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On June 23 2010 02:06 YellowInk wrote: It's already been answered by another player sufficiently, but I think there's something else worth considering in a team game. If you get a read on one player as mafia and their teammate as town, do you accuse them? Would you hang them for it? My answer to this question would be 'yes'. Remember that if we all appear to be town, the mafia wins most games, so the generic strategy for mafia is to appear to be town - preferably without helping them too much. If you get a read on someone as mafia you need to put it to good use. Now extrapolate to a semi or even fully active team member and an inactive teammate. We have an inactive 'read' on one player and a whatever (lets assume town for sake of argument) read on the active player. Is this someone to consider hanging? I again say 'yes'. Of course we go after the red as a priority, so like in any other game, targeting an inactive is something you do when you don't feel sufficiently confident about a read on anyone else. Now if the one person is posting so much that the activity basically makes up for the other player being inactive, I'd give them consideration for a pass on this. The point is that we need every player to be active so that we have as many different reads on as many different teams as possible allowing us to root out the red. Allowing one player to be inactive (or even just semi-inactive / laying low) could allow their potentially skilled mafia teammate to be more elaborate in their lies or deception without worry of cross team tripups. This is why I think a hard stance against inactivity is appropriate even here in this team game. since i view you as red, we should lynch your entire team? if I feel like you are posting like you did when you were a yellow turban, i shouldn't sit idly while you try to ruin my game? such wise words from someone who is likely to be scum. perhaps you are doing the exact thing you're saying scum will do: so the generic strategy for mafia is to appear to be town - preferably without helping them too much. ?I am going to assume we are out of the RVS, and use this hypocrisy as the basis for my voting you. You are doing exactly what you'd advocate red to do - appearing town without helping all that much. Instead of discussing what someone would do... why are you even thinking of that, by the way?... you should be scumhunting but are not. Even L's obvious OMGUS is a lot less suspicious to me than this. | ||
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On June 23 2010 02:25 YellowInk wrote: Yes. You’re going to need to stop muddying the waters with your code if you want me to reply to you. Why are you calling me an article of clothing? What is a yellow turban supposed to mean? I think my posts are doing a decent job of drawing out scummy accusations. People are generating suspicion based on my words. At this point, I don’t actually believe you have a red read on me. I don’t know if that means you’re red yourself or just trying to draw something out of me that might actually give you a red read. That being said, the coded messages are obnoxious. Knock it off. I want to be able to go back and reread the thread without having memorized or kept notes or retranslate every single code that you and your buddy decide to post. All they do is muddy the water – something scummy players love to do when they can make it appear innocuous. Nice try at trying to shake your mud off and put it on me -- it's not going to work. You are in line with your scum meta this game, and since you've come into the spotlight, i will not let you out of it or you are gone, lynched, donzo. period. by taking the spotlight like you did you are either anti town who will not stay in the spotlight and are going to be lynched or you are going to help the town by staying in the spotlight you have created for yourself. as to people who dislike encoding messages, i do not specifically see where we cannot communicate with other pro town members in the thread. i'm sure the people who are complaining (radfield and korynnes team, and team 5) are actually the teams likely to be mafia from my perspective, which is why they're complaining. Newer players, notice how YellowInk has no logical argument towards me so he has to use colors with his posts to back up his weakness? | ||
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On June 23 2010 03:19 YellowInk wrote: This isn't a noob game. I'm not about to run to the mountaintops screaming "I'm town I'm town!" and expect it to hold any weight. Also, the game isn't large enough to even consider this kind of strategy even if it were a noob game. It's very kind of you to not bandwagon me just yet. It does make you sound a little less bloodthirsty, no? I fear you will not like my response. While your thoughts here are fair that we need to get on with targeting people for lynching, you propose a truly awful strategy. First, a 9 player game can last about 4 days. Essentially what you are suggesting is that the DT not reveal until the endgame. While this can be a decent idea, it really entirely depends on the circumstances. If the DT finds a townie and says X is a townie on day 2, this can be very helpful depending on the setup. The mafia can only kill one person. I don’t think the DT should do this sort of thing unless person X or the DT is about to get hung, though. Once the DT comes out, they’re either going to get hit or roleblocked the following night. This brings me to the second point in your strategy. You talk about a medic protecting the DT. If there is both a medic and a DT in the game, the mafia will know it because they have a roleblocker. In such a case, the mafia would almost surely roleblock the DT to prevent any further info gathering and kill someone else in hopes to hit the medic. This renders the DT wholly ineffective and the medic, at best, is on their own. This is the purpose of the existence of the mafia roleblocker. The way this is all presented makes me think that you already know these things and furthermore that you have a roleblocker on your team. I’ll be opening up my voting by casting it for Bumatlarge. Wow. Lynch this guy. First, the mafia won't know shit if they have a roleblocker They can have a roleblocker while we have 7 townies, they don't know anything WE can also not be sure to have a detective at all I was about to take my vote off of you, but the way you are acting, it is staying there for the rest of the game. Also, advising DT not to go to lategame is ill informed in my opinion as well. Every DT messup i've ever really seen has occurred by the DT revealing too early I also dislike the negative near-omgus you are directing towards bumatlarge. While his play may be scummy scummy play doesn't always = scum. I am not saying carry him into a lynch or lose scenario, but that he is not acting nearly as scummy as other people, namely you. | ||
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[Setup 2] - 1 Mafia Goon 1 Mafia Roleblocker 7 Townies | ||
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On June 23 2010 03:24 Korynne wrote: BM, how is talking in morse code helpful in the thread? Anyone can put it into a morse code translator. If you wish to speak in code in hopes that somehow magically other townies but not mafia will be able to decipher it, be my guest. But I find the whole addition of morse code or binary or any other simple translatable using google form of cryptic communication useless and disruptive to people when they want to analyze the thread. you mean to say that it is unfair to you because you and your scumbuddy team #5 are the only ones who are capable of using IRC to coordinate with other teams? | ||
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On June 23 2010 03:27 YellowInk wrote: I am fine with being in the spotlight. Whether I am lynched is always up to the town. Honestly, if I weren't me, I'd be suspect of myself if I were quiet, where being loud gives no credit either for or against me. Your contrived explanations to turn up the heat on me where it's not due is kind of silly, though. Is my last post logical enough for your tastes? @BM I think I was pretty clear that I wasn't shaking mud on you. I'm not sure why you continue to place heat on me unreasonably. That you persist in this fashion is sketchy, but I've known players with your style before and it's fine. The fact that you are continuously getting heat from me is because your play is deteriorating are you are completely misinterpreting the setup and passing along heinously wrong information to the players who are uninformed. I am fine with being in the spotlight. Whether I am lynched is always up to the town. Honestly, if I weren't me, I'd be suspect of myself if I were quiet, where being loud gives no credit either for or against me. Your contrived explanations to turn up the heat on me where it's not due is kind of silly, though. How is you misinterpreting the thread and trying to push forward anti-town and negative ideas CONTRIVED? It isn't. You are my #1 scum candidate. A second reason is your OMGUS vote of Bumatlarge after the RVS in which this shit shouldn't be allowed to happen. You are approaching the point where you will be lynched by the better players for sheer policy. Either way you look at it, if you back off the spotlight, or continue to make mistakes, you will go from FoS to being hammered by someone. | ||
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On June 23 2010 04:56 Korynne wrote: So there seems to be a bandwagon starting on YellowInk. I don't like it very much... Mainly because I believe that YellowInk is relatively easy to read, so I don't think we'll have a lot of trouble dealing with him in the later days as we would some other people *cough*L*cough*Chezinu*cough*. So I would definitely favour lynching a group of inactives or someone hard to read over lynching YellowInk. Those are my two cents on the matter. I WONDER WHY YOU DONT LIKE A TRAIN ON YOUR SCUM BUDDY LOL | ||
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On June 23 2010 04:59 YellowInk wrote: Durak, please don't get us modkilled. No edits. Ever.  @OMGUS idea: My voting for bumatlarge was not OMGUS. Once bumatlarge made the post I quoted I was almost assuredly going to vote for him on it. I waited a bit and was hoping someone else would call him out on it first as I would feel more confident that they are town - assuming bumatlarge does, in fact, turn up red. it was definitely an omgus. you voted for him literally right after he voted for you. it is omgus regardless of when you decided to do it. you are scummy regardless of if you are scum, which i am leaning towards On June 23 2010 05:03 YellowInk wrote: Chezinu has posted quite a bit but not a single thing of merit. The most content he posted was the video on being unreadable. It sure is easy to be unreadable when you don't post any content. Chez, you going to join BM's attack on me or do you have opinions of your own? Sorry you're so lonely, but I'm not going to talk Morse to you. Honestly there is a whole lot of inactivity in this thread. The list is long. This disturbs me greatly. Basically along post complaining "I'm actively lurking like scum", why don't you all do the same and hide my mafia-like behavior? On June 23 2010 05:39 YellowInk wrote: Are you saying posting nonsense is an effective way to play a blue role? How about green? If so, I am sorely disappointed. I don't think it makes you scum - I know you've been in enough games to have your own opinions about such. However it does may make you a useless town aligned role if you're NOT scum. Fortunately BM is posting a great deal of content. Unfortunately it is mostly wharrgarbl as well. If you're blue and playing this way, well that really sucks. At any rate, I'm still undecided on the BM/Chez team. They do make me laugh, but that's probably because it's the first game I've played with them. You're saying I'm posting whargarrbl when you're omgus and trying to derail the thread from proper scumhunting... FURTHERMORE, you are also attacking my solely because I am attacking you. You fail to scumhunt someone other than your attacker, which is another form of OMGUS. Your arguments with me are beginning to appear town on town to me, though, so if you are mafia you are doing better than you were previously. On June 23 2010 05:43 LaXerCannon wrote: I believe we shouldn't vote off useless people unless it's to the point that it hinders the town's progress. That being said, they're next to go if we can't get any good behavioral analysis. To the possible Medic/DT: My advice is to stay unpredictable. Don't do too much analysis to the point where you're a threat and don't lay too low that you get killed. For the possible DT: I think checking the teams of three would be a good start as one of them flipping red would mean the rest of the team flipping red (unless I've misinterpreted the rules) Ace just wants the only people who actually scumhunt to be offed... plus after what Chezinu did to him in mini mafia III i don't blame him for hating chez for the last 8 months. zing | ||
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radfield, is it wrong to vote someone who acts scummy when you KNOW they are town or townie? Yes, it is. You know this. If it wasn't then half of teamliquid would deserve policy lynching. | ||
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On June 23 2010 10:45 BrownBear wrote: Yass, I am back! I now have cast my vote for Team Two, for the following reasons: + Show Spoiler [Reasons!] + On June 23 2010 02:13 Bill Murray wrote: since i view you as red, we should lynch your entire team? if I feel like you are posting like you did when you were a yellow turban, i shouldn't sit idly while you try to ruin my game? such wise words from someone who is likely to be scum. perhaps you are doing the exact thing you're saying scum will do: ? I am going to assume we are out of the RVS, and use this hypocrisy as the basis for my voting you. You are doing exactly what you'd advocate red to do - appearing town without helping all that much. Instead of discussing what someone would do... why are you even thinking of that, by the way?... you should be scumhunting but are not. Even L's obvious OMGUS is a lot less suspicious to me than this. Especially on day 1, there isn't really anything wrong with saying apparently obvious stuff like this: there are new people in this game, and, in their own words: On June 22 2010 22:39 Durak wrote:This is my first game of mafia so my skill level is noob. When it gets suspicious is when people start to take really surface-level stuff like this into late game. However, this is Day 1, so we can't really get a read on YI yet. I agree with his statement too (and I know this may be damning myself, considering the accusations flying around Jspazz already, but hey, YI is right and it should be acknowledged). I think you know this is a good idea yourself, but you are trying to muddle up his idea in random accusations. Not cool. On June 23 2010 03:26 Bill Murray wrote: you mean to say that it is unfair to you because you and your scumbuddy team #5 are the only ones who are capable of using IRC to coordinate with other teams? VERY combative, especially early on. This is also a pretty baseless accusation, a thinly veiled insult, and completely unhelpful to the game. And she was right, y'know. Its disruptive. But when you translate it... (quoted jspazz because he was awesome and translated it already) On June 23 2010 06:38 johnnyspazz wrote: oh man i feel like a detective! Ok then... this is a VERY thinly veiled medic claim. I doublechecked the translation using the following site: http://morsecode.scphillips.com/jtranslator.html and it is accurate to the best of my knowledge. So congrats, you guys claimed medic. On day 1. All we know out of this is that you for sure aren't medic... but why even try to claim in the first place. If you are town (or god forbid, actually medic), you've basically committed suicide, as mafia don't really have much to go on with their night 1 kill, so they might as well try to see if they can nail one of the two blue roles in the game (if there are any, anyway). If you survive... it just really makes you look scummy. The only way I can see this being a good idea would be if you somehow discovered who the real medic was (on DAY FREAKIN ONE), convinced them you were town, and claimed so that the mafia would hit you, but the medic could protect you, thus wasting a mafia KP ...hmm, that's actually not a bad strategy if you can pull it off, but I reiterate. It's DAY FREAKIN ONE. There's no way you found the medic (if there is one) that quickly. There's also the possibility that you and Chez were just fucking around with that claim... but I doubt it. Chez might be random, but you, BM, usually post stuff for a reason. And I think that you are lying. And I don't like liars. I could do some analysis on chez... but right now he's too random to get a read on. If people really want me to I can try later, but for now, following YI's idea... one scum read on a team should be enough to lynch that team. Thus, I say Team Two should be our target for today. Brownbear:+ Show Spoiler + -... .-. --- .-- -. -... . .- .-. --..-- .-- .... . -. -.-- --- ..- ... .- -.-- -.-. --- -. ...- .. -. -.-. . -.. - .... . -- -.-- --- ..- .-- . .-. . - --- .-- -. --..-- .- -. -.. -.-. .-.. .- .. -- . -.. ... --- - .... .- - - .... . -- .- ..-. .. .- .-- --- ..- .-.. -.. .... .. - -.-- --- ..- --..-- -... ..- - - .... . -- . -.. .. -.-. -.-. --- ..- .-.. -.. .--. .-. --- - . -.-. - -.-- --- ..- --..-- - .... ..- ... .-- .- ... - .. -. --. .- -- .- ..-. .. .- -.- .--. --..-- .- .-. . -.-- --- ..- - .-. -.-- .. -. --. - --- .--- --- .. -. --- ..- .-. - --- .-- -. -.-. .. .-. -.-. .-.. . -... -.-- -.-. .... . -.-. -.- .. -. --. --- ..- .-. .- .-.. .. --. -. -- . -. - --..-- --- .-. -.-. .-.. .- .. -- .. -. --. - --- .-- -. .. . --..-- --- .-. .- .-. . -.-- --- ..- - .-. -.-- .. -. --. - --- -.- .. .-.. .-.. ..- ... ..--.. | ||
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For me the whole fun of this setup is that you get to make decisions as a team, and get to bounce your ideas off of each other about who you think is scummy, or who you think might be blue, etc.
