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Citizens of Insania,
I would like to announce my candidacy for mayor. In light of recent events, most importantly the town's development of many new powers, a new system of government must emerge to quell the chaos that is this town. It has come to our attention that the local mafia has begun to exploit their new abilities and are now aiming for total control of this fine community. In order to successfully repel them, a properly organized inner circle of supertownies must be established. This new circle needs leadership and commitment, and I believe I am the man for the job.
Vote for Order! Vote Hyperbola!
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On October 29 2010 08:29 bumatlarge wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2010 07:47 Hyperbola wrote:
Citizens of Insania,
I would like to announce my candidacy for mayor. In light of recent events, most importantly the town's development of many new powers, a new system of government must emerge to quell the chaos that is this town. It has come to our attention that the local mafia has begun to exploit their new abilities and are now aiming for total control of this fine community. In order to successfully repel them, a properly organized inner circle of supertownies must be established. This new circle needs leadership and commitment, and I believe I am the man for the job.
Vote for Order! Vote Hyperbola! Show nested quote +On October 29 2010 07:49 CubEdIn wrote:
*heads to the voting thread to vote for Hyperbola*
*giggles* See, this is bad, we can't have this. Look how much nonsense he spouted. No of that means anything. IT MEANS NOTHING. Then this dude just votes for him? Sorry charlie not having it. You need to be voting for me. If I am not voed in, I will be  Then I will become a Pandain/BM (without the getting modkilled part) and just bug everyone. But if I am! I will be :D Everything will go under my scrutinizer eye and no one will get any biased treatment. Except for maybe Ace, who I owe some respect for that penalty mafia game. He's allowed to do his own thing and not vote for me.
An interesting strategy. You call me out on my magnificent speech and then proceed to say almost nothing yourself. Then you direct attention away from yourself and give the illusion of trying to help town by saying random things about the game. I don't think Cube was being serious when he posted that, but I however, was.
I am very adept at organization and strategic play. Although I may have not been in as many mafia games and tend to stay quiet, I can still manage a team and have done so in games I was mafia in. The same skills can apply to town if we are able to sort out who's who and create a legitimate town circle. Furthermore, I am very adept at sorting out what's what's legitimate and what's bullshit. Unless there are some specific roles which may overcome my keen eye, I can guarantee you that there will be NO leaks in the town circle if I am voted mayor.
As for the issue of whether I am mafia or not... you can be damn well sure that the first person to announce their candidacy for mayor as I did had better be really fucking good at defending themselves from clues if they're mafia. Other than that fact, I cannot guarantee anything. But that is what most elections are: a leap of faith.
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On October 29 2010 09:58 bumatlarge wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2010 09:45 Hyperbola wrote:On October 29 2010 08:29 bumatlarge wrote:On October 29 2010 07:47 Hyperbola wrote:
Citizens of Insania,
I would like to announce my candidacy for mayor. In light of recent events, most importantly the town's development of many new powers, a new system of government must emerge to quell the chaos that is this town. It has come to our attention that the local mafia has begun to exploit their new abilities and are now aiming for total control of this fine community. In order to successfully repel them, a properly organized inner circle of supertownies must be established. This new circle needs leadership and commitment, and I believe I am the man for the job.
Vote for Order! Vote Hyperbola! On October 29 2010 07:49 CubEdIn wrote:
*heads to the voting thread to vote for Hyperbola*
*giggles* See, this is bad, we can't have this. Look how much nonsense he spouted. No of that means anything. IT MEANS NOTHING. Then this dude just votes for him? Sorry charlie not having it. You need to be voting for me. If I am not voed in, I will be Then I will become a Pandain/BM (without the getting modkilled part) and just bug everyone. But if I am! I will be :D Everything will go under my scrutinizer eye and no one will get any biased treatment. Except for maybe Ace, who I owe some respect for that penalty mafia game. He's allowed to do his own thing and not vote for me. An interesting strategy. You call me out on my magnificent speech and then proceed to say almost nothing yourself. Then you direct attention away from yourself and give the illusion of trying to help town by saying random things about the game. I don't think Cube was being serious when he posted that, but I however, was. I am very adept at organization and strategic play. Although I may have not been in as many mafia games and tend to stay quiet, I can still manage a team and have done so in games I was mafia in. The same skills can apply to town if we are able to sort out who's who and create a legitimate town circle. Furthermore, I am very adept at sorting out what's what's legitimate and what's bullshit. Unless there are some specific roles which may overcome my keen eye, I can guarantee you that there will be NO leaks in the town circle if I am voted mayor. As for the issue of whether I am mafia or not... you can be damn well sure that the first person to announce their candidacy for mayor as I did had better be really fucking good at defending themselves from clues if they're mafia. Other than that fact, I cannot guarantee anything. But that is what most elections are: a leap of faith. I'm curious how you would go about forming a town circle. Considering the PM rules. And there are no clues in this game, unless you mean something else like slip-ups. It seems for someone claiming they have such a keen-eye, you don't read the OP very well. I don't think this makes you scummy, you just don't stand out as an experienced player if we put aside how smart you will be as mayor.
Psha. It appears it is you who did not read the first post very well. Did you forget about the existence of irc or other forums? Town circles are not limited to the teamliquid forum and can be carried out elsewhere.
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On October 29 2010 10:16 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2010 10:15 Hyperbola wrote:On October 29 2010 09:58 bumatlarge wrote:On October 29 2010 09:45 Hyperbola wrote:On October 29 2010 08:29 bumatlarge wrote:On October 29 2010 07:47 Hyperbola wrote:
Citizens of Insania,
I would like to announce my candidacy for mayor. In light of recent events, most importantly the town's development of many new powers, a new system of government must emerge to quell the chaos that is this town. It has come to our attention that the local mafia has begun to exploit their new abilities and are now aiming for total control of this fine community. In order to successfully repel them, a properly organized inner circle of supertownies must be established. This new circle needs leadership and commitment, and I believe I am the man for the job.
Vote for Order! Vote Hyperbola! On October 29 2010 07:49 CubEdIn wrote:
*heads to the voting thread to vote for Hyperbola*
*giggles* See, this is bad, we can't have this. Look how much nonsense he spouted. No of that means anything. IT MEANS NOTHING. Then this dude just votes for him? Sorry charlie not having it. You need to be voting for me. If I am not voed in, I will be Then I will become a Pandain/BM (without the getting modkilled part) and just bug everyone. But if I am! I will be :D Everything will go under my scrutinizer eye and no one will get any biased treatment. Except for maybe Ace, who I owe some respect for that penalty mafia game. He's allowed to do his own thing and not vote for me. An interesting strategy. You call me out on my magnificent speech and then proceed to say almost nothing yourself. Then you direct attention away from yourself and give the illusion of trying to help town by saying random things about the game. I don't think Cube was being serious when he posted that, but I however, was. I am very adept at organization and strategic play. Although I may have not been in as many mafia games and tend to stay quiet, I can still manage a team and have done so in games I was mafia in. The same skills can apply to town if we are able to sort out who's who and create a legitimate town circle. Furthermore, I am very adept at sorting out what's what's legitimate and what's bullshit. Unless there are some specific roles which may overcome my keen eye, I can guarantee you that there will be NO leaks in the town circle if I am voted mayor. As for the issue of whether I am mafia or not... you can be damn well sure that the first person to announce their candidacy for mayor as I did had better be really fucking good at defending themselves from clues if they're mafia. Other than that fact, I cannot guarantee anything. But that is what most elections are: a leap of faith. I'm curious how you would go about forming a town circle. Considering the PM rules. And there are no clues in this game, unless you mean something else like slip-ups. It seems for someone claiming they have such a keen-eye, you don't read the OP very well. I don't think this makes you scummy, you just don't stand out as an experienced player if we put aside how smart you will be as mayor. Psha. It appears it is you who did not read the first post very well. Did you forget about the existence of irc or other forums? Town circles are not limited to the teamliquid forum and can be carried out elsewhere. Communication about the game outside of this topic is not allowed unless explicitly confirmed.
Well then...
nvm I guess 
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All this setback does is simply show that many things can technically be exploited in this game, with the influx of new abilities I believe a great strategy can be devised if the great minds of this game work together under one leader.
I am still running for mayor. A vote for Hyperbola is a vote for a brighter future for us all.
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What I am interested in is how forgetforeverine is going to factor into the game. Is it simply a role playing element and can a specific role can utilize it? Or is it just a way of having people "forget" about other mafia games... in which case we can't make arguments based on past actions.
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It's really pointless for me to vote for myself at this point so I guess I'll vote for Pandain. The other two prime candidates are all discussing secret societies and whatnot, and even though I'm all for those types of roles, I believe the mayor should really be a figurehead for the whole town.
1. It would be really difficult, and not to mention disadvantageous, for the mayor to prove they are a free mason or something along those lines
2. The mayor keeps the rest of the town out of the loop (because there wouldn't be a way to transfer secret data) and therefore causes confusion which can lead to unwarranted bandwagoning.
3. If the mayor dies, how will the circle prove itself to town afterward? After losing all leadership, the town will flop and scum will have it's way with the remains.
And as for Pandain, I have seen his play style from the previous game and think he would make a good mayor. If he turns out to be mafia, and unless he has flawlessly acted out the role, people would notice and he'd be gone in a blink of an eye.
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I don't seem to understand Siniquity's death. Was he subbed for youngminii or did youngminii leave town for a night?
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On October 31 2010 20:20 youngminii wrote:
oh god that was a shitfest, i didn't read everything to the full but i got the general gist of what's going on
Before you ask me to do something stupid like roleclaim, ask yourselves:
Why in God's name would scum have an ability that allows them to not die? Lynches always bypass the 'oh this guy has two lives' thing anyway.
Why would I not try to defend myself after being pressured for so long? If you thought I was biding my time so that someone could try to take the attention away from me, why didn't anyone?
DrH I'm surprised you didn't think of the second question. Also, a whole lot of your reasoning for your accusations in this thread comes from the metagame, which is stupid because some people like not playing the same style every single game. Stop relying on the metagame, especially if you've only seen me play *once*.
Hang on, your reasoning is flawed anyway because if you actually used the metagame, you would have seen my active posting in Haunted Mafia as scum. Why in the world would you still try and get me lynched?
Ok so these are the aspects of his role (if he's telling the truth):
1. avoid a lynch
2. no talking
So I'm thinking his role is the ability to leave town, turn invisible, or hide in the closet for a night. I don't know why he wouldn't role claim but, more importantly, this doesn't seem like a scum-favored role. Think about it: why would scum leave town? Is the mob getting too hot for him? This would seem almost detrimental because if someone has a valid case against him, he can't argue it and just delays the inevitable 1 turn. I think the role is intended to just dodge night actions and simply dodges lynches and forbids speaking as a side effect. So in short, I think youngminii is innocent to some extent... for now.
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Lexpar has successfully derailed the thread for like 3/4 of a page, lol. Not that we're really doing anything intense right now. Regarding youngminii, I don't think we really need to get to the bottom of the whole situation just yet as Coagulation stated. I think we should wait till day, analyze the day post and the deaths, and then resume "getting to the bottom of things". But as other people have said before me, role claiming is nothing but detrimental unless it's done right. Do not be like Aeres guys (no offense), his role claim was rash and could put him and others in danger.
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Ok let's not fish for the elder. Why do the mafia's work for them? If he want's to be known he'll say it in the thread.
Regarding Node: His role is really easy to fake. A mafia knows exactly who's going to die and he probably has a role that decided who to kill during the day or is just completely faking it. The reason I think this is because he explicitly asked for medic protection on night 1 and 3 people are now infected. I am assuming that Murrayitis starts off with only 1 host because otherwise it would take very little time to infect half of the town's population. I can't really prove anything right now but Node is now quite suspicious in my eyes.
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On November 01 2010 09:53 Coagulation wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2010 09:25 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On November 01 2010 09:24 jcarlsoniv wrote:On November 01 2010 09:22 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On November 01 2010 09:20 Misder wrote:
@DH
Earlier, you said you were going to poke the person you thought is most likely town. So why do you think that jcarls is town? Agreeable posts, good analysis, cool headed and logical. He didn't make a big roleclaim or bring a lot of attention onto himself and seemed for that reason to be a good target for me. Awwww that's the nicest thing anyone's ever said about me! ... on the internet... I didn't realize I was actually an important player in this game. On November 01 2010 08:15 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
I would like to announce that last night I poked jcarlsoniv. I did not receive a PM from Artanis or LSB meaning the poke was successful and jcarlsoniv does not have murrayitis. I cannot confirm this Dr.H, I did not receive a PM from the mods saying I was poked. Did you receive any other night actions? Something stopped my poke from going through to jcarlsoniv. how fucking convenient.
You do realize it would actually be a smart move for mafia to roleblock DrH? This can really flip either way at this point.
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I honestly do not know who to vote for right now. Nothing seems solid. I'm gonna vote for someone random so I don't get modkilled.
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On November 04 2010 08:24 CubEdIn wrote:
Well if you want my opinion about the blue pill thing (let's assume I'm not lying), it's either:
1. A note from the admin. But it would be pointless, because I didn't take the blue pill.
2. A mafia being able to influence the Radio as well. It would make sense, half Glasse, half Mafia.
I don't think this is the case. Otherwise Glasse would have said something.
Anyone else thinks it's kinda weird that DCLXVI would have a "leave town role" like Aeres and potentially youngminii? Either that or Node is BSing us.
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On November 05 2010 03:02 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Here's everyone who hasn't voted yet afaik: Lexpar Hyperbola Amber[LighT] Beneather Coagulation Hyperbola has been SUPER inactive this game, but isn't that off considering he ran for mayor on the basis of his great analysis and being a good player (rather than his role): Show nested quote +On October 29 2010 07:47 Hyperbola wrote:
Citizens of Insania,
I would like to announce my candidacy for mayor. In light of recent events, most importantly the town's development of many new powers, a new system of government must emerge to quell the chaos that is this town. It has come to our attention that the local mafia has begun to exploit their new abilities and are now aiming for total control of this fine community. In order to successfully repel them, a properly organized inner circle of supertownies must be established. This new circle needs leadership and commitment, and I believe I am the man for the job.
Vote for Order! Vote Hyperbola! Show nested quote +On October 29 2010 09:45 Hyperbola wrote:On October 29 2010 08:29 bumatlarge wrote:On October 29 2010 07:47 Hyperbola wrote:
Citizens of Insania,
I would like to announce my candidacy for mayor. In light of recent events, most importantly the town's development of many new powers, a new system of government must emerge to quell the chaos that is this town. It has come to our attention that the local mafia has begun to exploit their new abilities and are now aiming for total control of this fine community. In order to successfully repel them, a properly organized inner circle of supertownies must be established. This new circle needs leadership and commitment, and I believe I am the man for the job.
Vote for Order! Vote Hyperbola! On October 29 2010 07:49 CubEdIn wrote:
*heads to the voting thread to vote for Hyperbola*
*giggles* See, this is bad, we can't have this. Look how much nonsense he spouted. No of that means anything. IT MEANS NOTHING. Then this dude just votes for him? Sorry charlie not having it. You need to be voting for me. If I am not voed in, I will be Then I will become a Pandain/BM (without the getting modkilled part) and just bug everyone. But if I am! I will be :D Everything will go under my scrutinizer eye and no one will get any biased treatment. Except for maybe Ace, who I owe some respect for that penalty mafia game. He's allowed to do his own thing and not vote for me. An interesting strategy. You call me out on my magnificent speech and then proceed to say almost nothing yourself. Then you direct attention away from yourself and give the illusion of trying to help town by saying random things about the game. I don't think Cube was being serious when he posted that, but I however, was. I am very adept at organization and strategic play. Although I may have not been in as many mafia games and tend to stay quiet, I can still manage a team and have done so in games I was mafia in. The same skills can apply to town if we are able to sort out who's who and create a legitimate town circle. Furthermore, I am very adept at sorting out what's what's legitimate and what's bullshit. Unless there are some specific roles which may overcome my keen eye, I can guarantee you that there will be NO leaks in the town circle if I am voted mayor. As for the issue of whether I am mafia or not... you can be damn well sure that the first person to announce their candidacy for mayor as I did had better be really fucking good at defending themselves from clues if they're mafia. Other than that fact, I cannot guarantee anything. But that is what most elections are: a leap of faith. A hostile defense and further claims that he is a good scumhunter with a keen eye. No leaks in the town circle? What town circle, considering as far as we know you can't PM? Odd post. He's called out on that later and then claims town could probably talk on irc but Artanis tells him nope. Show nested quote +On October 29 2010 10:24 Hyperbola wrote:
All this setback does is simply show that many things can technically be exploited in this game, with the influx of new abilities I believe a great strategy can be devised if the great minds of this game work together under one leader.
I am still running for mayor. A vote for Hyperbola is a vote for a brighter future for us all. Show nested quote +On October 29 2010 11:06 Hyperbola wrote:
What I am interested in is how forgetforeverine is going to factor into the game. Is it simply a role playing element and can a specific role can utilize it? Or is it just a way of having people "forget" about other mafia games... in which case we can't make arguments based on past actions. what is forgetforeverine? i don't remember anyone saying anything about this... Show nested quote +On October 30 2010 09:40 Hyperbola wrote:
It's really pointless for me to vote for myself at this point so I guess I'll vote for Pandain. The other two prime candidates are all discussing secret societies and whatnot, and even though I'm all for those types of roles, I believe the mayor should really be a figurehead for the whole town.
1. It would be really difficult, and not to mention disadvantageous, for the mayor to prove they are a free mason or something along those lines
2. The mayor keeps the rest of the town out of the loop (because there wouldn't be a way to transfer secret data) and therefore causes confusion which can lead to unwarranted bandwagoning.
3. If the mayor dies, how will the circle prove itself to town afterward? After losing all leadership, the town will flop and scum will have it's way with the remains.
And as for Pandain, I have seen his play style from the previous game and think he would make a good mayor. If he turns out to be mafia, and unless he has flawlessly acted out the role, people would notice and he'd be gone in a blink of an eye. Parrots the argument of distrust Coagulation was using that "Fishball is untrustworthy because he operates in secret circles/town circle. But, hyperbola, THE ENTIRE BASIS OF YOUR CAMPAIGN WAS ON CREATING A TOWN CIRCLE. Back to the "Vote pandain cause he's bad and we can tell if hes mafia ez" argument that coagulation used Show nested quote +On November 01 2010 01:51 Hyperbola wrote:On October 31 2010 20:20 youngminii wrote:
oh god that was a shitfest, i didn't read everything to the full but i got the general gist of what's going on
Before you ask me to do something stupid like roleclaim, ask yourselves:
Why in God's name would scum have an ability that allows them to not die? Lynches always bypass the 'oh this guy has two lives' thing anyway.
Why would I not try to defend myself after being pressured for so long? If you thought I was biding my time so that someone could try to take the attention away from me, why didn't anyone?
DrH I'm surprised you didn't think of the second question. Also, a whole lot of your reasoning for your accusations in this thread comes from the metagame, which is stupid because some people like not playing the same style every single game. Stop relying on the metagame, especially if you've only seen me play *once*.
Hang on, your reasoning is flawed anyway because if you actually used the metagame, you would have seen my active posting in Haunted Mafia as scum. Why in the world would you still try and get me lynched? Ok so these are the aspects of his role (if he's telling the truth): 1. avoid a lynch 2. no talking So I'm thinking his role is the ability to leave town, turn invisible, or hide in the closet for a night. I don't know why he wouldn't role claim but, more importantly, this doesn't seem like a scum-favored role. Think about it: why would scum leave town? Is the mob getting too hot for him? This would seem almost detrimental because if someone has a valid case against him, he can't argue it and just delays the inevitable 1 turn. I think the role is intended to just dodge night actions and simply dodges lynches and forbids speaking as a side effect. So in short, I think youngminii is innocent to some extent... for now. bit of a defense for youngminii. Coagulation attacked youngminii really hard. This doesn't clear hyperbola though, there are reasons why mafia might attack another mafia but the way coagulation did it was strangely intense. If Coagulation somehow flips blue I'd SERIOUSLY consider hyperbola. Show nested quote +On November 01 2010 07:29 Hyperbola wrote:
Lexpar has successfully derailed the thread for like 3/4 of a page, lol. Not that we're really doing anything intense right now. Regarding youngminii, I don't think we really need to get to the bottom of the whole situation just yet as Coagulation stated. I think we should wait till day, analyze the day post and the deaths, and then resume "getting to the bottom of things". But as other people have said before me, role claiming is nothing but detrimental unless it's done right. Do not be like Aeres guys (no offense), his role claim was rash and could put him and others in danger. Show nested quote +On November 01 2010 09:54 Hyperbola wrote:
Ok let's not fish for the elder. Why do the mafia's work for them? If he want's to be known he'll say it in the thread.
Regarding Node: His role is really easy to fake. A mafia knows exactly who's going to die and he probably has a role that decided who to kill during the day or is just completely faking it. The reason I think this is because he explicitly asked for medic protection on night 1 and 3 people are now infected. I am assuming that Murrayitis starts off with only 1 host because otherwise it would take very little time to infect half of the town's population. I can't really prove anything right now but Node is now quite suspicious in my eyes. Show nested quote +On November 01 2010 09:56 Hyperbola wrote:On November 01 2010 09:53 Coagulation wrote:On November 01 2010 09:25 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On November 01 2010 09:24 jcarlsoniv wrote:On November 01 2010 09:22 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On November 01 2010 09:20 Misder wrote:
@DH
Earlier, you said you were going to poke the person you thought is most likely town. So why do you think that jcarls is town? Agreeable posts, good analysis, cool headed and logical. He didn't make a big roleclaim or bring a lot of attention onto himself and seemed for that reason to be a good target for me. Awwww that's the nicest thing anyone's ever said about me! ... on the internet... I didn't realize I was actually an important player in this game. On November 01 2010 08:15 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
I would like to announce that last night I poked jcarlsoniv. I did not receive a PM from Artanis or LSB meaning the poke was successful and jcarlsoniv does not have murrayitis. I cannot confirm this Dr.H, I did not receive a PM from the mods saying I was poked. Did you receive any other night actions? Something stopped my poke from going through to jcarlsoniv. how fucking convenient. You do realize it would actually be a smart move for mafia to roleblock DrH? This can really flip either way at this point. Show nested quote +On November 02 2010 08:42 Hyperbola wrote:
I honestly do not know who to vote for right now. Nothing seems solid. I'm gonna vote for someone random so I don't get modkilled. Show nested quote +On November 04 2010 08:41 Hyperbola wrote:On November 04 2010 08:24 CubEdIn wrote:
Well if you want my opinion about the blue pill thing (let's assume I'm not lying), it's either:
1. A note from the admin. But it would be pointless, because I didn't take the blue pill.
2. A mafia being able to influence the Radio as well. It would make sense, half Glasse, half Mafia.
I don't think this is the case. Otherwise Glasse would have said something. Anyone else thinks it's kinda weird that DCLXVI would have a "leave town role" like Aeres and potentially youngminii? Either that or Node is BSing us. Hyperbola has been mostly pretty inactive and a lot of his posts are just saying things the town had already really been talking about. I figured a mafia would drop out of the race when Mayor was revealed to be vulnerable to rolechecks and the way with which hyperbola ran his campaign fits this profile. I'd consider him as a second lynch tomorrow. A very strong target if coag flips blue imo
Yeah I've been inactive. Not because I'm scum but because I started to lose interest in the game.
1. forgetforeverine is in the first day post.
2. my platform was a town circle of all of most of the townies, I apposed Fishball because his circle had absolutely no way of communicating to the thread besides Fishball so it was a very unstable structure.
3. I defended youngminii because it was stupid to accuse him. He has a role which avoids a lynch = almost certainly not mafia.
4.I "dropped" out of the race because there was no way in hell I would win.
Your arguments are crap. I would consider you suspicious for accusing someone random like me but I still think you are town because your role does not sound made up.
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We need someone who is good at mafia but terrible at manipulation.
pandain is probably the best candidate under these parameters. he is an extremely organized and tactical scum hunter his analyses skills are good and he has a good level head about what needs to be done.
i have also noticed that he is a terrible lier and his posting style makes his motives extremely transparent. this would make it much easier for us to spot a slip up if he is mafia. and greatly increases the chances that he would fail at getting away with scum moves if it turns out he is a red.
DocH You basically said YOU WILL PROVE your town and then basically said "MAYBE DEPENDING ON WHAT HAPPENS I WILL PROVE IT IM NOT SURE"
I dont think pandain would be the greatest mayor
However
i would rather pandain then Annul and his manipulation if he is RED
and i would rather pandain then fishbowl and his "EXTREMELY SHY?? circle"
I would really really like for you to make me feel comfortable voting for you for mayor. but your doing a bad job so far.
Now i am sticking with pandain because he is most likely not a red trying to gain control of town based on the fact that he is not campaigning relentlessly.
Pandain is more then capable of using what tools he has at his disposal to help coordinate a good town strategy and i doubt he would run for mayor if he thought his role wasnt capable of contributing greatly as mayor.. and I FEEL HE is the most TRUSTWORTHY candidate so far BASED ON HIS ACTIONS IN THIS GAME. I Dont get the same feeling from you when your Threatening "FOS" On anyone that doesnt vote you..
IM NOT VOTING on WHOS PROMISING SOME BULLSHIT IF THEY GET MAYOR (town circle?? where??)
IM VOTING ON WHO I TRUST THE MOST IN MY GUT
IS THAT REASON ENOUGH?
Dodging a lynch sounds alot like a scum role.. anyone else think so?
OK i have caught up on reading
1. DOCH naturally I still cant trust you 100% until I can see some of your claims of verifying yourself come to light. I really hope your not a red otherwise we may as well just bend over and let you get to fucking.
2. you have a moron for a bodyguard
3. Node is asking for invites to the circle? i would think twice before letting people who request in. looks like 1 red was already in the circle. he dies and now Node starts asking to get in?(could be mafia trying to get a man back inside)
looks bad but not gonna dwell on it too much yet..
4. pandain I dunno what the hell you are talking about. Im not gonna keep my mouth shut if someone looks scummy just because they are not around to defend themselves.
dt needs to investigate pandain for sure considering he was running for mayor.
also the other people who wanted elected mayor
bumatlarge
fishball
annul
ghrur
glasse
node
also worth keeping an eye on node who is asking for people to invite him into circle.
well regardless we need to get to the bottom of the youngminii thing somehow i think thats the point hes trying to make. i still feel like there is a good possibility that his ability is either a red ability or he was saved by a red allie. i dont want this to just blow under the radar
@Glasse
no your right. for the most part however your "cat like" actions are more along the lines of when the cat shits in your sock drawer. the sock drawer being this thread.
Not sure if anybody analyzed Coagulation's post history extensively before, but now that he's flipped scum I believe it's worthwhile. I did not quote all of his posts but I did quote all relevant to my conclusions. Also Coag got the 1337 post.
Ok so solely based off of Coagulation's post history I've discerned the following.
1. Pandain is almost certainly scum (common opinion at this point). Coagulation supports Pandain all throughout his election and shits on the other candidates. I only quoted some of his posts but he has maaany in support of Pandain.
2. Doctor Helvetica is almost certainly innocent. Coagulation spent the entire thread accusing DocH. If he was a fellow scum then Coagulation, as the prime accuser, might have single handedly caused DocH to get lyched due to all of his attacks. Thus, the probability is low.
3. Youngminii is almost certainly town. Coag again attacks him repeatedly throughout the thread and always tries to draw attention to him.
4. Node is probably innocent and not lying. Although I thought he was suspicious before, Node's credibility is questioned by Coag more than once in the thread.
5. Glasse is probably town aligned. He badmouths Glasse a few times in the thread. Not very strong but there's nothing on Glasse to prove otherwise.
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On November 06 2010 11:06 infinitestory wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2010 11:02 Hyperbola wrote:We need someone who is good at mafia but terrible at manipulation.
pandain is probably the best candidate under these parameters. he is an extremely organized and tactical scum hunter his analyses skills are good and he has a good level head about what needs to be done.
i have also noticed that he is a terrible lier and his posting style makes his motives extremely transparent. this would make it much easier for us to spot a slip up if he is mafia. and greatly increases the chances that he would fail at getting away with scum moves if it turns out he is a red. DocH You basically said YOU WILL PROVE your town and then basically said "MAYBE DEPENDING ON WHAT HAPPENS I WILL PROVE IT IM NOT SURE"
I dont think pandain would be the greatest mayor
However
i would rather pandain then Annul and his manipulation if he is RED
and i would rather pandain then fishbowl and his "EXTREMELY SHY?? circle"
I would really really like for you to make me feel comfortable voting for you for mayor. but your doing a bad job so far. Now i am sticking with pandain because he is most likely not a red trying to gain control of town based on the fact that he is not campaigning relentlessly.
Pandain is more then capable of using what tools he has at his disposal to help coordinate a good town strategy and i doubt he would run for mayor if he thought his role wasnt capable of contributing greatly as mayor.. and I FEEL HE is the most TRUSTWORTHY candidate so far BASED ON HIS ACTIONS IN THIS GAME. I Dont get the same feeling from you when your Threatening "FOS" On anyone that doesnt vote you..
IM NOT VOTING on WHOS PROMISING SOME BULLSHIT IF THEY GET MAYOR (town circle?? where??)
IM VOTING ON WHO I TRUST THE MOST IN MY GUT
IS THAT REASON ENOUGH? Dodging a lynch sounds alot like a scum role.. anyone else think so? OK i have caught up on reading
1. DOCH naturally I still cant trust you 100% until I can see some of your claims of verifying yourself come to light. I really hope your not a red otherwise we may as well just bend over and let you get to fucking.
2. you have a moron for a bodyguard
3. Node is asking for invites to the circle? i would think twice before letting people who request in. looks like 1 red was already in the circle. he dies and now Node starts asking to get in?(could be mafia trying to get a man back inside)
looks bad but not gonna dwell on it too much yet..
4. pandain I dunno what the hell you are talking about. Im not gonna keep my mouth shut if someone looks scummy just because they are not around to defend themselves. dt needs to investigate pandain for sure considering he was running for mayor.
also the other people who wanted elected mayor
bumatlarge
fishball
annul
ghrur
glasse
node
also worth keeping an eye on node who is asking for people to invite him into circle. well regardless we need to get to the bottom of the youngminii thing somehow i think thats the point hes trying to make. i still feel like there is a good possibility that his ability is either a red ability or he was saved by a red allie. i dont want this to just blow under the radar
@Glasse
no your right. for the most part however your "cat like" actions are more along the lines of when the cat shits in your sock drawer. the sock drawer being this thread. Not sure if anybody analyzed Coagulation's post history extensively before, but now that he's flipped scum I believe it's worthwhile. I did not quote all of his posts but I did quote all relevant to my conclusions. Also Coag got the 1337 post. Ok so solely based off of Coagulation's post history I've discerned the following. 1. Pandain is almost certainly scum (common opinion at this point). Coagulation supports Pandain all throughout his election and shits on the other candidates. I only quoted some of his posts but he has maaany in support of Pandain. 2. Doctor Helvetica is almost certainly innocent. Coagulation spent the entire thread accusing DocH. If he was a fellow scum then Coagulation, as the prime accuser, might have single handedly caused DocH to get lyched due to all of his attacks. Thus, the probability is low. 3. Youngminii is almost certainly town. Coag again attacks him repeatedly throughout the thread and always tries to draw attention to him. 4. Node is probably innocent and not lying. Although I thought he was suspicious before, Node's credibility is questioned by Coag more than once in the thread. 5. Glasse is probably town aligned. He badmouths Glasse a few times in the thread. Not very strong but there's nothing on Glasse to prove otherwise. just at a glance, one major thing wrong is that if X shows animosity towards Y, that doesn't mean X and Y are opposite alignments. Same if X shows support for Y, that doesn't mean they're the same alignment. This is especially relevant for points 4 and 5 IMO
I actually considered this. Not to be insulting to Coagulation, but I didn't think him the type of player to use reverse logic as you are suggesting. As for number 4, he has a decent amount of posts against Node to discourage him from joining the mailman circle and questions his credibility. I don't think someone would do that as reverse psychology for a role as sensitive as Node's.
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Since when was Pandain proven innocent
And why is everyone suddenly voting for me? Simply because I was inactive? Honestly this is quite ridiculous.
I'm role claiming as a last ditch effort to save my ass, I'm a martyr. I protected Node day one, DrH day two, and infinite story day three.
I'm thinking town is heavily influenced by the Mafia right now which explains all of the random bandwagoning and obvious ignorance of already fishy people.
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On November 09 2010 03:57 Veldril wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2010 02:51 Hyperbola wrote:
Since when was Pandain proven innocent I and no one claimed that Pandain is innocent. For me, he's on a very short leash and if he's does not provide other reasons we should not vote him, then I will vote him on the next day. However, looking at the vote count, Pandain would be lynched today quite surely, unless suddenly everyone shift the vote off him. Show nested quote +And why is everyone suddenly voting for me? Simply because I was inactive? Honestly this is quite ridiculous.
I'm role claiming as a last ditch effort to save my ass, I'm a martyr. I protected Node day one, DrH day two, and infinite story day three.
I'm thinking town is heavily influenced by the Mafia right now which explains all of the random bandwagoning and obvious ignorance of already fishy people. I vote you because of Dr.H's analysis before he is killed. But from vote counts so far, I think Pandain would be dead for sure. I am more suspicious of KtheZ more right now, so I'm willing to let you slide for today + after some thoughts, Dr.H's analysis could be outdated. Going to shift my vote to Meapak_Ziphh.
So basically you have almost nothing against me. DrH's analysis was already addressed by me and I believe I provided counterarguments for everything he said. It seems to me you are desperate to shift blame on someone and that is quite scummy in my point of view. Perhaps I'll vote for your lynch tomorrow.
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