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nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
March 21 2010 09:38 GMT
#7
i'm down for this
nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
March 23 2010 07:45 GMT
#33
just got back, haven't really read the thread; will try to read and post in the morning; goodnight
nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
March 23 2010 21:19 GMT
#55
On March 24 2010 03:17 Fishball wrote:
I'm at work. You guys do realize some of us have to work on weekdays right.
Lunch break now though.

So we get to vote right off the bat?

##Vote nemY##


Lol I like how you used more or less the same excuse as me and voted for me because of it

##Vote Fishball##

On a more serious note... anyone got any plans?
nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
March 24 2010 00:18 GMT
#63
On March 24 2010 09:05 Fishball wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2010 06:19 nemY wrote:
On March 24 2010 03:17 Fishball wrote:
I'm at work. You guys do realize some of us have to work on weekdays right.
Lunch break now though.

So we get to vote right off the bat?

##Vote nemY##


Lol I like how you used more or less the same excuse as me and voted for me because of it

##Vote Fishball##

On a more serious note... anyone got any plans?


No, I voted you because of... well, um...
Oh, this.
[image loading]


Shouldn't you be voting for citizen, he did it first!


Obviously this pic means i'm not mafia! I mean look... it's pretty subtle... don't ya think?
nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
March 24 2010 17:39 GMT
#84
Can someone explain the terminology we are using? Like mainly the meanings behind it.
WIFOM is whine in front of me, but i don't understand the exact logic behind it
i don't really know the rest... is FoS finger of suspicion?
nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
March 24 2010 17:43 GMT
#85
Also we still have a day and a half to build a solid case against somebody; no need to randomly go around flinging accusations just because you got butt-hurt by somebody fingering you (i get it at that most of the first votes were just for shits n giggles).
nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
March 24 2010 20:52 GMT
#90
On March 25 2010 02:49 Versatile wrote:
nemy, i'm beginning to think you're just lazy or looking for random ish to post. i didn't know what those things meant but i put them into google and voila.


To be honest, i still don't quite understand the WIFOM scenario, but yeah i googled most of it. Can someone care to elaborate on WIFOM? Regardless, it seems like people are trying to act all hip and cool by using mafia-related terminology, when in fact all they're really saying is NOTHING CONTENT RELATED. It's ok though, I get it. Day One lynches have little, if anything to really be based on. That said I change my vote to ##Abenson## because he's first on the list of people and because he's posted absolutely NOTHING but sarcasm this entire game.
nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
March 24 2010 21:11 GMT
#93
i'm being sarcastic bro
nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
March 24 2010 21:11 GMT
#94
ebwop: at least when it comes to my first reason and i've read that link already, but i still don't really understand how it is used in game.
nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
March 25 2010 20:55 GMT
#112
On March 25 2010 09:24 Vivi57 wrote:
At this point, johnny is almost definitely scum. PBPA of johnny:

1: asks why ace hates me a couple posts after the start of the game. Essentially a post with no content, although the game is so early you can't really count this against him.

2: random vote on nemy. I've already commented about this.

3: reply to my accusation. Jumps on my weak point about his first post, completely ignores the main point I make about his weak vote late into the day, and complains that I haven't defended myself. To top it all off, he puts a vote on me with no real reason cited.


If this wasn't enough, look more closely. Once I accused him, it took him 6 minutes to reply to me before and after which he was nowhere to be seen. If this isn't active lurking then I don't know what is.

It's very cute that you guys are spreading votes, but we need to work together to lynch the mafia.


Can we seriously stop with the acronyms? Seriously it took me 10 minutes of looking up what PBPA meant... only to find nothing and then sit there and realize how fucking retarded I am: POINT BY POINT ANALYSIS.
nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
March 25 2010 20:58 GMT
#113
Oh yeah I'm not really sure why my vote for Abenson isn't being recognized, I think I did it right didn't I? ##Vote Abenson##
nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
March 25 2010 21:08 GMT
#114
On March 26 2010 05:55 nemY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2010 09:24 Vivi57 wrote:
At this point, johnny is almost definitely scum. PBPA of johnny:

1: asks why ace hates me a couple posts after the start of the game. Essentially a post with no content, although the game is so early you can't really count this against him.

2: random vote on nemy. I've already commented about this.

3: reply to my accusation. Jumps on my weak point about his first post, completely ignores the main point I make about his weak vote late into the day, and complains that I haven't defended myself. To top it all off, he puts a vote on me with no real reason cited.


If this wasn't enough, look more closely. Once I accused him, it took him 6 minutes to reply to me before and after which he was nowhere to be seen. If this isn't active lurking then I don't know what is.

It's very cute that you guys are spreading votes, but we need to work together to lynch the mafia.


Can we seriously stop with the acronyms? Seriously it took me 10 minutes of looking up what PBPA meant... only to find nothing and then sit there and realize how fucking retarded I am: POINT BY POINT ANALYSIS.


Oh yeah I really feel like you can discredit reasons #1, #2, and #4 (if you want to call it that, you didn't actually number it).

For #2: he voted for me in both game simultaneously; Maybe he thinks I really am mafia, but it seems more like he was just joking around/putting a place-card vote on me.

#4: sometimes you just have good timing to when somebody posts about you. Sure it looks somewhat suspicious, but sometimes you just have that "ee han timing" when you log on to TL and see somebody's trying to lynch-rape you.

Take into account #2 and #4 and you can pretty much discredit #1 as well, which you said yourself isn't that much of a valid reason.

Of course this could look rrrrrreaaaaalllllly bad on my part if he ends up flipping red, but at this point I really think Abenson is a much more valid suspect, seeing as how his only posts consist of joking around, and trying to weakly defend himself when he's attacked.
nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
March 25 2010 21:11 GMT
#116
Yeah, I get it now... I forgot to add the word "vote" in when I voted
nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
March 27 2010 00:21 GMT
#176
On March 27 2010 01:55 citi.zen wrote:
Fishball, johnnyspazz, nemY, Versatile - your thoughts on the blue claim and subsequent lynching would be greatly appreciated. Haster - a clearer answer from you would be nice as well.

Silence is good for mafia at this point.


I didn't vote for Vivi so I don't have much to say on it. It came too late to change the outcome of anything and assuming he had claimed earlier, who would we have lynched instead? I hate RCers anyways (although we have played in games where it's worked). That being said being a medic down suuuuuuuucccccks for the DT. Told ya we should have lynched Abension (now RoL).
nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
March 27 2010 20:00 GMT
#216
Wow holy shit...
nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
March 27 2010 20:06 GMT
#218
Btw I'm not sure how people can't think this is the workings of Ace. Both blues dead in a matter of two days? To wreak such havoc it would have to be a really good mafia player to do this. Ok, I'll give that the first lynch was somewhat unlucky on our part, but to snipe the other blue later that night? Come on people, think with your heads ##Vote Ace##
nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
March 27 2010 20:07 GMT
#219
On March 28 2010 05:05 citi.zen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2010 05:00 nemY wrote:
Wow holy shit...

Massive contribution, now we're getting somewhere!


Super sarcasm! Progress is a definite now!
nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
March 27 2010 20:11 GMT
#220
On March 27 2010 12:47 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
Ironically, I am quoting the dead here.
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2010 03:57 Versatile wrote:
yes. no. 1st day roleclaims are stupid.

honestly. even IF i were a fan of first day roleclaims, vivi didn't do it right.

#1. if you're going to roleclaim, do it in a timely fashion. let's say he roleclaimed earlier, given us maybe 24hrs to validate his claim. first off, that gives us a chance to see if anyone else counterclaims. if there isn't a counterclaim, that works in the claimer's favor and maybe some votes would get moved around. if there IS a counterclaim, well, good job, now we've got 1 confirmed mafia.

but this is really risky and i doubt mafia would go for this strategy.

#2. why the HELL would a medic claim? the medic cannot protect them self....so. give yourself away to mafia, why don't you?

so, back to square one, first day claiming sucks.



I agree completely with Versatile here. Ace I don't agree with killing the roleclaimer and I think vivi did a horrendous job with it. The problem is that you logically are correct. You CANNOT confirm a medic claim without sacrificing the other medic. However the mafia are risking that there is not another medic in the game.

If there is a medic in the game then what will happen is the medic just has to claim as well and we kill the first claimer, and then kill the counterclaim if necessary.

The only problem here is that there is no way of knowing whether or not there is a medic so its a real risky play on mafias part. So I think killing a claimer either way is worth it. In this setup losing your medic or DT for a mafia is completely worth it. Either one cannot be validated since an actual DT would check someone and know if they were town aligned or mafia aligned and a fake DT would know who the mafia are. No role claims can be substantiated, ever.

But I do overall agree, first day claiming is dumb, and as a mafia move it is even more stupid. However a kill-able offense is questionable considering how much more risky it is as mafia, considering counter claim = rape and you pointed out how much it can suck losing a mafia member real quick.

Since even you Ace disagree with the depth of a WIFOM argument I am going to have to say you are mafia.

We can say that Citizen argued with Vers because he read her role perfectly then killed her so that he would be "suspicious" because of his arguing with her, which would be what Ace would do because he knows how the town would read it.

It is much easier (and goes with what you believe) to say that you killed Versatile because you had a read on her and either purposely or coincidentally Citizen had been fighting with her the entire time.

Which would be Citizen mind fucking us. From day 1.

##Vote Ace##

Sorry buddy, no scum in my city.

Anyway guys, that is my thought for the day. I am going to head to sleep and I have 12 hours of work tomorrow so I won't be on again until late at night (another 10:30 EST approx)

GL Anyone disagree with my analysys? My secondary suspect is Fishball, but I am not too convinced on anyone else <3


For the record, I'm not very good at analyzing peoples posts and trying to make sense of things (I'm more of a gut-instinct player), but I have no idea what you are trying to say.
nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
March 28 2010 17:32 GMT
#258
On March 28 2010 14:29 johnnyspazz wrote:
i think nemY's vote for ace is hilarious
"holy shit we lost both blues already that means the mafia must be hella good. oh wait! ace is a gosu player! must be his doing."


And who else do you think is capable of sniping both our blues? Do you folks really think it is pure coincidence that both of our blues died in by the SECOND day?
nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
March 28 2010 17:52 GMT
#260
For the record I don't really understand why people are for a "no-lynch" today. You guys keep saying either it'll be a "4v2" or a "3v2" when it could easily be a "4v1" if we hit mafia. Ace provides the best option for this at least in my eyes. I seriously feel like he's playing most of the town into his hands and I fail too see how at least some of you guys don't see this!
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