• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 23:55
CEST 05:55
KST 12:55
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt2: Progenitors7Code S Season 1 - RO12 Group A: Rogue, Percival, Solar, Zoun13[ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt1: Inheritors16[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt2: All Star10Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists22
Community News
Weekly Cups (April 27-May 4): Clem takes triple0RSL Revival: Season 5 - Qualifiers and Main Event11Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO12 Results12026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers25Maestros of the Game 2 announced9
StarCraft 2
General
Weekly Cups (April 27-May 4): Clem takes triple Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO12 Results Code S Season 1 - RO12 Group A: Rogue, Percival, Solar, Zoun Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists
Tourneys
RSL Revival: Season 5 - Qualifiers and Main Event StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly) 2026 GSL Season 2 Qualifiers Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament $1,400 SEL Season 3 Ladder Invitational
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
Mutation # 524 Death and Taxes The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 523 Firewall Mutation # 522 Flip My Base
Brood War
General
[ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt2: Progenitors ASL21 General Discussion Why there arent any 256x256 pro maps? BW General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
[ASL21] Ro8 Day 3 [ASL21] Ro8 Day 4 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Ro8 Day 2
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Fighting Spirit mining rates What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Any training maps people recommend?
Other Games
General Games
Dawn of War IV Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread OutLive 25 (RTS Game) Daigo vs Menard Best of 10 Nintendo Switch Thread
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread 3D technology/software discussion Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion McBoner: A hockey love story
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
streaming software Strange computer issues (software) [G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Movie Stars In Video Games: …
TrAiDoS
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Broowar part 2
qwaykee
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1724 users

TL Mafia XX

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
CynanMachae
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Canada1459 Posts
March 09 2010 07:06 GMT
#16
I'm in
Jang Yoon Chul hwaiting!
CynanMachae
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Canada1459 Posts
March 10 2010 04:43 GMT
#150
It really depend on the numbers of blues anyway
Jang Yoon Chul hwaiting!
CynanMachae
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Canada1459 Posts
March 11 2010 00:34 GMT
#249
I'm glad Incognito just pointed that out, I was catching up with the topic and people seemed to be assuming that the fact that elected officials that can be rolechecked was bad for mafia/good for town. This fact is just wrong. The mafia choose their GF in night 1, and I don't see any reason why they wouldnt put their elected member as GF. Only if they get both, they can't protect both, but meh, that's not good for town either.

Also, I didn't really understand that part with the first/last for protecting BGs, maybe I'm just not reading it right or something, but I don't understand what you mean

Also, on a side note, pushing further Incognito's analysis about the chances of having a mafia elected, assuming a proportionate number of people run for office (20% mafia-80% town), with 5 people running (1 mafia 4 town) we have around 40% chance of electing a mafia as either mayor or pardoner (moving a bit toward 36.66% the more people that run, and having a much higher chance with less people running for office)
Jang Yoon Chul hwaiting!
CynanMachae
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Canada1459 Posts
March 11 2010 01:26 GMT
#255
On March 11 2010 10:03 Incognito wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2010 09:34 CynanMachae wrote:
Also, I didn't really understand that part with the first/last for protecting BGs, maybe I'm just not reading it right or something, but I don't understand what you mean

Also, on a side note, pushing further Incognito's analysis about the chances of having a mafia elected, assuming a proportionate number of people run for office (20% mafia-80% town), with 5 people running (1 mafia 4 town) we have around 40% chance of electing a mafia as either mayor or pardoner (moving a bit toward 36.66% the more people that run, and having a much higher chance with less people running for office)


After BGs are picked they are announced. So in the signup list, we find those two players and note that one of them is before the other. If "first" is picked, medics protect the first BG on the list, if not, they prot the second.

No, don't think too much about precise chances. I was just saying this to illustrate why its wrong to think that mafia will be discouraged from running for office.

Yea I did get that, I just didn't understand why the need to randomly pick one of them. But I went back and read the role and seems I hadn't noticed they were picked among town/mafia. IT does make sense now.
Jang Yoon Chul hwaiting!
CynanMachae
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Canada1459 Posts
March 11 2010 03:17 GMT
#291
On March 11 2010 12:01 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
I do agree however, that greens should run. In a game like this, if a dt checks a green office holder, they can just use that person as a mouth all game. Yes there is a slight chance that person could be the gf, but thats a 1 in 24 chance.

Nah, it's not 1 in 24, since if any mafia make it it will be the GF.

And yea, I also think not only blues should rnun, for those reasons but also as someone mentioned out earlier it's can be better in a lot of situations to have a pro-town verteran that is green than a blue that isn't really as experienced.
Jang Yoon Chul hwaiting!
CynanMachae
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Canada1459 Posts
March 11 2010 16:35 GMT
#350
Why the hell someone would roleclaim in PM to specific people already (BC to vivi) is beyond me. I would really like to hear BC about that.
Jang Yoon Chul hwaiting!
CynanMachae
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Canada1459 Posts
March 13 2010 02:59 GMT
#504
On March 13 2010 11:28 Zona wrote:
With a public DT list, however, the bus driver could elect to switch someone in that DT list with anyone else. Remember the bus driver doesn't even need for this 'someone else' to be mafia for this to be effective - even if a blue is switched with a green, or a green with a blue, then the DT can be discredited. Or, if people are considering the chance that the DT's check was bus driven, then doubt is thrown on the result of the check, making it a lot less useful.

I was under the impression that if someone was the target of a medic/DT and got switched, the blue player doing the check/protect would get notified that his target was switched. If it's as you say then the bus driver can screw us over much more than I thought. Confirmation there's no notification?
Jang Yoon Chul hwaiting!
CynanMachae
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Canada1459 Posts
March 13 2010 03:08 GMT
#511
On March 13 2010 12:04 Foolishness wrote:
The point of the matter is that it's better to have the blue roles organized and under some general plan of action, and not letting them "choose for themselves" as you said. Mafia bus driver is at a severe disadvantage because they do not know the rest of the mafia team. Even say that the DT was going to inspect someone on the list of 3 people Incog gave. If the bus driver chooses to mess it up, they can only mess up ONE of the 3 people. Still a good chance DT's check is going to go through. Also they could accidentally switch with a mafia member, letting the DT check a mafia by mistake. Heck the bus driver could switch a mafia hit onto one of their own.

So you are saying that having a 1/3 chance of wasting a DT check is good? Ok.

And yea, on that 1/3 it'S switched, you have around 1/5 chance of switching with a mafia member. Pretty high there. And that's insinuating that the DT that check know with who his target was switched, which lead back to the question I asked earlier about bus drivers.
Jang Yoon Chul hwaiting!
CynanMachae
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Canada1459 Posts
March 13 2010 17:52 GMT
#566
Oh wat, BG lol. This wasn't there after WL lol.

On March 13 2010 18:12 Incognito wrote:
Which is why we need Cynan to speak up. What do you think about recent events?


First of all, I think I should explain my vote change from Incognito to BC yesterday (not last minute, but a change still). From Incognito's posting, I had the feeling that he was green instead of blue, since he seemed to think BC/L had good chances of being blues, which the other candidates weren't doing. I switched to BC then, because between him and L, if someone was to be blue, I was more convinced it was BC.

Lynching JeeJee, while it did came as suprise, I don't think was a bad choice. He was playing quite anti-town. If he indeed flipped red, we would have learned A LOT, from his PMing and that last minute switch.

Ok, I just read that bodyguards can't be rolechecked. While I only can say so with certitude about myself, I really do think Zona is also town. His posting is very protown and that's the impression I've got talking with him about the election.

Jang Yoon Chul hwaiting!
CynanMachae
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Canada1459 Posts
March 14 2010 04:59 GMT
#641
On March 14 2010 13:51 madnessman wrote:
PS. Isn't it equally likely that people trying to act nondescriptly and voting early on could be mafia too? As we saw in the last game, NONE of the swing voters for redtooth were mafia.

The swing vote for Redtooth during that game was mostly due to him failing while claiming medic and with all the drama that followed he got votes
Jang Yoon Chul hwaiting!
CynanMachae
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Canada1459 Posts
March 15 2010 22:15 GMT
#771
Just done catching up.

I'm gonna vote for Malongo, the arguments pointed out earlier seems pretty good to me.

Imo, based on the fact that he ran for mayoer/pardoner and then dissapeared is a solid enough motivation. If he was red he was trying to get elected and then get GF, if he was green/blue then he should have known beforehand that he could be active/pro-town if he won while right now he's just hiding
Jang Yoon Chul hwaiting!
CynanMachae
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Canada1459 Posts
March 16 2010 00:47 GMT
#806
Well, if Malongo is gonna get modkilled anyway, it does seems a good idea to lynch another target
Jang Yoon Chul hwaiting!
CynanMachae
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Canada1459 Posts
March 16 2010 00:56 GMT
#815
Spazz, can you explain your switch from abenson to malongo?
Jang Yoon Chul hwaiting!
CynanMachae
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Canada1459 Posts
March 16 2010 01:01 GMT
#822
On March 16 2010 03:34 flamewheel91 wrote:
I have an away match today that's at least an hour's drive one way... so bear with me if I'm not back at 9:00. Voting will end on the TL clock today, so that's 11:00 sharp, and I'll get the post up as soon as possible.

Gah I thought day was ending in 5 minutes lol

Seems its at 10 EST (with the new DST)
Jang Yoon Chul hwaiting!
CynanMachae
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Canada1459 Posts
March 16 2010 01:57 GMT
#884
A miller and a mafia lol, well that's surprisingly good
Jang Yoon Chul hwaiting!
CynanMachae
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Canada1459 Posts
March 16 2010 05:01 GMT
#916
The thing is that from both perspectives it was better to get both Malongo/Abenson

Mafia get a freekill on a townie, town get a double lynch on two players that were highly suspected

I was also considering switching to Abenson if Malongo was too get lynched + modkilled too. I got screwed up thinking the day would end at 10 EST but anyway it went ok
Jang Yoon Chul hwaiting!
CynanMachae
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Canada1459 Posts
March 17 2010 02:56 GMT
#1073
Owww wat.

That's what I get from behind away :p

Anyway GL town.
Jang Yoon Chul hwaiting!
CynanMachae
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Canada1459 Posts
March 20 2010 23:09 GMT
#1479
Oh, over already? lol Well yea it was looking pretty bad

And thanks for hosting this game flamewheel!
Jang Yoon Chul hwaiting!
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Replay Cast
00:00
PiGosaur Cup #76
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft448
RuFF_SC2 180
StarCraft: Brood War
JulyZerg 161
910 56
NaDa 45
Noble 21
Bale 9
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm120
League of Legends
JimRising 707
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox2573
Mew2King62
Other Games
summit1g7349
C9.Mang0537
WinterStarcraft315
monkeys_forever282
Maynarde126
ViBE21
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1030
BasetradeTV455
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream47
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• CranKy Ducklings SOOP21
• practicex 13
• intothetv
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• Azhi_Dahaki18
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Lourlo1006
• Rush472
• Stunt307
Upcoming Events
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6h 5m
Afreeca Starleague
6h 5m
Snow vs Flash
WardiTV Invitational
7h 5m
SHIN vs Nicoract
Solar vs Nice
PiGosaur Cup
20h 5m
GSL
1d 5h
Classic vs Cure
Maru vs Rogue
GSL
2 days
SHIN vs Zoun
ByuN vs herO
OSC
2 days
OSC
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
Escore
3 days
[ Show More ]
The PondCast
3 days
WardiTV Invitational
3 days
Zoun vs Ryung
Lambo vs ShoWTimE
OSC
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
CranKy Ducklings
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
SHIN vs Bunny
ByuN vs Shameless
WardiTV Invitational
4 days
Krystianer vs TriGGeR
Cure vs Rogue
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
4 days
BSL
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
RSL Revival
5 days
Cure vs Zoun
Clem vs Lambo
WardiTV Invitational
5 days
BSL
5 days
GSL
6 days
Afreeca Starleague
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-05-02
WardiTV TLMC #16
Nations Cup 2026

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
Acropolis #4
SCTL 2026 Spring
RSL Revival: Season 5
2026 GSL S1
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026

Upcoming

YSL S3
Escore Tournament S2: W6
KK 2v2 League Season 1
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
Escore Tournament S2: W7
Escore Tournament S2: W8
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Maestros of the Game 2
2026 GSL S2
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
PGL Astana 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.