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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
July 29 2010 14:57 GMT
#32
/in
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
August 06 2010 00:06 GMT
#158
Pandain!!! Secret Friendship?
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
August 06 2010 00:32 GMT
#174
On August 06 2010 09:28 LSB wrote:
Puts a funny picture to increase my post count. I don't want to be a probe forever! And I don't want to die, I'm new and I don't know anyone :S

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


(Btw, when does this probe thingy go away, 1000?)


Scum play, trying to distract us with a funny picture so that we get off the scent of RED scum =]
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
August 06 2010 00:56 GMT
#183
yo man, this is serious business lawl
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
August 06 2010 01:48 GMT
#201
or do you?! dum dum DUMMMMMMMMMMM
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
August 06 2010 13:52 GMT
#348
BM, the whole role claiming idea really doesn't work cause we don't know how many people have each role. Obviously if there's 5 people claiming DT then, yeah you have a case but mafia will probably spread their claims across the roles. While I don't think you're mafia right now, I think it's a pretty bad plan.
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
August 06 2010 13:56 GMT
#350
how are we confirming the person who claims? There's no role count. We'd either have to have a Vigi claim or Ninja since they have the easiest way of showing us that they are who they are (using KP). But even that can get messed up if mafia stacks a hit or something so it looks like only 3 hits went down.
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
August 06 2010 14:00 GMT
#351
I do however like the perpetually bus-ing part of it, that's a pretty awesome way of keeping someone alive.
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
August 06 2010 14:06 GMT
#353
Though I guess the vigi/ninja could kill someone and then claim it. If there's a counterclaim then what? do we kill the first one to claim or the second one to claim? Either way I guess we find a mafia?
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
August 06 2010 14:24 GMT
#358
On August 06 2010 23:20 rastaban wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2010 23:00 zeks wrote:
Couple things come to mind:
1. Scum is the person that claims
2. Eventually we might be suspicious of the claimer and a DT checks him - perfect opportunity for the framer
3. Who would we bus to take hits?

Dont mind new ideas but I suggest we leave plans until after 1 night of actions has taken place

What I think of BM:
I honestly don't think he's serious about his mass roleclaim plan. Probably just a ploy to seem radical - the more shit he stirs up within town the less likely scum will hit him because it seems like he's playing a stupid townie role (scum loves to keep these people).

I think BM is very likely to live for a couple of days, but if things start going downhill he should be somewhere on the top of our hitlists


If scum claims great, we traded the vigis possible shot for a deffinate lynch - good for town
The benefit of using the vig is that he can prove himself by shooting someone. If that night there are 4 hits and the person we asked to be shot gets hit as well he is 100% confirmed.

if there are 3 hits then it doesn't mean he is guilty he is instead still questionable and either we now have a red or we forced the mafia to hold a shot because they want to discredit our confirmed townie.


Really the danger I see is that there are 0 or 2 vigis, if this was another role, say doctor then I would be worried about 2 legits, but it isn't it is vig, no way town has 2 of them, especially with so many claimants. I would be more worried that we might not have a vig at all, but I think that is unlikely since the town probably need it to help balance out the many other KP roles currently in this game.

Plus it is named wannabe batman!! I personally don't think the host would come up with such lovingly crafted descriptions and names for roles and then decline to have even 1 of them in a 30 person game. There is one and only one vig this game I would give it a 98% probability (hey that is 10% higher than I gave bum being town last game )



We could bypass the whole, mafia withheld a vote thing and just make it a 1v1 claim/counterclaim situation if vigi kills someone first and then claims it.
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
August 06 2010 14:26 GMT
#359
Cause if vigi comes out now, he could just be roleblocked and then framed. And if it's a mafia then they can say they were roleblocked/framed too so there's no real way we can check him.
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
August 06 2010 14:44 GMT
#364
On August 06 2010 23:41 KF91 wrote:
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On August 06 2010 23:34 rastaban wrote:
the other option is that if we have a counter claim we protect neither and have them both shoot each other, the vig dies taking out a red. I almost like this plan method better.


But what are going to do for Day 2/Night 2? It's not like we have an endless supply of vigis to keep this plan going. And losing our vigi on Night 1 doesn't sound good to me. Although most of the time, vigis prove to be useless in catching the mafia, sometimes they can pull it off.

I am definitely against vigis roleclaiming on Day 1.


Well vigi's real role is just a mafia and be done with it so a 1 for 1 trade is pretty good actually.
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
August 06 2010 14:44 GMT
#365
just to hit a mafia*
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
August 06 2010 14:49 GMT
#368
From what I see, bad plan. So much risk for the town while the mafia has to give a small effort to make sure that the town is screwed over.

- If mafia roleclaims as a blue, this plan won't work period.
- If a real blue does roleclaim, but the bus driver buses the wrong person, we could hit another blue (Perhaps one of out DTs or medics)
- The mafia has power-roles that could turn this plan onto the town and the town could be lynching townies on Day 2/3 depending on if this plan is actually implemented.

IMO, single roleclaims=bad at any point of the game. Or actually, any type of roleclaims; while it may prove useful to the town, it will always help mafia in killing blues.


From where I'm looking at it right now, there's actually very little risk.

Vigi pops someone night one
Vigi claims.
There is going to be a counterclaim
We lynch one of them, if we lynch real vigi, then the other claimer is mafia
If we lynch mafia, then it's 90% sure that the other claimer is vigi unless if two mafia claim/counterclaim, but then the REAL vigi would claim too.

And so either way mafia need to come out of the woodworks to fuck the plan up.and they end up exposed.
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
August 06 2010 14:51 GMT
#369
Ok, then vigi can just put it into motion on night 2 instead. It's a good plan though and should be put on the backburner.
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
August 06 2010 16:20 GMT
#375
On August 07 2010 00:52 Misder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2010 23:49 chaoser wrote:
From what I see, bad plan. So much risk for the town while the mafia has to give a small effort to make sure that the town is screwed over.

- If mafia roleclaims as a blue, this plan won't work period.
- If a real blue does roleclaim, but the bus driver buses the wrong person, we could hit another blue (Perhaps one of out DTs or medics)
- The mafia has power-roles that could turn this plan onto the town and the town could be lynching townies on Day 2/3 depending on if this plan is actually implemented.

IMO, single roleclaims=bad at any point of the game. Or actually, any type of roleclaims; while it may prove useful to the town, it will always help mafia in killing blues.


From where I'm looking at it right now, there's actually very little risk.

Vigi pops someone night one
Vigi claims.
There is going to be a counterclaim
We lynch one of them, if we lynch real vigi, then the other claimer is mafia
If we lynch mafia, then it's 90% sure that the other claimer is vigi unless if two mafia claim/counterclaim, but then the REAL vigi would claim too.

And so either way mafia need to come out of the woodworks to fuck the plan up.and they end up exposed.


Doesn't this still raise the risk of Vigi hitting a blue role though? I thought that was the reason that Vigi doesn't hit as soon as possible.


I think the chances of hitting a blue are pretty small and even if they do hit a blue, if the plan pans out then town gains control of the game via 1 confirmed role.
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
August 06 2010 16:22 GMT
#376
And even if the plan is put into affect, there's still a 50/50 chance the plan will just become a trade, 1 vigi for 1 mafia. Or it can succeed and town's got a 90% confirmed role. Either way town is ahead because of the plan.
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
August 06 2010 16:57 GMT
#386
On August 07 2010 01:54 larjarse wrote:
TBH rastaban is also looking quite suspicious. He is trying to do so much planning as a townie. I WANT THE MAN DEAD


lawl, this is funny
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
August 06 2010 18:13 GMT
#396
On August 07 2010 02:26 ~OpZ~ wrote:
Okay. Vigi should claim Day 2 IMO because he can't use his night kill til night 2. The vigi can openly suggest his target, meds protect target. If 2 people die that night, and dude is protected from a hit then BAM, we have a huge circle formed with meds confirming the vigi, DT's can openly claim to vigi or use a mouth, Bus Driver should stay hidden I feel...except to maybe the meds.

And if it is a mafia ploy? We'd have netted two mafia. The fake vigi claimer, and the dude who was hit by the vigi because he would have to have been protected. All medics should protect the guy getting vigi'd so they get the protection message, or mafia would have to use all KP to stop the plan, GIVING us quite a few more days...


Two points though 1) mafia's got a roleblocker so they could just block the vigi that claims. 2) If mafia stack hits on people then the plan might get thrown out of whack.
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
August 06 2010 22:48 GMT
#430
wow....one chezinu I can take...two though? GG
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