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vnlegend
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States1389 Posts
July 20 2010 23:30 GMT
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The above is a BUILD ORDER page from the mighty Liquipedia.

What's wrong with this picture? I can't see any build orders.

Sure you'll say "you're just lazy," but that's BS.

Let's say I'm visiting the NY Times to read an article. But guess what? Every time I'm reading an article, the part that I want to know about is hidden, and I have to click on it to reveal it. This is completely retarded and unnecessary. The NY Times site would die and whoever did this would be fired so fast.

The overuse of spoilers and other hide-this-scripts is ridiculous. Which legitimate news and article sites do this to annoy their readers? What ever happened to actually learning how to format pages and paragraphs?
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Saracen
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5139 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-21 00:18:46
July 21 2010 00:18 GMT
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EDIT: Nevermind
baller
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
527 Posts
July 21 2010 00:37 GMT
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Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25980 Posts
July 21 2010 00:40 GMT
#4
I guess it's a fair criticism, but I think your analogy to the NYT is unfounded. I mean, imagine if I wanted to read the article and this massive list of numbers and buildings was pushing all the content down. It just depends what you're looking for.
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Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
July 21 2010 00:46 GMT
#5
Why are you so angry?
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flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
July 21 2010 01:37 GMT
#6
I'm considering printscreening baller's post haahahah.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
MorningMusume11
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3490 Posts
July 21 2010 03:54 GMT
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I Wonder what happens when I quote this
Julmust
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Sweden4867 Posts
July 21 2010 03:57 GMT
#8
The reason for us at liquipedia doing this is layout. A good layout on a page is really important and bombarding a new user with information just makes the whole page easier to read. As you see in the article you took a screenshot off there are two variations of this build. If these two variations would both be listed as soon as you get on the page you wont get a proper overview of the page and the build might seem more confusing then it is.

But this is not set in stone, if most of our users dislike this way of working then ofc we'll change but this is the first complaint as far as I know so I do not see it beeing changed right now.
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Perdition
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
American Samoa77 Posts
July 21 2010 08:34 GMT
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I thought this was hilarious. Hopefully there won't be abuse of this feature.
The richest man is not he who has the most, but he who needs the least.
MaxField
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2386 Posts
July 23 2010 03:54 GMT
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On July 21 2010 09:37 baller wrote:
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Yes i did Go all the way to the end of your spoiler and i am glad that i did.
"Zerg, so bad it loses to hydras" IdrA.
Trion
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada291 Posts
July 26 2010 01:32 GMT
#11
Quite a let down. Went all the way to the end of the spoiler and there was nothing!!
SilentCrono
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1420 Posts
July 26 2010 02:15 GMT
#12
On July 26 2010 10:32 Trion wrote:
Quite a let down. Went all the way to the end of the spoiler and there was nothing!!


tbh, i was expecting something along the lines of "wow you have no life" at the end of that spoiler. at least it would have been slightly amusing.
♞ Your soul will forever be lost in the void of a horse. ♞
vnlegend
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States1389 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-26 22:28:22
July 26 2010 22:27 GMT
#13
Layout?? Right...... the page is called "xxx BUILD ORDER". The most important thing to show on this page would be the build order itself. The other text is merely accessory to the core subject that is the build order.

As for formatting, spoilers are never useful or necessary, that is why companies who operate websites don't use them (Wikipedia, Blizzard, the world).

Example: this is a long page (http://us.starcraft2.com/features/heroes/raynor.xml). Instead of putting random spoilers every 30 seconds for things, the people who wrote this page simply formatted the pages to include those things in a streamlined fashion.


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