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[Spoilers] Nate MSL Semifinals Map Orders

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Smix *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States4549 Posts
January 09 2010 11:43 GMT
#1
Nate MSL 2009 Semifinals Map Orders


▶ Nate MSL 2009 Semifinals

◆ Group B (Z)Kwanro vs (T)Flash - January 14th, 6:30 PM
1st set - Odd-Eye
2nd set - Fighting Spirit
3rd set - Ultimatum
4th set - Match Point
5th set - Odd-Eye

* (Z)Kwanro thumbed down Match Point
* (T)Flash thumbed down Fighting Spirit

◆ Group A (Z)Jaedong vs (P)Kal - January 16th, 5 PM
1st set - Match Point
2nd set - Fighting Spirit
3rd set - Ultimatum
4th set - Odd-Eye
5th set - Match Point

* (Z)Jaedong thumbed down Ultimatum
* (P)Kal thumbed down Fighting Spirit

Source: http://www.fomos.kr/board/board.php?mode=read&keyno=102930&db=news&cate=&page=1&field=&kwrd=
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ghostWriter
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3302 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-09 18:41:44
January 09 2010 12:00 GMT
#2
Sullifam
Hinanawi
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2250 Posts
January 09 2010 12:15 GMT
#3
Thanks.

Kwanro thumbs down...the map where Flash has had 2 of his only 3 losses to Zerg on this season? What?
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Fx_
Profile Joined April 2008
503 Posts
January 09 2010 12:30 GMT
#4
FlaSh 3-0
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Niton
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2395 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-09 13:57:09
January 09 2010 13:06 GMT
#5
On January 09 2010 21:15 Hinanawi wrote:
Thanks.

Kwanro thumbs down...the map where Flash has had 2 of his only 3 losses to Zerg on this season? What?


I was going to say 'probably because of the length to ling all-in' as a joke, but then I remembered that Odd-Eye is even worse for that. Maybe it goes along with his grand plan to force Flash to practice more maps? Match Point and Fighting Spirit are the only two MSL maps used for Proleague, and Fighting Spirit is also in the OSL so Flash has plenty of practice on it already.
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Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
January 09 2010 16:30 GMT
#6
Yeah, its really beyond me why Kwanro didn't thumbsdown Ultimatum or Odd-Eye, especially Ultimatum considering the difficulty in obtaining a third gas (unless he gets fast drop...>.>) I guess I can't question the scheming behind Kwanro's master plan.
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Lebesgue
Profile Joined October 2008
4542 Posts
January 10 2010 01:35 GMT
#7
Both series should be interesting. Glad that Kwanro thumbed down Match Point

Also MSL managed to arrange the pairing pretty well this season. Jaedong and Flash in the semis paired with Kal and Kwanro respectivel. That should be epic.

Thanks for the translation Smix!
Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
January 10 2010 02:09 GMT
#8
Nice, even more rape since Flash can remove one of the most imba zerg maps ever
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Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
January 10 2010 02:17 GMT
#9
Kwanro thumbed down flash's antimap
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yes9111
Profile Joined May 2009
United States420 Posts
January 10 2010 02:20 GMT
#10
1/4 chance of a final with mindblowing potential
1/4 chance of a one sided rape TvP
1/4 chance of a typical MSL final with mid-tier player vs mid-tier player
1/4 chance of a ZvZ

I like Kwanro more than Flash but for the sake of epicness, I'm hoping for a JvF.
And hopefully it doesn't disappoint if it happens.

Thank you for the translations!
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meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
January 10 2010 02:23 GMT
#11
On January 10 2010 01:30 Comeh wrote:
Yeah, its really beyond me why Kwanro didn't thumbsdown Ultimatum or Odd-Eye, especially Ultimatum considering the difficulty in obtaining a third gas (unless he gets fast drop...>.>) I guess I can't question the scheming behind Kwanro's master plan.

Kwanro tends to solve any map problems with speedlings.
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StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
January 10 2010 02:23 GMT
#12
Why would flash thumb down fighting spirit? Can't believe this Grrr
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
dukethegold
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada5645 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-10 02:27:46
January 10 2010 02:24 GMT
#13
Kwanro wants to win straight up without imba anti-Flash map.

Or so he wants to create the grand illusion of it.

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StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
January 10 2010 02:24 GMT
#14
He's 5-0 vs zerg on FS FFS!
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9769 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-10 02:35:43
January 10 2010 02:34 GMT
#15
On January 10 2010 11:20 yes9111 wrote:
1/4 chance of a final with mindblowing potential
1/4 chance of a one sided rape TvP
1/4 chance of a typical MSL final with mid-tier player vs mid-tier player
1/4 chance of a ZvZ

I like Kwanro more than Flash but for the sake of epicness, I'm hoping for a JvF.
And hopefully it doesn't disappoint if it happens.

Thank you for the translations!


Kal vs Flash will not be rape. Kal's PvT is nothing to laugh at.

and if it really comes to Kal vs Kwanro, except Kal to completely demolish Kwanro.


unless i have this all wrong, and you meant:

Jaedong vs Kal
Kal > Flash
Flash vs Kwanro
Jaedong vs Kwanro
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Warrior Madness
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada3791 Posts
January 10 2010 02:35 GMT
#16
Holy Hell those are bad maps for zerg. The best one is at 50% ZvT... lol. Flash imbalance + map imbalance = win? Two negatives = a positive from what I recall.
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De4ngus
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6533 Posts
January 10 2010 02:41 GMT
#17
On January 10 2010 11:35 Warrior Madness wrote:
Holy Hell those are bad maps for zerg. The best one is at 50% ZvT... lol. Flash imbalance + map imbalance = win? Two negatives = a positive from what I recall.

Maybe you meant ZvP? Because none of the maps are even 50% ZvT.
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Dominican Republic825 Posts
January 10 2010 02:57 GMT
#18
this series will be amazing but i think flash and jaedong will be at final
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Hinanawi
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2250 Posts
January 10 2010 02:59 GMT
#19
On January 10 2010 11:35 Warrior Madness wrote:
Holy Hell those are bad maps for zerg. The best one is at 50% ZvT... lol. Flash imbalance + map imbalance = win? Two negatives = a positive from what I recall.


It's worth mentioning that Flash is heavily skewing the TvZ balance numbers on some maps.

For example, Fighting Spirit. Looking at the stats, it's 12-9 TvZ. Why would Flash thumb it down?

Because when you remove Flash's games, it becomes 8-9 TvZ.
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De4ngus
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6533 Posts
January 10 2010 03:06 GMT
#20
On January 10 2010 11:59 Hinanawi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2010 11:35 Warrior Madness wrote:
Holy Hell those are bad maps for zerg. The best one is at 50% ZvT... lol. Flash imbalance + map imbalance = win? Two negatives = a positive from what I recall.


It's worth mentioning that Flash is heavily skewing the TvZ balance numbers on some maps.

For example, Fighting Spirit. Looking at the stats, it's 12-9 TvZ. Why would Flash thumb it down?

Because when you remove Flash's games, it becomes 8-9 TvZ.

....You can also remove Jaedong's games and the map favors Terran again.
GANDHISAUCE
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