or a medic or whatever role its called in this game to protect him so he doesn't die?

Misder

United States1557 Posts

October 31 2010 23:49 GMT

#1481

So three people died tonight, Remember that one post of Artanis where he said that mafia has 2+1 KP? That must mean that mafia had access to that extra 1 KP. Whether or not that can be accessed every day, we do not know (it might be that they can only have extra every other day or something like that), but maybe we can find out what role that gains that extra 1 KP. I think its the Giant Potato, but its hard to tell in the night post.

On November 01 2010 08:19 infinitestory wrote:

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I'm pretty sure both bolded parts are the describing Annul and his death. So someone switched places with him (kidnapped?). I think we have to be careful of the guy who switched places with him. If we get any references to similar activities between one person and Annul, we can almost gaurantee that that person is mafia.