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disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9070 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-09 06:28:47
December 08 2009 21:47 GMT
#1
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SK Telecom T1 vs CJ Entus

(T)fantasy < Neo Tornado > (T)sKyHigh
(P)Bisu < Neo Heartbreak Ridge > (Z)Hydra
(T)Canata < Neo Moon Glaive > (Z)EffOrt
(Z)Thezerg < Match Point > (P)Movie
Closer: < Outsider SE >

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fantasy < sKyHigh
Bisu > Hydra
Canata > EffOrt
thezwrg < Movie
Hyuk < EffOrt

well done SKT zergs

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all games, with the exception of the last one, were interesting, but nothing that will really make you "WOW"
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disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9070 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-09 03:56:18
December 08 2009 21:47 GMT
#2
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  • http://livestream.com/puttputt
  • http://ogn.ferron.pe/
  • http://tv.zeroboy.net/solinren
  • http://tv.zeroboy.net/mystlord
  • http://c.zeroboy.net/konadora/


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Poll: Who are you rooting for?
(Vote): SKT
(Vote): CJ

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Poll: Who is going to win?
(Vote): SKT
(Vote): CJ
Administrator"I'm a big deal." - ixmike88
Pafnucy
Profile Joined October 2002
Poland1124 Posts
December 08 2009 21:49 GMT
#3
but "SKT vs Hwaseung" is still alive...

;-)
Member of the "Fuck Yeah, Canata !" committee :-) to join copy/paste this
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-08 21:50:08
December 08 2009 21:49 GMT
#4
looking foward to this epic epicness
cuz shine beat Bisu, CJ will gamble Hydra
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
DreaM)XeRO
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Korea (South)4667 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-08 21:50:27
December 08 2009 21:49 GMT
#5
fantasy < Neo Tornado > sKyHigh
Bisu < Neo Heartbreak Ridge > Hydra
Canata < Neo Moon Glaive > EffOrt
Thezerg < Match Point > Movie
fantasy < Outsider SE > Effort


On paper this looks like it should go to ACE pretty comfortably

Fantasy is playing a TvT vs a slumping Skyhigh
Bisu is taking on some B team zerg
Effort should take down Canata but i expect a pretty good game
(aside: poor canata. Jaedong and now Effort)
thezerg blows on any map besides Battle Royale
ACE should be fantasy vs Effort
Bisu could go out as well but fantasy has a statistically better chance vs a "good" zerg on Outsider
cw)minsean(ru
icometowin
Profile Joined September 2009
New Zealand41 Posts
December 08 2009 21:53 GMT
#6
Fantasy has shown some pretty shaky and unreliable play vZ in his past few games, getting beaten by Killer who is known to lose to B team Terrans frequently. There is a damn high chance Effort is gonna be sent for ace and also a pretty high chance Bisu will be sent as well.
icometowin...literally.
lyhb
Profile Joined December 2009
Canada208 Posts
December 08 2009 21:54 GMT
#7
what time is the match?
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
December 08 2009 21:55 GMT
#8
On December 09 2009 06:54 lyhb wrote:
what time is the match?


11:00 EST
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9070 Posts
December 08 2009 21:56 GMT
#9
On December 09 2009 06:54 lyhb wrote:
what time is the match?

5am my local... and I'm goin to watch it
Check out the calendar.


Administrator"I'm a big deal." - ixmike88
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29903 Posts
December 08 2009 21:56 GMT
#10
3:1 for CJ with sKyHigh dropping his game :-)
Hydra is pretty solid
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
DreaM)XeRO
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Korea (South)4667 Posts
December 08 2009 21:58 GMT
#11
On December 09 2009 06:56 Crucifix wrote:
3:1 for CJ with sKyHigh dropping his game :-)
Hydra is pretty solid

Bisu isn't playing well but still.. a PvZ his best MU AND Heartbreak Ridge..
cw)minsean(ru
meeple
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada10211 Posts
December 08 2009 21:58 GMT
#12
Effort don't let me down...

+ Show Spoiler [All credit to Jyvblamo] +
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DreaM)XeRO
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Korea (South)4667 Posts
December 08 2009 21:59 GMT
#13
On December 09 2009 06:58 meeple wrote:
Effort don't let me down...

+ Show Spoiler [All credit to Jyvblamo] +
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that comic was sooo epic
cw)minsean(ru
lyhb
Profile Joined December 2009
Canada208 Posts
December 08 2009 22:00 GMT
#14
On December 09 2009 06:55 Kenpachi wrote:
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On December 09 2009 06:54 lyhb wrote:
what time is the match?


11:00 EST




wow really? i would stay if it were true... dont pl matches start 4:30 eastern?
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29903 Posts
December 08 2009 22:03 GMT
#15
Check on the right side and CONVERT TO YOUR TIMEZONE
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
Khalleb
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1909 Posts
December 08 2009 22:07 GMT
#16
On December 09 2009 07:00 lyhb wrote:
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On December 09 2009 06:55 Kenpachi wrote:
On December 09 2009 06:54 lyhb wrote:
what time is the match?


11:00 EST




wow really? i would stay if it were true... dont pl matches start 4:30 eastern?


its 4:30 when the game are at 18:30 korean time and 23:00 when 13:00 korean time
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tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-08 22:18:17
December 08 2009 22:17 GMT
#17
This is an awesome day of match-ups. I would've said that the KT v. CJ game would be more interesting on paper, but I forgot the fairy dust of awesome that CJ breaks out once a round for the PL leaders.

So we have this!

(T)fantasy v. (T)sKyHigh
This is actually a MU I hate to call, because fantasy is my second favorite player, and I have him on my FPL team. This should be the most important match of the night for both teams, because this is the closest on the surface. sKyHigh has been slumping terribly, but is coming off of an important win. His recent string off losses was characterized by his normally rock-solid TvT being thrown off by clever play from his opponents, but against a usually standard, strong TvT player like fantasy, sKyHigh has a chance to make a statement. fantasy is another player who isn't looking to hot, but his TvT is not the issue, and he's gone 7-3 in the MU in his last 10.
Verdict: Small edge to fantasy : SKT 1 - CJ 0

(P)Bisu v. (Z)Hydra
Beware Hydra here. While his last PvZ was an inspiring and dynamic victory against hero, Bisu's PvZ is still a little suspect. He has the chance to prove his resurgence in this MU tonight. Hydra has been a ZvZ sniper for CJ so far this season (and has been pretty good at it too) but his ZvP has not been impressive. It'll be interesting to see how Hydra and Bisu deal with the new HBR, and whether there's any effect on the balance of this notorious MU/Map combination.
Verdict: Bisu should win. Should. SKT 2 - CJ 0

(T)Canata v. (Z)EffOrt
Canata's TvZ is actually quite underrated, and while his recent record in the MU looks bad, it starts to seem a whole lot better, when you notice that 4 of his last 5 losses were against Jaedong. Still, if there is one zerg in Korea who could come close to rivaling JD right now, it's probably EffOrt. EffOrt's TvZ has looked as devasting as his ZvP recently albeit against slightly uninspired competition. Still, CJ is not expecting to lose here, and they probably won't.
Verdict: EffOrt is the big favorite. SKT 2 - CJ 1

(Z)Thezerg v. (P)Movie
This season is looking more and more like the one in which Movie steps forward and begins to enter the ranks of the game's more established players. He's playing an opponent whom he was probably heartened to see- Thezerg's ZvP is his strongest MU, but he hasn't played it in months, and "strongest" is relative as his win rate is only 50%. Movie's PvZ is creative, dynamic, and very difficult to counter. To make matters more slanted, Match Point has not been a very helpful map for zergs so far (EffOrt nonwithstanding, of course).
Verdict: Movie might be the safest bet tonight, provided he's left his former trademark inconsistency behind for good. SKT 2 - CJ 2


ACE:
(Z)Hyuk v. (T)sKyHigh
SKT and the rest of us will be expecting EffOrt on a map that's slightly zerg favored. But that's why I wouldn't put it past CJ to break out one of their more controversial (see: Dramatic and successful) ACE choices on this map. My thought is that sKyHigh is a likely choice for ACE, as Coach Cho will see both an opportunity to surprise SKT1 and give sKyHigh some needed confidence. I think SKT1 will have Hyuk practicing ZvZ all week to snipe EffOrt again, although Bisu and Fantasy (the latter especially who loves this map) are good choices as well.
Verdict: If I've got the MU right, I think sKyHigh will get his win, and CJ will take the match.

SKTelecom T1 2 - CJ Entus 3
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DreaM)XeRO
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Korea (South)4667 Posts
December 08 2009 22:19 GMT
#18
On December 09 2009 07:17 tree.hugger wrote:
This is an awesome day of match-ups. I would've said that the KT v. CJ game would be more interesting on paper, but I forgot the fairy dust of awesome that CJ breaks out once a round for the PL leaders.

So we have this!

(T)fantasy v. (T)sKyHigh
This is actually a MU I hate to call, because fantasy is my second favorite player, and I have him on my FPL team. This should be the most important match of the night for both teams, because this is the closest on the surface. sKyHigh has been slumping terribly, but is coming off of an important win. His recent string off losses was characterized by his normally rock-solid TvT being thrown off by clever play from his opponents, but against a usually standard, strong TvT player like fantasy, sKyHigh has a chance to make a statement. fantasy is another player who isn't looking to hot, but his TvT is not the issue, and he's gone 7-3 in the MU in his last 10.
Verdict: Small edge to fantasy : SKT 1 - CJ 0

(P)Bisu v. (Z)Hydra
Beware Hydra here. While his last PvZ was an inspiring and dynamic victory against hero, Bisu's PvZ is still a little suspect. He has the chance to prove his resurgence in this MU tonight. Hydra has been a ZvZ sniper for CJ so far this season (and has been pretty good at it too) but his ZvP has not been impressive. It'll be interesting to see how Hydra and Bisu deal with the new HBR, and whether there's any effect on the balance of this notorious MU/Map combination.
Verdict: Bisu should win. Should. SKT 2 - CJ 0

(T)Canata v. (Z)EffOrt
Canata's TvZ is actually quite underrated, and while his recent record in the MU looks bad, it starts to seem a whole lot better, when you notice that 4 of his last 5 losses were against Jaedong. Still, if there is one zerg in Korea who could come close to rivaling JD right now, it's probably EffOrt. EffOrt's TvZ has looked as devasting as his ZvP recently albeit against slightly uninspired competition. Still, CJ is not expecting to lose here, and they probably won't.
Verdict: EffOrt is the big favorite. SKT 2 - CJ 1

(Z)Thezerg v. (P)Movie
This season is looking more and more like the one in which Movie steps forward and begins to enter the ranks of the game's more established players. He's playing an opponent whom he was probably heartened to see- Thezerg's ZvP is his strongest MU, but he hasn't played it in months, and "strongest" is relative as his win rate is only 50%. Movie's PvZ is creative, dynamic, and very difficult to counter. To make matters more slanted, Match Point has not been a very helpful map for zergs so far (EffOrt nonwithstanding, of course).
Verdict: Movie might be the safest bet tonight, provided he's left his former trademark inconsistency behind for good. SKT 2 - CJ 2


ACE:
(Z)Hyuk v. (T)sKyHigh
SKT and the rest of us will be expecting EffOrt on a map that's slightly zerg favored. But that's why I wouldn't put it past CJ to break out one of their more controversial (see: Dramatic and successful) ACE choices on this map. My thought is that sKyHigh is a likely choice for ACE, as Coach Cho will see both an opportunity to surprise SKT1 and give sKyHigh some needed confidence. I think SKT1 will have Hyuk practicing ZvZ all week to snipe EffOrt again, although Bisu and Fantasy (the latter especially who loves this map) are good choices as well.
Verdict: If I've got the MU right, I think sKyHigh will get his win, and CJ will take the match.

SKTelecom T1 2 - CJ Entus 3

well thought out . i like it
cw)minsean(ru
SkytoM
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Austria1137 Posts
December 08 2009 22:25 GMT
#19
i think that Movie vs Fantasy will be the ACE. Fantasys vP is not so good anymore. Also Movie is on my FPL =).^^
Bisu... ;-(
lone_hydra
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada1460 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-08 22:32:51
December 08 2009 22:27 GMT
#20
Did CJ ever send out someone besides Effort for ace this season?

Edit: sent out savior once for fan service
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