About the intention of not lynching anyone on the first day, well if i read the rules correctly, I don't think it's an option cause the mayor HAVE to choose some1.
So, I would like the election candidates to say who they plan on lynching if they get the mayor and why.
There's alot of time before the election happen, so I think that the mayor should choose the least active person to lynch at the time of the election.
Why? because I think that mafia memebers should play quietly in the begining, not all of them, but a good part of them hae to stay hidden and not give away clues. There is also the risk of getting a green/blue.
Now, I think that the risk of getting a blue with this method is less likely than getting a green or a red.
Blue roles should be considered more exiting by new people, getting them to post more often. If you're green, on the other hand, well, you don't feel that exited anymore so you're less likely to post.
Now, if we're unlucky and get an inactive blue, well.. the guy was inactive anyways so it's not that much of a big deal.
In mafia case, picture this, you're new to the game, and you got the red role, the bad guy, what you're going to do? first, my guess would be some sort of cooperation and organisation starting between the members to decide the ways of action. And like I said, you will try not to give clues or get people to know you too soon. Of course there will be some loudmouth, probly some1 running in the elections for instance but the majority should be moderatly quiet.
Of course, it would be preferable to lynch a mafia of day1 but, let's face it, with so few clues and the lack of material posted we're not going to find one without a hudge stroke of luck.

Now if the candidate opt for this guideline, i recomend observing closely the post after his anouncement. My guts tell me that mafia memebers should be lurking this thread quite alot (you're exited about being a bad guy, but you can't say too much, but since you're exited you're still actively checking the thread) and would try to avoid a first day lynch by sudenly posting more. Even if there are not alot of a priori deductions, the candidates making some strong statement would shake the game a little and alow for more material to work with.

Also, when some1 die, do we get to know his role?

SagaZ

France3460 Posts

January 20 2010 18:21 GMT

#156

Also, I saw the lack of content in some profiles.

I think that at the point we are right now, if we have to choose between lynching a no profile guy and a profile with content guy, the content should have the priority.
I'm saying this taking the GM point of view in this, you're making a mafia game and have to show creativeness and a clue in each mafia hit.
So who would you choose to be mafia? a guy without any info in his content so you will have to make clues entirely based on his name? Or the guy with the profile with the one you're able to make very smart clues that will make people go :O bisu mode.

another question, isn't there some way to look at pasts games made there?, like the first mafia games (I can only see the XV, XIV and XII edition, with some freestyle and mini editions)

SagaZ

France3460 Posts

January 21 2010 00:44 GMT

#189

I like your campain Iaaan, very organised.
But i would like to hear who do you plan on linching on the first day if you're elected as a mayor.

SagaZ

France3460 Posts

January 21 2010 00:49 GMT

#192

And I don't like the idea of not lynching ayone until we're 100% sure.
The thing is, we're never going to be, the game will revolve around making guess and playing a bit with each others to try to get the maximum info for the big guess.
Basically, not lynching anyone sets the town back and gives the iniciative to the mafia players since I guess the mafia is more likely to target the most active posters. So hopefully the medics are good at guessing who's going to be attacked.
First day is more likely to lynch an honest civilian, but it almost always does.

SagaZ

France3460 Posts

January 21 2010 01:48 GMT

#212

On January 21 2010 10:00 ShoCkeyy wrote:

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This is why I have voted for you. I like that you're already trying to help us newcomers and win the game. If you were to be a mafia, you wouldn't be doing this. Back to lynching XeliN
Notice he hasn't posted since I called him out!

okay, this is quite an interesting post actually.
QS make this post about why should detective stay hidden, it's well explained but it's all comon sense and the conclusions are what anyone should see with a minimal thought process. detective and medics stay hidden to the mafia blablabla.
Everything is nice and helps newer player in the case they haven't seen it.

Now comes shockeey's post, basically saying how great QS is for saying what should be common sense. That makes me think about three case senarios.

1) QS and shockeey are mafia, they set up behind the scene the act. This goes well with QS's post activity to make people trust him, the intent of this tutorial would then be to try to earn some trust of newer players. Shockeey's post would only be to reinforce this and creat a bandwagon.

2) Shockeey is mafia, QS isn't. Shockeey, seing how QS posts alot wants to try to get in his good side and possibly misslead him. if someone says good things about you, it's harder to say bad things about them.

3) Neither are mafia, Shockeey just didn't saw how blue roles in general should play on his own and is impressed at how a mafia game works.

These maybe are very far away from truth of course.
About the first lynch, right now, killing the most inactive seems the safest choice, but maybe we could play around with the idea of killing shockeey.

SagaZ

France3460 Posts

January 21 2010 02:10 GMT

#228

Ah of course, I didn't listed your option number 4 cause it's the basic option after each post.
Each post could be written by a mafia member to try to deceive others, it's like, the basic of a mafia post.
I understand that I am over analising, but since it's the begining of the gale and we have no clues, I think I should say what i was thinking about this post in particular; wich was, in my opinion, very particular. I have just never saw a post in this thread so full of blind thrust.

SagaZ

France3460 Posts

January 22 2010 23:47 GMT

#438

ouch, just came back and saw we lynched a DT.
that kind of sucks but I don't think it should be an argument to doubt on our mayor just yet. (of course we can't trust him fully but the fact he lynched an inactive that happened to be blue is just bad luck).
I think we can safely guess that there are more DTs, from what I saw in the old threads, there are generally 1 DT for 3 mafia members, and since this is a noob game I think they should have rounded it up = there should be 3 DTs this game (2 now).

About the DT guidelines that have been posted, beware of the godfather. if he chooses to appear as a DT and you rolecheck him and you decide to trust him, you're in deep shit.

I wonder what will happen tonight, of course having 3 murders sound awefull for the town but at the same time it will leave lots of clues to work with.

About some guys under heavy suspicion like QS or Xelin, you are prime targets for the mafia I think, so every aditional night that you survive will make you exponentially more suspect. Not pointing anybody yet but it is a fact.

Now I would like to adress to the town.
There are alot of inactive players, we can all see that. if you're lurking and seing, trying to think about clues on your own, but not really participating because you got "the boring role" (green).

Stop.

We must all remeber the objectif of the game, it's for your TEAM to win. If your team won, then, no matter if you're alive or dead, you won too. In the next rounds, blue roles will be forced to get some spotlight, to give clues to the town. But if they're the only ones posting, they will become prime targets for the mafia. And that's where you kick in, if you're not blue, you can still pretend you are. Be loud, make the mafia watch you. Even if you die, your posts and the ideas that you've put into the thread will continue posted and people reading over it will see them and re-present them if they are still valid.

SagaZ

France3460 Posts

February 08 2010 21:36 GMT

#882

I'm really sorry for my inactivity. That's pretty much all I can say.
I got a job just a few days after the game started, the idea was to rolecheck some1 with a relative low profile (l10f) and, should he come out green or blue, get a trust motion going, using him to contact another role checked hight profile guy (I was planing quickstriker originaly) to get a godfather insurance.
Then, knowing I was not going to be able to participate any much longer, go out posting all the investigation done so far and having bound other active players.
Shit happened, l10f died first night and I wasn't really able to keep up with the game.
If you wonder what the clue check was, it was from the "long blade" of day 2, and I saw the picture of d3.
I "think" the guy was inuyasha, an anime guy that carrys arround a massive sword hehe.
gg anyways, it was fun while i lasted.