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On August 05 2010 15:25 BloodyC0bbler wrote: wheres pyrr to epically bandwagon you C'mon, he's even admitting it! How are we letting this shit go on in OUR town? ##vote DarthThienAn | ||
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On August 06 2010 10:22 Divinek wrote: yay lets go through the same discussion we do at the start of every game! im just waiting for the day that we actually lynch an inactive person day 1 that turns out to be mafia, ie never I'm pretty sure we got a red like this before. RebirthofLegend I think. Nevertheless, I think we should vote on behavior this time around. | ||
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On August 06 2010 15:00 VayeshMoru wrote: I have just spent time reading some of the game Bill Murray just ran. I seem to be be at a crossroads now. The town last game early on was against random bandwagons starting. But I see this what would be defined as a mistake I suppose happening again. Is this meant to draw information? Although this early on I don't see how it would give you much to go on. If I understand how this game should be done, should we not be concentrating on a more logical method for our lynching? I think it would be at least prudent if we discussed who was getting votes and why. As of now I see Divinek and Bill Murray tied at 3 votes. After looking at this, then comparing to what has been said, why are there no reasons posted? Is this method not too chaotic? How about we discuss how all the shoes you make end up looking like murder evidence? | ||
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On August 06 2010 13:12 youngminii wrote: DT can use a proxy townie like was done last game with Zeks and lakrismamma. Also, how did the mafia suck at blue sniping last game? They got every single blue long before the end of the game (and the end of the game was significantly shortened BECAUSE they sniped every blue). You were the one playing like a total scrub early game, linking pretty much all the blues together and accusing them as a group of scum (remember your PM parade telling everyone to lynch Subversion?). I hope people don't use PMs to the same effect this game, I'd say stay very wary of most PMs early game (case in point: Subversion revealing to Pandain that he was DT without having checked Pandain, Pandain was in fact a miller, but still could have been very dangerous). I never found out how Subversion's DT role got leaked, that was well and truly stupid as fuck. Subversion handed it out to Protractinium, I believe. | ||
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On August 06 2010 13:40 VayeshMoru wrote: How was I mistake for someone in this game? Perplexing James, you can't keep going directly from highly poetic English to broken, learned-as-a-second-language English. It's giving me whiplash. Neither style matches your trademark parenthesis usage shown in the posts from when you first posted from this account in July. | ||
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Indeed  . | ||
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On August 06 2010 14:32 DarthThienAn wrote: Who said I was trying to imitate Chezinu last game? I've already said that Chez's style is much better than what I did last game, and takes more effort than I cared to take at the time. That said, your play wasn't all that great last game either youngminii. The difference is that you were playing seriously and I wasn't, until the end. Don't use your supposed laziness as an indication of your superiority. | ||
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On August 06 2010 14:59 youngminii wrote: Or maybe BM's busy with real life, like he was for 203948230 hours last game. How would being busy have an impact on response to receiving votes? It could make him more or less active but this has nothing to do with activity level. God this is so weird how no one is on when I do my posting... Happened last game, too. I guess I do my posting when prime time is crossing the vast pacific ocean so it makes sense. | ||
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On August 06 2010 15:18 BrownBear wrote: Targeting inactives is the best way to go right now. To that end, I'm voting Jayme, who has not posted since his signup post, unless I missed something. Jayme posted in the thread 24 minutes before this post :-/. | ||
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On August 06 2010 17:26 Bill Murray wrote: As a town, we would really do well to coordinate and roleclaim in my opinion. Bluesniping would be easier, but honestly here at TL we are great at blue sniping. I haven't even HEARD the term blue sniping elsewhere. I'm guessing it comes from muta micro, but I'm not sure.  My suggestion is that we coordinate better if we know what units we have on the field. The mafia will be forced to lie, and if we coordinate early enough there is no way we can lose all of our good pieces. Every game where I've seen people nameclaim or roleclaim I've seen the town win as far as I can remember. Do you guys want to win? I am very competitive. I know I like to. I will risk my life for you guys. Feel free to claim to me. If everyone would just trust me this one time, we could have an epic game. Dude, just shut up and let us kill you already before I figure out who the sixth and final member of your team is. Y'all have been so obvious about this when you should have just kept your cool and waited for people to change their joke votes. Instead, you freaked out with well over 24 hours left in the day and only a few votes on your precious comedian. If anyone legit claims to him you should be permanently banned from TL mafia. I'm not really joking although I am too kind hearted to follow through on this. Feel free to spam his inbox with joke claims, though, it could distract him from coordinating what they do next. In fact, I encourage this. ##vote Bill Murray | ||
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On August 06 2010 18:43 youngminii wrote: Okay apparently BM can't see what's wrong with his plan. I shall outline them for you. If you are scum, we lose instantly. If you are town, 6 people will lie and you won't know who lied and who didn't and you can't publicly reveal them without exposing their identity. What are you going to do when all 6 scum claims town? Hmm? Oh right, nothing. Do you really, really, really think every single person will claim to you? Do you know how hard organisation is, especially on a forum? What are you going to do when the framer frames people? Uh oh. Can't be fucked listing anymore. He doesn't need everyone to claim - anything he gets is just icing on the cake. Unfortunately for him, it is icing on a cake that is otherwise very unpalatable to him. Even if we followed the plan, I really feel like I have four of his teammates down. That seems too cocksure so I probably have something mixed up but this is the surest I've been about a red list ever (I've played as red a lot more than other roles, though). Also, 9 people will lie. You forgot ninjas, youngminii. So we will get at least 9 liars to pick through, 3 of which will be ninjas we don't need to kill. Actually, we will have at least 10 liars because I already sent the following PM to BM: "I am bus driver vigilante fake-batman detective slash ninja. Slash townie." He responded: "so you only have one life" Which only goes to show he is more interested in bragging about how he will bring his kp to bear against me for my transgression than to chastise me for not following his super pro-town plan. If this is how BM plays town normally... wow. "Worst" and "ever" come readily to mind. He's mafia though so I don't feel the pang of being harsh. On top of the 10 liars, plenty of people who see through this won't send their role in (read:hopefully everyone). DTA gets it. Everyone else should, too. I'm a little disappointed that you are humoring him, youngminii. I don't want to go into my list of his allies until he flips red, just in case I am on the wrong track. No need for the distraction anyway, but I'll get it out after the lynch and before they can stack me to death. + Show Spoiler + FAQ: Q: Why didn't you go to sleep? A: I tried but my room is too hot and I wasn't getting to sleep so I decided to check the thread again. | ||
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I was just relying on DTA's analysis from this post: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=139517¤tpage=12#226 3/30 seems very round to me. 2 seems too low for it to be interesting. 4 and there would be too much chaos - the whole game would swing based on what ninjas were doing and the town vs. mafia battle would be as meaningless as what quidditch players do before the golden snitch appears. I guess if BM is truly innocent or the ninjas know 3 is not the real number I could be okay. But I don't want that to happen. Right now I think the case against BM is solid and I can present more evidence if need be. Tomorrow I'll go through his previous games to see if youngminii's thoughts have any real significance. If he flips red we have a great path forward that doesn't require me to be alive after tonight so I'm not too worried. | ||
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As for BM's, I posted my joke claim to him earlier. I'm fucking with him because I know he's red. Why would a ninja care so much to lynch someone on day 1 or send PMs around bragging about being a ninja? I'm not stupid. | ||
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On August 06 2010 19:25 Bill Murray wrote: I am not a fucking jester if you all lynch me the town is being wasteful Pyrrhuloxia, there is no fucking way you know at least "4 of my teammates", unless you are mafia, and have deducted a list of town, but then you could still have a ninja mixed in and might be wrong even then. I do not see why you are throwing walls of text and tunneling on me at all. Could it be because you are trying to push a policy lynch and stifle any real discussion? I ended the RVS so we could actually discuss what we are going to do as a town. Why would you want to end the stage of the game where the town throws ideas out there? I'm sorry you disagree with my idea. Usually the town does, but that doesn't mean that we wouldn't win if we used it. After having just modded the last game, I realized something: The people the mafia try to kill are the ones that are trying to organize things (Subversion, zeks, laxercannon, etc), not the ones who are trying to policy lynch or are overly emotional (DTA, you, BrownBear, even me in past games) You know why the mafia won't try to kill me this game? Because I am like Stonewall Jackson, shot by my own troops. When I flip blue you all will really feel like idiots. You aren't trying to organize town. You are fishing for blues like you were in your PMs to Pandain. I am fine for ideas, but asking all blues to day 1 claim to a sketchy as fuck player is not a plan. I could see your point in that in your game town should have mass claimed and didn't. However, in this game WE DON'T HAVE BLUE COUNTS. Totally fucking different. There are blue roles that might not even be in the game that are in the first post. A mafia claiming one of those would be set up pretty well. We would get next to nothing out of it even if you were innocent. If you were pro-town, you could at least suggest someone else or come up with a way someone could earn trust. But asking for it on the brink of death just screams mafia with nothing left to lose. You ended the RVS so you could start a bandwagon on Divinek to save yourself. It was only about your suspicion for him and how it was "real" and how everything on you was a joke to be ignored. You only started talking plans after rastaban rightfully lol'd at your diversion and nipped it in the bud. Nice attempt to rewrite history, though. Where did I tell town to stop discussing plans? All I did was point out how sketchy you were, which I find to be a much better lynch than inactivity. If someone has ideas for what to do with ninjas, feel free to discuss that. If someone has a good idea for how the bus driver can be used in a pro-town way, please post it. I have a feeling that in many hands the bus driver would be used for just screwing around. If you have a mass roleclaim idea that doesn't involve everyone claiming to the scummiest player in the game, I am all ears. I am not even ready to write off all plans of that type. But Bill Murray is not the player to receive claims, by any means. | ||
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On April 18 2010 05:33 Bill Murray wrote: OK. Big FoS on Zona/BC for completely ignoring my valid strategy of making people pitted against each other. If we have player A vs player B we will be able to learn who the assassins are through having them strategically fight each other. If neither one is an assassin, we can have them roleclaim. I know that a lot of people on TL are against roleclaiming like this, but it is very beneficial to the town. Good points from this: 1) we learn who the assassins are 2) assassins have an equal chance of killing other assassins 3) we will be able to see people who are unable to kill each other This is the same approach that was attempted to be taken in Caller's last Mafiya. It was a very good strategy, and should have been followed. I feel that BC is probably town, but I'm getting serious scummy vibes from Zona. He's trying to derail the town, and is more than likely scum. Bill Murray's role this game? Godfather. Zona pointed out how stupid this was and BM immediately FoS'd him as an Assassin (called Ninjas in this game). I'm getting deja vu here already. + Show Spoiler + It is ~4 AM here now. I've given up on sleep. I'll take a nap during the day. Proleague finals is Friday night / saturday morning anyway so my sleep schedule was gonna be ruined regardless. | ||
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(see citizen in XXVIII, even though it was kinda justified). I think it hit me when last game how well BC and his scummers were sniping roles based on posts. If you can think like you are the most important when you post, you will be such a threat to mafia. In a previous game, I said "Dont be afraid to die" but I guess that can be misleading, because I dont want you running out there saying "LYNCH ME" -_- just be willing to put yourself on the chopping block if you really disagree with what someone says or does.
