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Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
June 14 2010 10:26 GMT
#7
If this is Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows shouldn't + Show Spoiler +
Dumbledore be dead?


Also, I'm in.
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
June 20 2010 11:07 GMT
#84
While we're waiting for the game to start....


3. This is a game. Have fun. Personal attacks will not be tolerated. "You roleclaim like a dirty jew" is acceptable. "Go fuck yourself" is not. You know the difference, just don't get mad.


Does anyone else find this bizarre.....
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
June 20 2010 12:24 GMT
#85
Also, I expect Mad Eye Moody to die night one.....
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
June 21 2010 02:39 GMT
#103
OK, here we go again.

Some thoughts on the setup.

15 v 5 with a traitor (so 14 town vs 6 scum)
or
16 v 4 with a traitor (so 15 town vs 5 scum)

Not sure which is more likely, I assume the second since it seems like 15v5 is pretty standard balance wise. But given that this is a theme game(and with a magical theme), and that most players probably have an ability of some sort, I wouldn't be too surprised if its 5 mafia plus a traitor. Although, that wouldn't give us many mislynchs/mishits to work with.

Presumably there is a godfather in this game, since we have mayor/pardoner roles, and they can be alignment checked(or at least I assume so). Without a GF the mafia wouldn't bother running since the mayor/pardoner is very likely to be checked in the early game. If mafia does have a GF, it is undoubtedly Voldemort, and he likely can kill people(possibly a comp vig). Which means, if we have a tracker role, people running for mayor is a good place to track. Of course, the mafia could just as easily stay away from the vote altogether, but that's great for the town anyways.

The mafia can likely use the imperious curse. Which means, if your action obviously goes astray, and you know you've been imperioused then you need to let everyone know so that we have a better idea of what assets the mafia have. If you have a very strong role (compulsive vigilante or something) and have been compromised, you probably need to take one for the team and get killed somehow. However, I doubt we have any roles that are quite that powerful.

Thoughts? Corrections? Additions?
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
June 21 2010 02:50 GMT
#104
Never mind, BM basically told us the set-up, but for some reason did not put it in the OP:

1) I mean to say that if we get 20 people as opposed to 25 I will make it 16 vs 4


On June 21 2010 11:21 johnnyspazz wrote:
OMG GAME STARTED!
If only we had 25 players, then mass name claiming would own. Maybe we still should unless mafia were given a safe name to name claim as. Given the setup, I'm not going to be running for mayor. Never have been confident in my ability to lead. New players should not be running unless they know they are qualified to run. YellowInk, I nominate you since you were theorycrafting ways to break the game, I bet you have a great idea that helps the town.


I think BM was pretty adamant about people not name claiming. However, given that we didn't get a full slate of 25, it could be more lenient than it was before:


I will not be accepting name claims to occur in this game unless I am sure it will be balanced or your role PM specifically states otherwise.



Jspazz, reading your post gives me an idea. Perhaps we should have people only allowed to run if they are nominated by another player. This means that the mafia GF will not be able to run for mayor unless another player nominates him. Most players will not be nominated, which means another mafia will have to nominate them if they really want the position. That could very likely give us a direct link from a mafia to a GF or vise versa. It might also discourage the mafia from running.
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
June 21 2010 03:01 GMT
#106
You kinda can if you're Molly Weasley... although it's a bit vague. I like to think she uses the killing curse at the end of Book 7.
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
June 21 2010 11:13 GMT
#119
On June 21 2010 19:48 Amber[LighT] wrote:

Also mayoral candidates should consider a working list of people they think they should lynch, but don't post who you would lynch immediately. The best system is to get a majority on who the town would like to lynch, since Day 1 lynches are typically pretty random we should just make sure it's a choice the whole town is behind.


The question always seems to be, lynch someone who is inactive, or someone who is mildly scummy. Given the likelihood that we have a fair number of townies with some sort of special power, lynching an active player doesn't seem like a great idea. However, we have two days until we(the mayor) need to make a decision, and hopefully we'll have a good amount of discussion on all topics by the end, so it should be easy to pick out the contributors from the non-contributors.

Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
June 21 2010 15:49 GMT
#126
I think it's important to note that in this set-up, it's basically more important to have a pro-town pardoner then a mayor. The mayor really doesn't do much, he only gets one vote, and gets the day one lynch which is essentially meaningless. An anti-town pardoner however, can take a close game, and turn it into a mafia victory. From a mafia perspective, pardoner is a much more powerful role.

However, if we can get someone with a powerful ability(a detective/medic) as mayor, then it's a big boon for the town, since that player is unkillable for a decent amount of time.
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
June 21 2010 19:20 GMT
#142
On June 22 2010 03:22 AcrossFiveJulys wrote:
I'll go ahead and nominate amber[light] for mayor since he seems to be talking sense at this point. I'd suggest not to nominate radfield because frankly he played pretty badly and was inactive for long stretches last game.

Amber, why don't you post a plan you'd carry out as mayor, including first lynch?



Honestly I don't think I played particularly badly, I just got a little overzealous with my accusations and actions. I really don't think people looked very objectively at how I was playing. Also, I think the fact that I was shouting "AFJ is mafia" all game colours your perception a bit . However, the fact of the matter is I don't have the time right now to super hunt for mafia like I did in those first few games, but I do have enough time to be active in the thread. A big difference that I didn't account for last game.

Also, Amber[light] seems like a good candidate. However, in the interest of having more hats in the ring, I'll nominate hesmyrr. He's been quite active in each game I've played with him(maybe only 1 though?). The key is to have someone who's very very active as mayor. They need to be willing to put effort into this game, take the lead, and hunt for mafia. That's simply not me this game, and won't be for a few months. But that way if we elect a mafia we have a much better chance of discovering it. So know this mayor elects, if you are not super active after being elected, you will begin to climb the scum list. Same goes for the pardoner. I think this makes sense.


Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
June 21 2010 22:58 GMT
#149
People who have yet to post:
YellowInk
zeks
DCLXVI
Abenson

People who have posted, but no substance:
Jugan
laxercanon
Stormtemplar
Ludwig

We need some people making cases for why they should be mayor, and we need to discuss them. Hesmyrr, Amber[light], and yellowink have all been nominated. I'd love to hear your pitches guys if you're actually going to run. If anyone else has nominations then the sooner you put them forward the better.
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
June 22 2010 12:19 GMT
#199
On June 22 2010 14:34 Bill Murray wrote:
i dont mind roleclaims, but i wont let what happened in caller's game occur
i also would like to state that the minister of magic will in fact receive multiple votes


This certainly changes things. MoM is a much juicier position for mafia now, as they can effect the voting considerably. This makes it much more worth the risk to go after MoM as mafia. YellowInk seems like a smart player, and more importantly an active one, so he has my tentative vote. If you are elected YI, who will you lynch?

As far as the pardoner goes, it really doesn't make sense for them to ever use their power unless they were mafia. Going against the town majority like that will almost guarantee yourself to be lynched. I'm not sure I've ever actually seen the pardoner skill used.
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
June 22 2010 18:52 GMT
#233
@hesmyrr This is exactly why I nominated you. You just called upon like 6 people to clarify and back-up their posts. You make good quality posts, and are active in a great way. You played hard for your 'team'(townies) in callers game, and played well.

@roffles: We do actually need to start discussing the lynch, because the day ends in 4-5 hours. Unless you feel confident that the mayor will make the proper decision


I will still run on my own if Radfield doesn't feel like he wants the position as pardoner. Like I said I think I can function much better as the MoM so we need to make sure the votes are in line to have myself as no. 1, and radfield as no. 2


I'm fine being the Pardoner. I can certainly guarantee that I won't pardon anyone. Also, to clarify my activity levels: I will be active in the thread, and I'll be actively following everything that's going on. I just can't devote a ton of time to searching through posts hunting for mafia. I will still be doing this, but not to the extent I would like(It's not like I'm just going to go AFK this game). Whomever gets elected as mayor, DOES need to be doing this though, and needs to be actively leading the town. I think Amber[light] so far seems like a good candidate, Yellowink would probably also do a good job (Hesmyrr would probably do a good job as well, but he has a shaky schedule).

I will vote for myself for the moment(in an effort to be pardoner), but I'll definitely change my vote to Amber[light] if needed to ensure he gets mayor. I think he's the best candidate.

Also, checking both mayor and pardoner is a good idea, as it gives a measure of credibility to the pair(they can't both be godfather). However, here is BM's quote on Legilimancy:


Legilimency: The ability to read someone's mind. I will give you a PM on their thoughts, and you may use that information to deduce what character the person may be.


I don't think we'll be getting quite as accurate results as we are assuming. Seems like we get more of a clue as to the persons identity, then any kind of alignment check. If this is the case, it may be more difficult to determine alignment than previously thought, and depending on how familiar one is with the books, you might need to post the 'thoughts' into the thread.
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
June 22 2010 19:00 GMT
#234
As far as lynching , the safest route is to go with a non-contributing player. But someone who won't get modkilled. Of course, this basically never nets a mafia, because mafia always make sure to post enough on day 1 to not get lynched. Despite this I'm almost always in favor of voting for the more inactive player, solely on the basis that it makes the overall game more fun. I'd rather have an actively posting mafia, then a non-active townie. Also, it's very hard to distinguish between town and mafia on day 1, as I learned the hard way last game(couldn't you just have been mafia AFJ? I would have looked so good....)
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
June 22 2010 22:43 GMT
#275
On June 23 2010 06:43 johnnyspazz wrote:
well darnit, if i change my vote from amber to you yellow, then radfield wins MoM and no one wants that
sorry yellowink



Look, I don't even want to be mayor. I've already said it several times. I think both amber[light] or Yellowink would do a much better job then me, and will hopefully be more valuable to the town. I voted for myself for pardoner, for the sole reason of NOT using the pardoner role. I will absolutely change my vote off myself if it looks like I might get mayor.

Anyone who has voted without stating their reasons needs to do so now(including those who voted for me). People presumably have reasons for why they voted, and they need to explain those reasons. It gives everyone much more information to work with. No one gets a free pass with voting just because it's in another thread.
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
June 22 2010 22:53 GMT
#284
On June 23 2010 07:50 Jugan wrote:
Amber, in the post I quoted from you - were you saying that you were a mason? Just checking, because there was a little ambiguity there.


Lets hope not, since it's one of the only things Bill was adamant about not doing.
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
June 22 2010 22:53 GMT
#285
Not roleclaiming Mason that is.
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
June 23 2010 00:45 GMT
#296
I don't want to pardon.
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
June 24 2010 01:24 GMT
#324
Good Morning:

Here is a quick list of players who were far to inactive, or didn't contribute much on Day 1:
JeeJee
Jugan
subversion
Stormtemplar
Ludwig
Abenson


Please step it up to the best of your ability. I will also try to do the same.

I'm off to bed, Good Night
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
June 24 2010 15:28 GMT
#351
I will do AcrossFiveJulys and Jayme. Both voted for Amber, and both have been relatively active. Also, if everyone looks at two people, that means everyone will be analyzed twice, so don't be afraid to pick someone who's already been chosen. In particular, if someone jumps out as being scummy, check that person and don't be afraid to level an accusation at them, just be open minded to their defense.
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
June 24 2010 23:08 GMT
#378
On June 25 2010 03:07 ~OpZ~ wrote:
First another thing I noticed...Radfield didn't die night one so we should lynch him today. He's clearly mafia.

If I make it through the night in TMMM the I'm on a three game streak. Lesson to be learned: If you die enough night 1, you eventually become to conspicuous a medic target for the mafia. I hope.

My thoughts on Jayme:



Brief Post History: Good posts in bold

Talks about previous game
Against roleclaiming/nameclaiming

Softclaims blue, throws a vote to Amber[light]

comment
Talks about mayoral election in detail


So far Jayme hasn't posted much, but his posts are filled with content. He's been fairly transparent with his decision making and his reasoning. It's still early to really tell if anyone is pro-town at this point, but I don't get any kind of scum vibe. It would be nice to see a bit more activity out of him, if only to see if the posting quality can remain high.
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