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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
October 11 2010 03:06 GMT
#56
So psyched for this.
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
October 11 2010 03:10 GMT
#57
Just to clarify, each "game day" is 3 days real time? 2 days of day time and 1 day of night time?

Also, you said 12:00 team liquid time is 11:00 EST. Is that 11 AM or PM?
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
October 11 2010 03:36 GMT
#63
On October 11 2010 12:36 KtheZ wrote:
Just wondering, who delivers the PMs?

I got mine from meeble, but I assume Doc is sending some out too.
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
October 11 2010 03:44 GMT
#64
So I'm just trying to figure things out. Is it possible to lynch on Day 1? I know it's most likely improbable due to lack of information.
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
October 11 2010 03:53 GMT
#66
Almost midnight EST! =O

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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
October 11 2010 04:20 GMT
#84
It's more of an inconvenience to you, Doc, not us. =/
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
October 11 2010 04:27 GMT
#94
On October 11 2010 13:26 jodogohoo wrote:
wait so... did the game start yet?


No, we have to wait for DrH/meeple to fix it.
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
October 11 2010 04:28 GMT
#96
On October 11 2010 13:26 Thegilaboy wrote:
Also I want to echo what LSB stated. When we get our roles again and the day post is remade, we need to take a look for some early clues, but more importantly people need to keep active. A quit townie doesn't help the town and seems suspicious since it looks like you're trying to stay out of the spotlight. If everyone keeps active, mafia will slip up and maybe start revealing themselves


At the same time, we don't want to be TOO active. Spam will hurt just as much as inactivity. We need posts of quality, not quantity.
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
October 11 2010 04:33 GMT
#101
I don't mean to say not to talk, annul. Hard to convey my thought thoroughly I guess. I'm more taking it from the fact that often on forums, people speak before thinking. But since there is a small, select group playing, this will probably occur less.
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
October 11 2010 04:48 GMT
#112
Both BC's death and meeple's death seem to be the work of psychotic people.

BC's says "psycho" right in the description, while meeple's killer is being spoken to by the wind.
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
October 11 2010 04:57 GMT
#123
What kills vampires? It's silver, right? So vampires would not use silver to kill the townspeople...I suppose?

Not sure how much the killings will help us, or if they are even meant to, but at least it gives us something.
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
October 11 2010 05:19 GMT
#144
Cub, I think it came from a coffee shop just to make the story rewrite simpler. Notice most of the other scenarios are the same as well.

The HeavOnEarth and Masq finds are pretty good. I haven't gotten to look through all the profiles, but those are the most promising I've seen so far.
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
October 11 2010 05:21 GMT
#151
Annul, the methods of killing changed, as well as the killer description. The scenarios all seem the same.
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
October 11 2010 05:41 GMT
#173
Has a voting thread been set up yet?
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
October 11 2010 05:46 GMT
#180
I think ShmotZ is a longer shot than Masq. Sure, it is suggestive, but Masq fits it a bit better. There are also a couple other people who have shadowy figures as their picture.
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
October 11 2010 13:26 GMT
#333
Waking up to 10 more pages of this thread is awesome. =)

After reading, I have my eye on people:

Veldril
Coagulation
Masq

When Masq was accused because of his profile picture, Veldril pointed out that we shouldn't accuse so quickly, etc. I see this as not a blatant defense, but a defense to get us to chill out while also keeping his head off the chopping block.


On October 11 2010 15:11 Veldril wrote:
Another thing is that are we too readily to blame Masq for the kill? The evidence is quite obvious but it could be too obvious sometimes. We need to be a little bit more careful about voting.


Then Masq posts being grateful for some support.


On October 11 2010 15:16 Masq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2010 15:11 Veldril wrote:
Another thing is that are we too readily to blame Masq for the kill? The evidence is quite obvious but it could be too obvious sometimes. We need to be a little bit more careful about voting.


Finally, someone with some reason.


This could be some attempt at teaming, and should be kept in mind.
Then, more deflecting, trying to get us to vote less rashly:

On October 11 2010 15:33 Veldril wrote:
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On October 11 2010 15:14 Nemesis wrote:
On October 11 2010 15:11 Veldril wrote:
Another thing is that are we too readily to blame Masq for the kill? The evidence is quite obvious but it could be too obvious sometimes. We need to be a little bit more careful about voting.

Unless you have someone else in mind, then please enlighten us. Right now, it is the best lead we got.


I don't have one specific in my mind right now (that's why I don't vote yet). But I have some idea...

Firstly, because the Mafia and Vampire knows who are on the same team with them, they would want to deflect the blame if a person in his team is suspected. A person who rashly accuses other person could be a Mafia or a Vampire, especially on Day 1. Note that this is not about presenting suspicious players' profiles. But it's more about looking at only one profile and making an accusation without analysis or with an over-analysis.

Secondly, I believe that there's old-school player here so we might be able to check their previous post first before making an accusation. Analyzing the old posts in previous games might become useful if you have time to do it.


Coagulation has been very sarcastic the entire thread, accusing himself with attempts at humor and long shot theories. Then he has been crying when people get suspicious of him. Not quite sure how I think about it yet.

Masq is on my list because of his profile picture only. He has been relatively quiet, and I'm not sure how to use the clues from the murders yet, but I want him to be kept an eye on just for pure speculation sake.

I would be comfortable lynching any one of these three. I think Veldril is my top pick, Coag being second, and Masq last.
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
October 11 2010 15:12 GMT
#343
Also, Orgolove, thanks for the spreadsheet. Whether or not your motives are good or evil, it will surely help the town quite a bit. Now let's just hope he hasn't fabricated any information... =X
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
October 11 2010 15:23 GMT
#346
On October 12 2010 00:19 orgolove wrote:
It won't be of much help if I don't get more help on some of the info... I may make mistakes or miss somethings - I can't possibly keep track of 61 people at once all by myself.

At the very least I'll update the votes list daily...


I can help you out if you want. Just tell me what you would want me to do, and I can PM you what I find.
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
October 11 2010 16:01 GMT
#351
Veldril, all your last post as done for me is made me MORE suspicious of you.

Oh well, I think I deserve to be suspected for protecting Masq. But let's be clear, I'm suspecting Masq too


Admitting that you should be suspected and then saying you also suspect Masq only makes me think that you are trying to shed suspicion.

That means the clue might hurt townie like us too.


"townie like us" seems to me that you are trying to make the players feel you are one of the townies. Why would someone who is a townie want to try and appear to be a townie?

I like your post here. Yes, I was absolutely did a bad post and deserve to be suspected. But after reading Ver's guide, do you think I would make a same mistake that Misder made in the past? I think not.


You are trying to placate BM by agreeing that his accusations were reasonable. This is an attempt to get on his good side. It is possible that you could make the same mistakes Misder did, and, even if you recognized that you did, you are trying to convince him that you wouldn't make these mistakes.

I am tagging you as a red. You are trying too hard to appear innocent. Well, my dear friend, there is no such thing as innocence, just varying degrees of guilt.

Side note: While the clues from the murders are important, I believe the discussions and peoples' reactions will reveal more to us.
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
October 11 2010 18:27 GMT
#381
On October 12 2010 03:09 CubEdIn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2010 02:12 Veldril wrote:
On October 12 2010 02:02 Flicky wrote:
My general opinion on the Whole Masq thing is that he's not doing a great job of defending himself despite it only being day 1.

While it's possible it's "too obvious" to some, as soon as I realised it can't have been a Jack O'Lantern framing, the more it seems that's the only lead.

Seems likely to me and that a possible miss-lynch wouldn't be too much of an issue.


After spending time reading rules, I do agree that miss-lynch on the first day is not a big issue. We have 61 players here, with 22 reds. That we have 39 greens/blues. Considering that mafias and vampires each can kill up to 3 people (or have to kill three people I'm not sure, might need clarification on this), we can say that on the first day plus first night, there will be up to 7 people dead. If all dead are hit at townie, then townie will have 32 player left. And worst case would be 7 of either vampire or mafia are killed (only single side), which I believe is very unlikely.


Not that it's very relevant, but you couldn't get 7 kills on vampire or mafia since they know who they are and would not use their 3 kills on their own team. So tops would be 4 kills on one side and 3 kills on the other, which wouldn't be TOO bad. It would make the game fairly interesting, since all sides gain from killing the other sides, so it would still be fairly even in terms of Mafia vs Vampires, but the Townies would have the advantage.

As for masq, as I said in the beginning, it may not be the smartest thing to go on with such an obvious clue, but then again what other options do we have?
Really, no other clues come close to this in my opinion. If we find someone who's more likely, then I'd gladly change my vote.


We can't only look at clues. Reading into posting manner will reveal a lot more than what we can gather from Day 1 clues.

Veldril is evading. Whether or not he is in cahoots, I have no idea, but there is definitely something fishy about him. His posts are somewhat passive submissive: not necessarily laying the blame so as not to make enemies, but still trying to get the target off his head. I think we are better off taking someone out who is vehemently trying to escape/blend in than we are off of some vague clue conjecture.
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