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JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
April 22 2010 18:41 GMT
#28
/in
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JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
May 01 2010 22:36 GMT
#184
btw i picked 6-1
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JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
May 01 2010 22:38 GMT
#185
i.e. ace is a jerk for rolling me last out of ..4? people


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JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
May 02 2010 00:06 GMT
#195
wtf is up with this town and picking even numbers
rofl
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JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
May 02 2010 20:11 GMT
#254
so here's the thing
unless mafia got the top 4 spots, they have a pretty good idea of who in town holds the powerful roles and will probably choose to target them over, say, citizen. otoh, if people aren't stupid, some of the ones closer to the top hopefully got bulletproof or mm to counteract this

also note, so far in this thread, the following people have claimed they don't have a role:
korynne - important role (not inv or rb) above him
jonny - silly
caller - silly
falcynn - silly
qatol - copy above him
opz - comp vig above him

i'm wondering why y'all revealed this info, but i imagine some of you are lying as docs or something which also sets up nice mindgames. if you're all telling the truth though then /facepalm

i won't be claiming my role or whether i got one, i suggest more people don't either.

the compulsive vig votes are a great idea, if you have an ounce of sense you should agree, so if someone has a problem with this plan, speak up now (so we may lynch you hurr durr)

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JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
May 03 2010 05:06 GMT
#290
um
oops

+_+
i had my reasons for being afk this wknd, should be much better this week.

btw shouldn't nights be 12hrs
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JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
May 03 2010 13:24 GMT
#309
radfield is actually making very good points; unfortunately since he's talking to bill we won't see a sensible response.

keep in mind bill's reluctance to do anything useful as of yet..

question for ace: how does the invention naming system work? can i invent a gun and call it a dt kit? or what if it's a really ambiguous thing, i.e. a beer bottle that you can hit people over the head with to roleblock them ... will it be just called beer bottle or roleblock bottle or what?

basically who decides on the name and how relevant is it to the item's function?
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JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
May 04 2010 14:30 GMT
#378
now that we know this..

# Bill Murray	inventor
# Foolishness comp vig
# Korynne VANILLA
# Falcynn VANILLA
# [NyC]HoBbes ROLE
# ~Opz~ VANILLA
# d3_crescentia MEDIC
# Caller VANILLA
# sidesprang ?
# Qatol VANILLA


let me add a piece of it as well
# JeeJee VANILLA

i didn't go for copycat so presumably we have some liars up in here
either that or hobbes is mafia
for the role that he is (or should be), he sure isn't doing shit with it.
then again neither is sidesprang so i'm at a loss here

so foolishness, who are you gonna hit tonight?
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JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
May 04 2010 14:54 GMT
#385
On May 04 2010 23:46 Radfield wrote:
This is all in addition to Jeejee's other somewhat shady posting that Bill Murray alluded to earlier. The only thing in JeeJee's favor right now is that he picked the same number as Sidesprang, which makes it unlikely for them to both be mafia. If Sidesprang flops green, then barring further info, I propose we lynch JeeJee as well. Just another reason to DayVig Sidesprang, so we can focus our CompVig shot better.


for the record, caller, sidesprang, qatol and myself numbers were the same

would be pretty friggin' stupid for mafia to do this, n'est pas?
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JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
May 04 2010 15:04 GMT
#389
hold on citizen. why would hobbes or sidesprang have lied? assuming all vanilla claism are true,it's still entirely possible one of them is copycat and the other one is my role
it still works out. of course that doesn't mean they're not mafia but in actuality my role probably isn't that desirable for mafia (and figuring they were closer to the top i'd have a better chance of getting this one) so that's another thing to keep in mind.

i'm thinking atm.
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JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
May 05 2010 18:06 GMT
#534
On May 05 2010 23:34 Radfield wrote:
I have to disagree with you Citizen, sidesprang was lynched because several things pointed to him being the mafia copycat. The only other real option was him being a very bad townie.

But moving on. JeeJee has information right now that pretty much no one else does.

Show nested quote +
i didn't go for copycat so presumably we have some liars up in here
either that or hobbes is mafia
for the role that he is (or should be), he sure isn't doing shit with it.
then again neither is sidesprang so i'm at a loss here


Now that sidesprang is gone, JeeJee is claiming that he tried for a role and failed to get it. Which means that someone above him has his role. He also is claiming that whoever that person is, is failing to use it in a pro-town manner. I've looked through the roles, and I really can't figure out which role he could be talking about though. DayVig is the only one that seems likely.

As far as who might have the role? In my mind the options are Opz, Falcynn or Hobbes. Bm and Foolishness have inventor and CV, if Korynne was lying about her pick then Foolishness would have outted her, Qatol is almost certainly telling the truth about trying for CopyCat, and everyone else is dead. Another possibility is that Foolishness and Korynne are both mafia, but I think this unlikely.

So JeeJee, if you truly think that whoever took your role is anti-town, then you should role claim, because you will likely lead us to a mafia. However, I leave the final judgement up to you, no point in outing a pro-town player's role.



you are correct, i probably know hobbes' role now, of course that's still pending whether others have lied but the way the events have unfolded so far, the claims seem legit. i think i probably understand hobbes' strategy now and it kind of makes sense.. we shall see.
atm i am leaning towards hobbes being townie so that's where we stand on that issue.

what's the plan with inventions this night? i'm still leaning towards alignment kits. maybe you can get creative and get a gun with special bullets .. if you hit a mafia, they die, if you hit a townie, nothing happens. its like an alignment kit with bullets, whooo

=)
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JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
May 05 2010 18:34 GMT
#537
^ you realize inventions just last one night right? so if bill guesses wrong (which is quite likely, ask any doc) no info is gained, no townie is saved. with an alignment kit we have persistent information.
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JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
May 05 2010 18:48 GMT
#539
Also, to be clear, I was not imagining a one time use dt kit. I meant an invention that permanently gives someone dt abilities.

it's a one time deal, radfield, it doesn't work like that. i just had that clarified.
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JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
May 05 2010 20:39 GMT
#560
bill i'm afraid you are going to have to make it transparently obvious what your invention does this night. a laptop that rolechecks does not that criteria fill.

what's your reasoning for making it as ambiguous as possible?
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JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
May 05 2010 20:42 GMT
#561
On May 06 2010 04:53 Qatol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2010 04:47 citi.zen wrote:
On May 06 2010 04:15 Qatol wrote:
On May 06 2010 04:08 citi.zen wrote:
On May 06 2010 03:06 JeeJee wrote:
On May 05 2010 23:34 Radfield wrote:
I have to disagree with you Citizen, sidesprang was lynched because several things pointed to him being the mafia copycat. The only other real option was him being a very bad townie.

But moving on. JeeJee has information right now that pretty much no one else does.

i didn't go for copycat so presumably we have some liars up in here
either that or hobbes is mafia
for the role that he is (or should be), he sure isn't doing shit with it.
then again neither is sidesprang so i'm at a loss here


Now that sidesprang is gone, JeeJee is claiming that he tried for a role and failed to get it. Which means that someone above him has his role. He also is claiming that whoever that person is, is failing to use it in a pro-town manner. I've looked through the roles, and I really can't figure out which role he could be talking about though. DayVig is the only one that seems likely.

As far as who might have the role? In my mind the options are Opz, Falcynn or Hobbes. Bm and Foolishness have inventor and CV, if Korynne was lying about her pick then Foolishness would have outted her, Qatol is almost certainly telling the truth about trying for CopyCat, and everyone else is dead. Another possibility is that Foolishness and Korynne are both mafia, but I think this unlikely.

So JeeJee, if you truly think that whoever took your role is anti-town, then you should role claim, because you will likely lead us to a mafia. However, I leave the final judgement up to you, no point in outing a pro-town player's role.



you are correct, i probably know hobbes' role now, of course that's still pending whether others have lied but the way the events have unfolded so far, the claims seem legit. i think i probably understand hobbes' strategy now and it kind of makes sense.. we shall see.
atm i am leaning towards hobbes being townie so that's where we stand on that issue.

what's the plan with inventions this night? i'm still leaning towards alignment kits. maybe you can get creative and get a gun with special bullets .. if you hit a mafia, they die, if you hit a townie, nothing happens. its like an alignment kit with bullets, whooo

=)

I love the invention suggestion. How can this harm the town? Swift justice + lasting info. Call it... the silver bullet gun. DT kit v. 2.0.

Easy. Do you trust Bill not to make a regular gun but have the same name? How about he makes another one after that? And then the mafia all fire their guns the same night.

This is your strangest comment yet Qatol. If you do not trust Bill this entire discussion is worthless. It makes no difference if you ask him to make invention X or Y - if he works for the mafia he will make what he wants or change the properties of the invention how he wants. I don't get it.

Actually, it makes perfect sense. The thing is, if Bill is working for the mafia, he will want to give out as many inventions as he possibly can before we catch him. To do that, he has to give out inventions which seem to be helping the town when they will actually help the mafia in the long run. If we are asking him to give out guns, what is to stop him from giving out his "guns" to mafia members and either claim that they went to people who just died or just say they went to the mafia members? Then the mafia can just go on a shooting spree in a few nights and close out the game.



this doesn't make sense
if he claims the gun went to a mafia and thats why it hasn't been used, then he should call out said mafia and we lynch him, lol
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JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
May 05 2010 20:48 GMT
#564
On May 06 2010 05:45 Qatol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2010 05:39 citi.zen wrote:
On May 06 2010 04:53 Qatol wrote:
On May 06 2010 04:47 citi.zen wrote:
On May 06 2010 04:15 Qatol wrote:
On May 06 2010 04:08 citi.zen wrote:
On May 06 2010 03:06 JeeJee wrote:
On May 05 2010 23:34 Radfield wrote:
I have to disagree with you Citizen, sidesprang was lynched because several things pointed to him being the mafia copycat. The only other real option was him being a very bad townie.

But moving on. JeeJee has information right now that pretty much no one else does.

i didn't go for copycat so presumably we have some liars up in here
either that or hobbes is mafia
for the role that he is (or should be), he sure isn't doing shit with it.
then again neither is sidesprang so i'm at a loss here


Now that sidesprang is gone, JeeJee is claiming that he tried for a role and failed to get it. Which means that someone above him has his role. He also is claiming that whoever that person is, is failing to use it in a pro-town manner. I've looked through the roles, and I really can't figure out which role he could be talking about though. DayVig is the only one that seems likely.

As far as who might have the role? In my mind the options are Opz, Falcynn or Hobbes. Bm and Foolishness have inventor and CV, if Korynne was lying about her pick then Foolishness would have outted her, Qatol is almost certainly telling the truth about trying for CopyCat, and everyone else is dead. Another possibility is that Foolishness and Korynne are both mafia, but I think this unlikely.

So JeeJee, if you truly think that whoever took your role is anti-town, then you should role claim, because you will likely lead us to a mafia. However, I leave the final judgement up to you, no point in outing a pro-town player's role.



you are correct, i probably know hobbes' role now, of course that's still pending whether others have lied but the way the events have unfolded so far, the claims seem legit. i think i probably understand hobbes' strategy now and it kind of makes sense.. we shall see.
atm i am leaning towards hobbes being townie so that's where we stand on that issue.

what's the plan with inventions this night? i'm still leaning towards alignment kits. maybe you can get creative and get a gun with special bullets .. if you hit a mafia, they die, if you hit a townie, nothing happens. its like an alignment kit with bullets, whooo

=)

I love the invention suggestion. How can this harm the town? Swift justice + lasting info. Call it... the silver bullet gun. DT kit v. 2.0.

Easy. Do you trust Bill not to make a regular gun but have the same name? How about he makes another one after that? And then the mafia all fire their guns the same night.

This is your strangest comment yet Qatol. If you do not trust Bill this entire discussion is worthless. It makes no difference if you ask him to make invention X or Y - if he works for the mafia he will make what he wants or change the properties of the invention how he wants. I don't get it.

Actually, it makes perfect sense. The thing is, if Bill is working for the mafia, he will want to give out as many inventions as he possibly can before we catch him. To do that, he has to give out inventions which seem to be helping the town when they will actually help the mafia in the long run. If we are asking him to give out guns, what is to stop him from giving out his "guns" to mafia members and either claim that they went to people who just died or just say they went to the mafia members? Then the mafia can just go on a shooting spree in a few nights and close out the game.

This is silly - ANYTHING can be used to kill someone - the key is in the description, not the name. Us giving Bill ideas does not help or stop him from changing the attributes we cannot observe.

Am I the only one who does not get this or is this plainly obvious?

Ace has said that the invention's use has to be related to its name. I would find it unlikely that he would allow an "alignment check kit" allow that player to kill others. There just is no connection.


yes but only partially related

bill could invent binoculaurs that kill someone and claim they are tracking device. nobody can dispute that either

at your earlier post, bill giving out inventions to continually dying people will be suspicious as fuck. i will be surprised if it ever happens again actually.
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JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
May 05 2010 20:49 GMT
#565
ebwop: this is why i mean make the name as obvious as humanly possible. i.e. name it a DT_Alignment_Check_Kit etc. no ambiguity.
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JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
May 06 2010 13:21 GMT
#668
re: whoever brought up hobbes and me, you're absolutely correct. in fact, actually hobbes has more information than me (because he knows his role). i'm pretty sure hobbes understands my posts. hell, if he ever thinks i'm full of shit, he should definitely call me out. i believe he's townie.

p.s. to be honest there's something annoying about qatol, but i can't argue with his suspects -- at least not scamp. i can elaborate in some hours, after class.
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JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
May 06 2010 19:33 GMT
#692
btw those that are complaining about the lack of an all-button .. yeah i can see how it would be annoying. look into the autopager addon for firefox =) you can set it up for teamliquid as such:

+ Show Spoiler +

On December 08 2009 13:57 onmach wrote:
I had to tweak a few things to get it to work just right.

For url pattern, enable regexp and use this:
http://www.teamliquid.net/(forum|blogs)/view(message|blog)\.php.*


For link xpath:
(//a[text() = 'Next' and contains(@title, 'Next Page') and contains(@href, 'view')])[2]


For content xpath:
//td[@valign="top"]//table[@width=600]


Sure makes following the fitness thread easier.




then you can just start at the first page, scroll down until the last page and you have your very own all button ^-^
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JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
May 06 2010 23:50 GMT
#740
i can vote whatever
i would prefer scamp over darth though but since i sux at keeping track of deadline i can vote darth for now.. ##vote: darth

btw ace, i don't understand your rage. it was obvious from the day post that no invention was made, and bill just said he decided not to make an invention to prove his innocence. the day post revealed both the lack of invention and his innocence, so i'm not seeing the game-altering info?
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