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On October 11 2010 12:17 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2010 12:10 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Just to clarify, each "game day" is 3 days real time? 2 days of day time and 1 day of night time?
Also, you said 12:00 team liquid time is 11:00 EST. Is that 11 AM or PM? PM. We'll be starting at midnight EST tonight though. In fact I'm going to change the cycle times. 48 hour days, 24 hour nights. a full cycle if you wish to call it so is 72 hours.
8008 posts LOL
hmm, im confused on the vampire's power... whats the meaning of KP? dying by poison cost 1 mafia's KP?
if KP is kill power => if some one die that night by vampire poison fangs, mafia get to kill 1 less person?
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On October 11 2010 13:04 youngminii wrote:
whats a haunted zombie
I see what you did there  *smiley face*
holyshit, people already dead... Im scared T_T
just a song that suit the theme xD
+ Show Spoiler +
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On October 11 2010 13:16 orgolove wrote:
Uh, if you're a townie, how do you know from the very first day who's the mafia/vampire? Nothing has happened. Are we supposed to just randomly choose for the first day?
there are clue in the text.... im inspecting the "non-fiction" detail after the Liberian death... have to go to people profile and check 1 by 1 is a pain T_T... is there a quick way to do it?
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On October 11 2010 13:35 Glasse wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2010 13:29 meeple wrote:On October 11 2010 13:22 Thegilaboy wrote:
Also, DrH are you going to be providing screenshots of everyone's profile in the OP for convenience? Yes... in good time... just give us a sec to fix this...
On October 11 2010 13:26 orgolove wrote:
Damn, I wish the list of people would be automatically linked to their profiles... Doc? :D Again... in a little while, this should be added... first things first... Did it for you, spare you some time + Show Spoiler +Edit: added spoiler, and edit note
great post, thanks alot ^^
also when the game start, it would be night first right? i mean considering there are people being killed, there should be a night b4 that so the mafia and vampire decided who to killed :<.... or those people who were dead on 1st day are randomly chosen?
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so i assume this is where townies discuss who to kill on the 1st day...
i have played mafia in real life so normally people who suggest who to kill first is the mafia (since they wana kill people @_@)
hmmm...
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On October 11 2010 13:55 LSB wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2010 13:49 NB wrote:
so i assume this is where townies discuss who to kill on the 1st day...
i have played mafia in real life so normally people who suggest who to kill first is the mafia (since they wana kill people @_@)
hmmm... Rule of thumb, 3rd or 4th person on a bandwagon is probably mafia Mafia in.. Real life... Whats that? Is that like on a different forum or something? (jkjk)
no, mafia in real life is a game where you sit in a round table and play mafia xD... night: everyone heads down and close eyes, day: discuss =D.... 1 game might take 10 mins, might take 3 hours...
what is a bandwagon T_T
also: being killed by a hammer... hammer is a moderator right? i mean the icon...
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i didnt know, im sorry... it just that i dont wana double posting T_T
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On October 11 2010 14:59 seRapH wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2010 14:58 Coagulation wrote:
NO i think we should all stop analysing and just keep voting for coag for no reason oh ok then i'm glad we're in agreement.
you should be able to easily tell that it is a simple joke... the fact that you just want to kill a random people means that most likely you are a mafia or vampire...
even if you are neither, having some kinda random vote like you will ruin the logical of the game
the above reasons are why i voted for
seRaPh
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is that just me or 2 pages ago, someone suggested to vote for masq and 2 or 3 people stand out(most noticed is Veldril) and defend him?
is that mean they are on the same team?
again, in this game if im correct, only town people dont know who the rest are, mafia/vampire know their teamees right?
about the crazy pictures: if you guys have noticed, the content of the clue have not changed much since the 1st content which was canceled since there was a mistake... Most people profile have not changed during that period of time so using "Pictures" in the profile pages does not guarantee anything.
And Yes, im defending it bc i have a "crazed smile" picture in my profile but it was from kingdom heart 4 or 5 years ago  ... and kingdom heart is cute :3...
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im currently have my eyes on jodogohoo
Reason: in the voting thread, he changed his vote 3 times and vote for 4 different people...
This indicate the fact that he just want to get rid of somebody and does not care who it is.
This type of action is rarely seen at town people and more common at mafia/vampire since they know "who not to kill".
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On October 11 2010 16:52 Masq wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2010 16:29 orgolove wrote:
I'm not going to update the list with ppl who make large lists of suspects - too much work. I'll only update the few people that vehemently support/denounce others, i.e.
aztrorisk:
accused shmotz
defended masq
etc etc. Show nested quote +On October 11 2010 15:32 aztrorisk wrote:
I think masq is our safest option, lets just keep it at him Definitely didn't defend me. Why is everyone out to get me My picture doesn't even have carvings in it. Its a pear with bite marks made to look like a face, its supposed to be cute. You guys are so cruel.
There are 2 common degree of thinkings:
1/ using the clue and come up with the criminal
2/ using the clue, predict the result of the criminal and use it to manipulate people to other result.
Considering this is day1 and we have lots of new players (including me), 2nd degree is almost impossible to happen in the first few posts unless we have a group of mafia/vampire full of veteran players framing this from the very first second they know each others.
Therefore the chance of you belong to 1 of those 2 groups: mafia/vampire is the highest atm.
But i also suggest just to be safe: we should check who come up with the clue about Jack-o-lantern and connect it to masq profile picture... That person could also be "the one who want to kill people".
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i notice a lots of people voted without reason or posting in this thread...
Just as a warning: thats make you really looks like a mafia/vampire who wana sneaky killing people.
I have a feeling that the more votes we have for masq, the deeper we are falling into a trap... The only reason i would vote for him right now is beacause he "seem" to have a teammate who is "Veldrill".As Dr.H has cleared out, Jack-o-lantern is a role and not a clue so the picture must be non-related....
I fact, We should pay attention to the people who are keep accusing masq and keep our track on them... Just to be safe.
a non related note: jodogohoo changed his vote again... there is something really supicious about the way this guy vote... He is either a newb or some psycho killer -.-
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WHO INVESTIGATE THE INVESTIGATORS?
I am considering between seRapH, jodogohoo and Veldril
If masq is truely the Jack-o-lantern, its "ok" to ignore him. Would not take risk only killing 1 blue since 1 blue life is SO MUCH worth compare to killing jack...
Reason i choose those 3 people:
seRapH: check my previous posts
jodogohoo: He changed his vote ALOT. The best way to explain this is that he likes to "agree" with people on lynching somebody. This means that he, in fact, does not value the "risk" that we have to take when lynching somebody or in another way to say: "He seem to know who to avoid killing". Most of his posts contain very "simple" logic and mostly "agreeing" with someone else on lynching people. If i have to change my vote right now, i would vote for him. I denied the possibility of him being a noob since his post counts is 2k...
Veldril: His biggest mistake was try to protect masq VERY early on. If that didnt cause enough attention toward this couple, Masq went a head and "agree" with Veldril's protection. => What this means is that instead of voting for masq, vote for Veldril is a MUCH safer option comparatively since Veldril has much more "power posts" than Masq. If both Masq and Veldril have equal chance of being mafia/vamp, why dont we remove the "harmful" one b4 the "harmless" one?
Now im off to do homework >.<... but i will replay if you have any questions toward my logic :-)
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On October 12 2010 03:38 Bill Murray wrote:This is pretty damning. This is called an OMGUS. He is voting me because I have made a very good case on him, and he is pussysore about it. OMGUS = Oh My God You Suck. Veldril is standing in the grave he's digging, and it's a two plotter. One is for himself, one is for masq. Masq is mostly harmless, though, so lets get Veldril out of the way first. I'd also like to point out these PMs I received and corresponded on with aztorisk:Show nested quote +
aztorisk wrote:
I agree with you however, we won't be able to gather enough votes to eliminate veldril. If you can gather 2 more votes for veldril, I'll switch, if not, vote for masq so your vote does not go to waste.
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Original Message From Bill Murray:
all i'm saying is veldril has been both more obvious and more active. it is dangerous to leave him alive, whereas masq is mostly harmless and has 1-2 posts with no real substance.
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Original Message From aztrorisk:
I know, I don't want to vote for masq either but It wouldn't be fair for masq if we are biased because he is a SC2 pro.
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Original Message From Bill Murray:
i am more sure of veldril, plus iirc masq is good at sc2 so i'm biased
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Original Message From aztrorisk:
Theres already 4 guys on masq and 1 guy on vendril. We have a better chance of removing masq. You said that you don't care which one goes home.
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Original Message From Bill Murray:
vote with me on veldril then
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Original Message From aztrorisk:
hey can you vote for masq because we won't be able to gather enough votes for vendril. If it is masq, then we'll vote for vendril because he tried to save masq. However, if you keep your vote for vendril and he will probably not get enough votes to get lynched.:
The point of me posting this is that either two things will happen now: A) Aztorisk switches to Veldril, fulfilling his promise to me through PM. B) Aztorisk lies about what he said he would do. If A, he is helping the town. If B, he is breaking LAL, which is Lynch All Liars, and we should lynch him for not cooperating.
hmm, i thought we are not supposed to post PMs?
also it could be you and him making these stuff up, how should i judge a PM? -.-
the only thing i could safely come up after your post is that you and him have some connection...
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On October 12 2010 03:33 YummyBlaBla wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2010 03:28 NB wrote:
WHO INVESTIGATE THE INVESTIGATORS?
I am considering between seRapH, jodogohoo and Veldril
If masq is truely the Jack-o-lantern, its "ok" to ignore him. Would not take risk only killing 1 blue since 1 blue life is SO MUCH worth compare to killing jack...
Reason i choose those 3 people:
seRapH: check my previous posts
jodogohoo: He changed his vote ALOT. The best way to explain this is that he likes to "agree" with people on lynching somebody. This means that he, in fact, does not value the "risk" that we have to take when lynching somebody or in another way to say: "He seem to know who to avoid killing". Most of his posts contain very "simple" logic and mostly "agreeing" with someone else on lynching people. If i have to change my vote right now, i would vote for him. I denied the possibility of him being a noob since his post counts is 2k...
Veldril: His biggest mistake was try to protect masq VERY early on. If that didnt cause enough attention toward this couple, Masq went a head and "agree" with Veldril's protection. => What this means is that instead of voting for masq, vote for Veldril is a MUCH safer option comparatively since Veldril has much more "power posts" than Masq. If both Masq and Veldril have equal chance of being mafia/vamp, why dont we remove the "harmful" one b4 the "harmless" one?
Now im off to do homework >.<... but i will replay if you have any questions toward my logic :-) The Jack-o-lantern hint is a clue. I don't think it means that the clue refers to the blue role.
no, you mis-understood what i was trying to say.
what i mean was that lynching somebody right now is facing a chance of lynching one of our blue so dont do it too randomly. the more blue we have, the more chance we have to survive lately so lynching to a townie is MUCH MORE IMPORTANT compare to M or V. In fact, those people who are not posting but voting are most likely V or M since they dont care about who is getting lynched.
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Talking about M or V... they will want to get rid of the most "reasonable" person who has the most "power posts" in the first night... So The ghost should be protecting the most influential person we having here.
hmm, how do you type in color? only mods can do that?
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On October 12 2010 04:31 jcarlsoniv wrote:
I was wondering if we could get some clarification of some of the votes.
seRapH - 2 - NB, coagulation - (L-29)
jodogohoo - 1 - youngminii - (L-30)
ShmotZ - 1 - KtheZ - (L-30)
aztrorisk - 1 - d3_crescentia - (L-30)
These are the 5 votes I'm not so sure on. Any information will help us make a decision.
as you check my history post in this thread, you will find out the reason y i voted for seRapH:
as VERY early after the game start, he already start accusing people and vote for somebody. This indicate that he already know his "family" and know who are the people he can randomly kill. Again, thats was very early game.
I also warned people that the first person i seen accusing some body will be the one i inspected first and that warned, i believe, was b4 i vote for seRapH.
Most likely i will change my vote into jodogohoo and i wont be bother explain myself again. I have been inspecting him and posted my inspection in this thread, if you care to find out, check my post history.
I see a LOT of "power posts" recently... interesting to notice on the logic that if masq is Mafia/Vamp, he will most likely will survive after night1. What if there is a team kill to get rid of him to avoid inspection on people protected him?
Also the logic of townie has the biggest chance to win is absurd. Statisticly its depend on what are the roles of people who are having "power post" in this thread. "Power post" is a post which has a clear logic which can change people thinking if they read it. The google spreadsheet is also i type of power post that we should keep in mind.
I suggest we each make a "power rank" chart of our own to see who are the most influential in the thread and beware of that person...
Dang! too much "power posts" make me confused >.< T_T
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On October 12 2010 05:22 orgolove wrote:
NB, coagulation was quite defensive when he was first accused. He tried to bandwagon at the first opportunity, and when he was being pressured, made series of posts trying to "joke" about voting against him. I think seraph was not necessarily accusing from the start, it was just that he caught onto this fact.
Now, I wonder why your votes are in agreement with coagulation - is there a connection between you two?
:-j i have nothing to defends myself... yet! I might be coincident.
i dont want to change my vote to either masq or (who ever the guy was protecting him).... I dont feel like working with a large crowd but always try to take a 3rd person point of view into a problem. Thats my personality. In fact, i dont want to change my vote until the last minutes unless im unsure about something.
surprisingly your, orgolove, first target are the people who are having minority votes after all the neutral post you have had. I remember each of these votes, except for jodogohoo's, has quite a reason and the voters have explain themself while u afk... Perhaps spending more times reading the older post would help you?...
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On October 12 2010 05:25 orgolove wrote:
What I mean is, most people would not immediately vote for a guy just based on one suspicion. But indeed you were actually the one to cast your vote on him just two hours or so after the game started, based on that single suspicion. (??)
that is actually the reason why i voted for him if u understood what i said earlier =.=....
Also i voted after i found out that you can change your vote anytime b4 night so i think its not a big deal ^^
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On October 12 2010 05:33 seRapH wrote:
@NB i accused coag from the start because accusing people is a good way to get a reaction from them, and with that you can garner what you will. in this case, i believe the reaction i got from the terrorist is simply too shady to ignore. if he were a townie, he wouldn't be so much worried about getting lynched than hunting for the real reds. why should i accuse randomly instead of using the clues? because clues are very vague, and can be twisted every which way, i don't trust them.
if i were red, i'd stay low, until i know who i can accuse without attracting attention. i'd see that people thought masq was a good choice to accuse, and jump on that. or maybe masq was in my family and then i'd reserve my vote until someone else with a lot of votes not in my family comes up.
everyone should be worried about getting lynched =.=.... you die => game over >.<....
and i dont trust you either 
let me summaries: you inspected him as a test for his reaction? and i vote for you bc you are inspecting too early? and now that google spread guy is inspecting me since i voted for you? ~_~... wow thats confusing...
If you were red you would stay low.... hmmm, i dont know about that. This is my 1st time playing this game online but i think mostly this is the game of "power". The more Power you gain, the more people will listen to you and the more people will try to get rid of you... Balancing is the way to go who ever you are. (stating this fact will make me get killed most likely -.-)
again, most likely i will change my vote so w.e.
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