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On June 11 2010 07:55 tree.hugger wrote: Also, some people very obviously did not read anything in this thread. Medics should claim something else and hatters/vets should claim dt/tracker/watcher to make it difficult to target these roles. (In other words, would you as mafia waste a night kill on someone who could 50% be a hatter or 50% vet?) You are suggesting that town members lie, this creates confusion this is a big no. As for this plan, It has already started and I think its worth it for the same reasons Radfeild said. I am a Townie. | ||
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On June 11 2010 08:22 AcrossFiveJulys wrote: rebirth no, not all town members lie, only those mentioned in L's post, which will make it difficult for mafia to target specific blues. i'm still unsure how we can get useful information out of them, though, and L has been sitting with his thumb up his ass and not filling in the details of the plan. L's post: + Show Spoiler + Hmm... Semi-open setups are tricky, since we know what roles there can be but not the number. However, since there is a given number of mafia we should be able to roughly estimate what kind of blue powers (and/or extraneous mafia powers) there are in the game. 17 people and four mafia, so the mafia comprise 23.5% of the town's population. Normally in Incognito's games, the mafia comprise a flat 20% of the total population and blue roles are adjusted based on that, and given the fact that there are more varied roles than in these more 'standard' games, I'd assume we'd have some of those. Let's see... Incognito likes Mad Hatters. I can't remember if that is his or Qatol's (perhaps both?) favourite role, but most likely there will be one Hatter. Obviously, it'd be ludicrous to say that there isn't a medic, though the question is whether or not there's one medic or two. I'm split between the numbers, since either could work... A self-saving medic is way more powerful, and that would mean there would probably only be one medic. However, Incognito has ninja'ed in the fact that medics cannot save themselves, so two medics is probable. Between the Watcher/Stalker and DT there's more likely to be a DT. Watchers and Stalkers are cute roles, and I'd count them as half a blue role. There'll probably be one of either. There is a Veteran, most likely. Since it is a passive blue role, I'd count it as a half. Because you can't have too many blue roles without balancing Mafia powers as well... There will probably be a Mafia-aligned Day vigilante, and perhaps a town-aligned one. If there are two medics (or two of anything) I'd find it more likely that there'd be a roleblocker. Probably to throw off the DT, there will be one, at most but probably not, two Millers. Of course, this is all conjectural based on how I would potentially balance a game. That is not a post by L, that is by Flamewheel and is later quoted by L on page 9. L never once says to lie about your role, individuals lying is not town beneficial because we are all under the general rule of lynch all liars. Currently the idea is "they can't kill us all before we figure out who is lying." Which is a good idea since they physically can't win the game until AT LEAST Day 6, which is a LOT of time especially if we have an idea of how the game is set up balance wise, which is why initial conjecture on potential set ups was necessary. If everyone claims something they aren't, that doesn't help us narrow down a list of suspects, do you understand? We have decided there is probably around 4-5 greens, and mafia will have a tough time faking blue roles and are most comfortable claiming green. This puts them in a very awkward position. | ||
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Although some of the things AFJ said were kind of "...wtf?" he didn't even read the rules for one of them, I generally think that is mafiaish, having not read the rules correctly because I used to just skim them when I was mafia and not read 100% because it wasn't as important, after a few fuck ups I started always reading it a couple of times. Oh and L, sorry I must of just missed that in your post, I assume when we finally confirm one player we have the Vigi/MH legitimately role claim to them via PM, so we drop some confusion. Also lol@9 greens role claiming. | ||
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