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Fulgrim
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Fulgrim
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For all new peoples I found reading through an old game really helpful: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=103738 | ||
Fulgrim
United States560 Posts
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Fulgrim
United States560 Posts
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Fulgrim
United States560 Posts
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Fulgrim
United States560 Posts
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Fulgrim
United States560 Posts
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Fulgrim
United States560 Posts
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Fulgrim
United States560 Posts
Secondly, as Ian has pointed out that there are a large number of mafia (1/5 people?) in this game, so there are likely mafia among the frequent posters and non-frequent, although losing a more active townie would be a bigger blow then losing someone who just lurks, and rarely checks the thread. (possible bigger reward for taking out active mafia?) So if I'm elected I'm not sure yet who I will lynch, but I'm going to go back and read through most of the posts again, and I may get a clue Thirdly, I doubt that there are any clues in the starting message, in the previous game I read there didn't seem to be any, I would look for clues after the first mafia kill tonight, and what people are posting. | ||
Fulgrim
United States560 Posts
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Fulgrim
United States560 Posts
On January 21 2010 10:48 QuickStriker wrote: I just took a look at the other mafia game and their last post seems reasonable. I'm pretty sure it can happen here and can be the same case so I'll just quote it away: If we take this last post as true, and the mafia is well organized, then we can assume that the mafia candidate is probably not xelin or man.magic, seeing as they have 0 votes and haven't seemed to post alot. | ||
Fulgrim
United States560 Posts
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Fulgrim
United States560 Posts
So our current situation (thanks to Quickstriker for the list) Fulgrim - 2 d3_crescentia - 1 QuickStriker - 1 tree.hugger - 1 Xelin - 0 Man.magic - 0 Abstain votes: 1 Total Votes so far: 6 6 candidates, but only 6 votes so far. I think that we can assume great changes in the list as more people start reading the thread + when the mafia decide who to vote for. We need 28 more votes in 24 more hours. I think the only way to mitigate some of the damage caused by a mafia member getting elected is to pick people who will be open with the townsfolk about what and why they are doing things. (also being a puppet of the town would be nice) Although a mafia member could promise this and then do something completely different when getting elected, so I guess there is nothing we can do to ensure a 100% mafia free gov. | ||
Fulgrim
United States560 Posts
On January 21 2010 11:14 Iaaan wrote: you forgot me to ): UPDATED LIST WITH MORE IAAAN Fulgrim - 2 d3_crescentia - 1 QuickStriker - 1 tree.hugger - 1 Xelin - 0 Man.magic - 0 Iaaan - 0 Abstain votes: 1 Total Votes so far: 6 | ||
Fulgrim
United States560 Posts
On January 21 2010 11:22 QuickStriker wrote: Alright, thanks your answer. Now allow me to share some input on some of the possibility of the aftermath if your hypothesis tend to be false. (Also, this is in no way to be offensive, however as my personality and character calls for it, I feel the need to self-assert myself with possibilities and reasons of my own. I did not do this in the past which caused the errors of my ways.) Now my answer is, should the case where you happen to lynch the wrong person and get someone who is a non-mafia, a simple townie or worse, an important character among the townie, a high possibility can happen. People will start to doubt you, the townies will question your methods, there will be a share chance that you might be next to be lynched/voted out. Now, if you are the mafia and this was intentional (since mafia knows who other maifas are and this can be a grand scheme), it is a very unwise decision to pull in such a way. Because you got it wrong, and even with fellow mafias around you, the chances of survival can be lower than before the incident. Now, if you aren't the mafia and you have voted incorrectly, there is still the greater cause of trouble, far more so than being the mafia itself. Not only the innocent regular townies will doubt you, but the maifas will support the townies, blend in, and support from mafia will come to go against you. A common cause will happen, the mafia using this confusion, taking to this advantage and try to get rid of you using the day vote power rather than their regular killing power at night, because it's easier to kill during day due to having to kill bodyguards first than mayor for nighttime. That is my simplified answer. Finally, I like to note this to everyone, especially mafias out there of what I have just done. By stating exactly of the possibility of these events even when I'm voted out, the chances of this happening is still possible. However, hopefully by announcing the actual possible scheme to come, I have lower or reduced the chances of this happening at least by a tiny bit because I already laid out the whole possible plan ahead of the mafia. Which means the mafia have to find another method or smarten themselves up in order to get rid of the mayor. Have that for food for thought mafia! Omg this is the same as the previous posts, and its blowing my mind... EITHER A. Quick is mafia B. Xelin is mafia C. Quick and Xelin are mafia D. Quick and Xelin are not mafia E. Iaaan is mafia for suggesting everyone watch day9 50 I think we need some new discussion so we can stop fighting among ourselves (or fighting with mafia...) I have a question, when a DT rolechecks someone do they get to see their EXACT ROLE, eg. medic, or just there color eg. blue. | ||
Fulgrim
United States560 Posts
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Fulgrim
United States560 Posts
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Fulgrim
United States560 Posts
On January 22 2010 02:06 dozko wrote: Xelin, I did not quote all of your posts since that post I made was getting enormous. I think people are not too lazy to go a few pages back and read what you have written, so I dont see how you use this as a basis against my argument? In any case I have already put my reasoning up, because thats what I think. People are free to form their own opinion and seeing as how you ignored most of my points and misread the others I do not feel the need to return to that thread of argument. On another more pressing note i put my vote in the other thread for d3_crescentia for mayor. I will now post my reasoning for doing so here. The way I see it there are three main candidates - Fulgrim, tree.hugger and d3_crescentia. I did not vote for Fulgrim, although i tend to agree with a post he made on Quickstriker and Xelin before my analysis. He is the most popular candidate although he has listed the least number of arguments to support his campaign. This I find slightly suspicious. tree.hugger I find is a bit of an enigma right now, since he has only made a few long posts and attempted to impersonate a "sage of wisdom" in all of them. I have not yet formed an opinion of him but I am suspicious when people try to tell me how and what I should look out for. I voted for d3_crescentia because 1) He has made good analysis of the narration and I do not believe that any mafia would go in such details like separating prose from poetry etc. 2) He has a very neutral style of posting, i.e. he does not jump on bandwagons too quickly, and is taking the input of other posters very seriously, even when It is not completely in tune with his own. These I feel are good attributes for a mayor to have and he is the only candidate to actually sort of back up the attributes he claimed he possessed in his campaign with his subsequent posts. 3) He is one of the most active posters, and this will be good for us if he can continue in such fashion when we have more information. Dozko brings up a few good points about the candidates. I find your analysis of tree.hugger interesting because thats exactly how I see you, you came out of nowhere with several fat posts chalked full of analysis, which made me suspicious at first. Although it seems as though this is the style of some players (tree.hugger and others). I think that people are too caught up on Xelin's and Quickstrikers arguments as they could both be mafia trying to distract us and polarize the town, or neither could be mafia and just both paranoid. Either way I feel too much of the discussion has been focused on that. Also I'm glad to see more people becoming active, which is great. However I am still going to follow through on my plan if you elect me and kill one of the least active people, so get posting. (No voting for me will not guarantee that you will not be lynched if you haven't posted anything at all yet) | ||
Fulgrim
United States560 Posts
On January 22 2010 07:01 ShoCkeyy wrote: VERY SUSPICIOUS. While I don't exactly agree with the accusation along with this post, I agree we should be watching this election closely because the results will be very telling to weed out potential mafia. Especially towards the end if there is a mass shift in who everyone is voting for. The mafia have 7 votes, which they will probably use to get who they want in office. I think that dozko forgot to mention in his list of candidates Iaaan, who has brought up some good points so far. (He is the person I'm considering voting for) I think that before people vote they should make sure they have read some of his posts. (and every candidates) | ||
Fulgrim
United States560 Posts
Current votes: tree.hugger - 4 Fulgrim - 3 d3_crescentia - 3 Ian - 3 XeliN - 2 Abstain: 8 Total: 23 | ||
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