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Falcynn
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3597 Posts
April 15 2010 21:44 GMT
#128
I'd like to sign up too if there's room
Falcynn
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3597 Posts
April 17 2010 04:37 GMT
#195
LOCK AND LOAADDDD!!! BRING ON THE PAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINNNNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!
Falcynn
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3597 Posts
April 18 2010 06:06 GMT
#340
On April 18 2010 13:47 love1another wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2010 11:10 Bill Murray wrote:
After that, we invert the list the following night. We move on to Fulgrim as the next assassin if meeple is killed. If Zona assassinates Meeple, then we can use Zona and other assassins to rolecheck when they are not going to be an assassin in the first night.


Assassin:
20. (DEAD POSSIBLY)meeple
21. Fulgrim
22. JadeFist
23. Roffles
24. krndandaman
25. Falcynn
26. nbtnbt5
27. IntoTheWow
28. Elemenope
29. love1another
30. AcrossFiveJulys
31. nAi.PrOtOsS
32. DarthThienAn
33. Radfield
34. TheLardyGooser
35. Osmoses
36. jpak
37. motbob
38. madnessman

Assassinated:
1. Zona
2. CynanMachae
3. tree.hugger
4. d3_crescentia
5. KF91
6. iNfuNdiBuLuM
7. RebirthOfLegend
8. BloodyC0bbler
9. Jugan
10. Scaramanga
11. Bill Murray
12. Fishball
13. RaGe
14. Foolishness
15. Scamp
16. Abenson
17. Ace
18. Caller
19. [NyC]HoBbes


I don't understand how this system works. And guys! I'm not an assassin
Same here, the main problem I'm seeing is that this system seems to rely on the assassins wishing to comply with the town's wishes, when that's really not necessary for them. I'm sleepy though so maybe I'm missing something, I'll go over all this again in the morning.
Falcynn
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3597 Posts
April 18 2010 15:49 GMT
#374
Just curious, I know that there are internet mafia games where there aren't any blue roles or clues, so how do those usually work for first day lynches? Do they usually just make a random lynch and judge people's reactions or something else?

The only internet mafia games I've ever played were with clues, so I really have no idea what to contribute right now other that saying that some of the other plans posted don't seem to make much sense to me.
Falcynn
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3597 Posts
April 18 2010 21:18 GMT
#402
On April 19 2010 05:58 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
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On April 19 2010 05:56 Ace wrote:
We can just lynch Caller since it's been shown when he doesn't post he's scum.


I dont know. do you really think he'd expect to get away with the same thing for 2 games in a row?
I don't know, it seems possible. I haven't read over any of the recent games, but if this was something Caller tried once and it worked, I wouldn't put it past him (or anyone really) to try the same thing at least a second time. I voted for him for that reason, but again, I'm pretty bad at online mafia and am only voting for him as I can't think of any other better method as I still don't have too much faith in BM's plan.
Falcynn
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3597 Posts
April 18 2010 21:24 GMT
#406
On April 19 2010 06:21 Abenson wrote:
Theory:
BM is actually an Assassin
He is trying to use the list to weed out other assassins so he can win.
That actually makes a lot of sense. Considering I don't understand BM's plan much, I was trying to figure out his motive for coming up with that plan. Whether he's townie and just happened to come up with a fairly odd plan, or if he's mafia and is...well I don't know much of a motive for him being mafia, but this plan seems great for him if he is an assassin.
Falcynn
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3597 Posts
April 19 2010 14:26 GMT
#633
On April 19 2010 22:06 Scaramanga wrote:
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On April 19 2010 09:00 Roffles wrote:
Yeah, just gonna chime in a little here. I disagree on lynching an inactive. I'd rather gamble and kill off someone suspicious than take a guess at an inactive. As someone earlier mentioned, if people are inactive, then as the game drags on, people aren't going to take their word at all. Why not just gamble now and take a shot at someone who seems suspicious now? Go big or go home.

Games in the past that ive played all point to lynching big players that look suspicious pays off some of the time but most turn out town, then you're left with inactives which allows mafia to sit there, do fuck all and get away with it
That's why I'm changing my vote from Caller. I only voted Caller back when he was still inactive, but now that he's gotten pretty active I'm going to switch my vote to RoL since he's the only guy that people seem to jumping on who seems to be truly inactive. I can see people's reasons for voting for Jugan, and he definitely seems like a good candidate for tomorrow's lynch, but I think we should lynch someone who's been completely inactive just about in order to encourage people to start posting more. Even if all we do is force people to post random one liners that gives no benefit to the town, without clues we're going to need everyone to start posting in order to have something to analyze.
Falcynn
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3597 Posts
April 20 2010 01:33 GMT
#791
Booo I only get $40? Is it possible for me to give my cash to someone else? No idea who I'd give it to, but I doubt I'll be spending it.
Falcynn
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3597 Posts
April 20 2010 01:45 GMT
#799
On April 20 2010 10:40 Foolishness wrote:
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On April 20 2010 10:33 Falcynn wrote:
Booo I only get $40? Is it possible for me to give my cash to someone else? No idea who I'd give it to, but I doubt I'll be spending it.

Me me me me me!
Eh, sure. I give my $40 to Foolishness.
Falcynn
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3597 Posts
April 20 2010 02:06 GMT
#805
On April 20 2010 10:46 Incognito wrote:
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On April 20 2010 06:23 Radfield wrote:
Where did this Rage bandwagon come from!? Was his post really that suspicious?

We really need a change of attitude here imo.

I propose a town-wide ban (with lynching if not lived by) on accusations/analysis of previous posts until Day 2, and a lynch of the currently least active, most voted person RebirthOfLegend

Because let's face it, we're not going to be able to have enough of us agree on an already suspicious person to be able to lynch him on day 1, and we're only helping mafia decide which townies to snipe atm.

This would help us focus on getting a decent plan together for the rest of the game.


As far as I can tell, this post helps to focus the town down a road towards a lynch. Voting towards the "least active, most voted person" seems like a sound plan to get a lynch done. Perhaps you folks voting for Rage could elaborate a little more. I realize Caller's already posted a reason, but were that many people suddenly convinced? Caller's argument seemed a bit thin to me.

Wanting to exclude all the pre-day 2 information is hugely ridiculous. If you don't think there's anything here to analyze, then something is wrong with you. This seems like an invitation to cover up information that the mafia doesn't want to be found.
It didn't sound like he wanted to exclude pre-day 2 information, just that he didn't want people to make accusations based on conversations until day 2. We should still keep track of people's posting habits, but we shouldn't make any definitive accusations/start bandwagons based off posting until after we have enough content to analyze.

Although it's pretty easy to understand how that post probably rubbed people the wrong way with him proposing a "ban" rather than just simply stating something like "hey guys, let's not start any bandwagons based off of posts until after we have enough to analyze etc.".
Falcynn
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3597 Posts
April 20 2010 02:07 GMT
#806
and it turns out tree.hugger already posted a better worded response than me...20 minutes earlier...damn it.
Falcynn
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3597 Posts
April 20 2010 20:37 GMT
#901
Wait...so Caller's argument against Rage is that Rage is way too calm in his defending of himself and as a result must be mafia? I realize I'm a total noob and am probably being premature with this but I'm giving a FoS (am I using this term right? just looked it up on that mafiascum wiki) to Caller, because it seems like he's purposely trying to sow discord with these "rules" he's using to spot mafia.

Then again, as stated, he is a way more experienced player than me, but I still don't see the logic in the way he makes some of his accusations.
Falcynn
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3597 Posts
April 20 2010 20:43 GMT
#904
Because I only played the first game, and another one after that. First game I died after like day 4 and mostly just spammed the thread without contributing anything. Second game I played, I pretty much did the same thing (with less spamming). I also did the "newspaper" thing, which I gave up after the first 2 days on both games.

So yeah, not noob, just really bad at this game.
Falcynn
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3597 Posts
April 21 2010 03:52 GMT
#1011
On April 21 2010 12:37 Ace wrote:
STOP THE GAME!

Rolecheck on Caller came back : Caller is Mafia


Lets get this shit.
Well awesome, I started trying to build up a case against Caller since I started getting suspicious of his behavior, but I guess this makes all of that pointless if it's true. I'm all for lynching him and seeing how it turns out.
Falcynn
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3597 Posts
April 23 2010 05:31 GMT
#1318
On April 23 2010 14:12 AcrossFiveJulys wrote:
Incognito, I'm rather insulted that you put me on the inactive list. I've been trying to take a more active role in the town in the past few pages, if you would take the time to look. Also, your inactive list is incomplete. For example, I haven't seen falcynn post in days, but he's been voting.
I'm still following the thread fairly closely, just haven't had anything that I felt I should say. Earlier in the thread someone accused me of being a useless chatterbox, and looking at my posts here I'd say that's pretty accurate, so I just wanted to make sure I had a handle over everything before I start making more random posts/jumping on bandwagons.

Probably once night is over I'll try to make/post some of my assumptions based on whether or not BC/RoL die before the next day.
Falcynn
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3597 Posts
April 23 2010 05:35 GMT
#1320
True, but I figured posting more useless comments wouldn't help my cause either considering I'm horrible at coming up with my own analysis' and most of my comments would just involve me agreeing with other people. At least that was my thinking at the time.
Falcynn
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3597 Posts
April 24 2010 04:49 GMT
#1419
On April 24 2010 11:14 Fishball wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2010 10:46 Osmoses wrote:
OK so the question now is... Can we trust RoL's role check on BC? I should think so, otherwise he'd have put himself at an awful risk.


Are you... *beep*?
RoL is NOT a DT.
But assassins can RC so I'm willing to bet that RoL checked BC thinking he'd be assassin, found out he was mafia, and decided to let town know.
Falcynn
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3597 Posts
April 24 2010 06:08 GMT
#1438
Just off the top of my head without doing any real deep analysis, I'd like to point out the first posts on this page:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=119497&currentpage=67
AcrossFiveJulys basically admitted to being assassin/vig (although we know now that he was assassin), however what I found interesting was how incognito seemed to lure AcrossFiveJulys into admitting that, and AFJ died shortly after (my assumption being that incognito could've thought that AFJ was a vig).

After that back and forth I was certain that if AcrossFiveJulys died then it'd give me some small evidence towards accusing incognito (although I do realize that it's a bit of a stretch to make an accusation based purely on that). However, looking through his archives, I didn't find anything particularly scummy. Although I'll admit I am pretty bad at analysis, but after seeing that Ace has some suspicions, I figured I'd bring this up seeing how I had been saving that page.

Then again, I'm sure incognito or anyone else could easily claim that I'm mafia and had AcrossFiveJulys killed to save myself from getting killed (just wondering, if a mafia were to hit an assassin, and that assassin were to target a mafia, would the mafia hit take priority? Or would both targets die?) so I don't know what else to say until I find something else.
Falcynn
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3597 Posts
April 27 2010 13:57 GMT
#1597
Well, I was supposed to analyze Ace, but that wasn't really necessary it seems. So I'll analyze Scamp, I'll try to have it up in between classes today.
Falcynn
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3597 Posts
April 27 2010 22:50 GMT
#1611
There's already been enough analysis of Scamp, but one more wouldn't hurt, considering Ace is gone (and that I doubt anyone at all suspected him) I'm analyzing the next guy on the list.

Early on he kept making mention of BM's assassin plan, and trying to lead the discussion back to it even though most people seemed to have moved past it after a day. Sure, it seems a bit odd that BM would drop a plan that he seemed to strongly believe in, however considering the number of people disagreeing with him right away, it doesn't seem too far fetched that BM would think it was a lost cause to continue to discuss it. Especially considering that there were too many variables involved for it to work. (IMO I think BM only made up that plan to stir up discussion, and didn't seriously believe in it, but as he hasn't stated his intentions for posting that, it's just a personal assumption...although infun also seemed to share that same sentiment so...).

Anyways, besides trying to get people to continue discussing a plan that had been discussed to death (iirc there were like five or so pages of people talking about it) I don't notice too much that would draw any suspicion from me. Scamp's playstyle to me seems like how I would play if I really tried to be active without caring whether or not the stuff I mentioned was really worthy of discussion.
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