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konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66355 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-10 16:03:16
September 08 2009 19:35 GMT
#1
Northern Cross 1.4

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Changes:
- Made top right/btm left mains slightly bigger
- Shifted mineral-only placement for better main space management

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Northern Cross 1.3

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Changes:
- Fixed top right/btm left gas bug (cannot build)
- Slightly changed 4 o'clock starting mineral/gas layout

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Northern Cross 1.2

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Changes:
- Made mid smaller
- Made mineral-nat bigger
- Removed temples at mid
- Changed unbuildable terrain color at mid

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Northern Cross 1.1

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Changes:
- Added more space at mineral-only nat for buildings

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Northern Cross 1.0
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Details:
Map Size: 128 x 128
Terrain: Jungle
Players: 4

Concept:
- A small-main 4 player map that will feature lots of outer battles, possibly similar to Outsider but more frequent
- Similar to Return of the King, but mineral-only nat is on high ground, making contains less deadly and easy to defend

Features:
- Small main
- All gas nats are around the outside of the map
- Destroyable Psi Disruptors that can open up another route to high ground in middle of map
- 15 stacked Psi Disruptors that can be destroyed that mine from another geyser at the corner expansions
- 1000 gas at your side of the mineral wall, 3000 on the other side
- Almost the entire center of map (high ground) is unbuildable
- 8 stacked minerals (shown as 4 on picture) at mineral-only expansion
- Main can be wallable from outside with just 1 rax (but unable to mine from mineral-only expo)

Resources:
Main - 8M1G (1500 minerals, 5000 gas)
Mineral-only nat - 8M (749 minerals)(4 patches stacked twice)
Mineral-wall expos - 8M2G (749 minerals, 1 patch worth 499)(geyser closer to main worth 1000 gas, geyser on opposite side worth 3000 gas)
Corner expos - 9M2G (1500 minerals, 3000 gas)(15 stacked Psi Disruptors must be destroyed to mine from one of the geysers)

Maker's woes:
- Finding it a problem for rallying lots of units to center of map from the outside. Widening main-to-outside ramp may screw up balance.
- Main is a bit too small

Download links:
Version 1.0
Version 1.1
Version 1.2
Version 1.3
Version 1.4
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StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
September 08 2009 19:42 GMT
#2
This map is very interesting, little bit of an outsider effect. Looks a bit awkward idk (with the low gorund)

bottom rights base, gas is close to the inside, any ranged unit could kill that imo.
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alexpnd
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1857 Posts
September 08 2009 19:43 GMT
#3
Nice concept but I wouldn't know where to put my stuff lol.
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Pseudo_Utopia
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Canada827 Posts
September 08 2009 19:45 GMT
#4
Yeah my first thought was "wow the mains are so small". This may make it slightly zerg-favored (?) since they need less space for buildings.
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konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66355 Posts
September 08 2009 19:46 GMT
#5
On September 09 2009 04:43 alexpnd wrote:
Nice concept but I wouldn't know where to put my stuff lol.

yeah that's the problem i'm kinda facing atm, thinking of widening the mineral-only nat area so that there'll be more space to build
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404.Delirium
Profile Joined May 2008
United States1190 Posts
September 08 2009 19:54 GMT
#6
Building placement would be similar to Plasma, right? You'd have to build down ramps. Either on those inside low-ground pockets or on the outside low-ground ring.
seriously next disrespectful comment in this blog is ip ban. Be happy or get the hell out. // SC2 is like playing with neutral-colored Play-Doh while BW is like colorful Legos.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66355 Posts
September 08 2009 19:56 GMT
#7
Okay slightly widened the nat area
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StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
September 08 2009 20:04 GMT
#8
What about 4ish/5ish gas?

i think that could be a problem.
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66355 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-08 20:06:45
September 08 2009 20:06 GMT
#9
On September 09 2009 05:04 StorrZerg wrote:
What about 4ish/5ish gas?

i think that could be a problem.

what 4-ish/5-ish?

1st gas - main
2nd gas - near mineral wall (or corner expo)
3rd gas - corner expo (or near mineral wall)
4th gas - other mineral wal gas
5th gas - destroy 15 buildings or expand elsewhere

or you mean, as in, it may cause imbalance or smth?
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KinosJourney2
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Sweden1811 Posts
September 08 2009 20:07 GMT
#10
Very sexy concept but the mains needs to be bigger, i refuse to build outside
ocho wrote: EDIT: NEVERMIND, THIS THING HAS APM TECHNOLOGY OMG
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66355 Posts
September 08 2009 20:10 GMT
#11
Maybe mid is a tad too large :p
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Neivler
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Norway911 Posts
September 08 2009 20:13 GMT
#12
It could be cool if u rewerted it. So the main base is on low ground and nat is on high, simmilar to Byzantium.
I pwn noobs
neobowman
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3324 Posts
September 08 2009 20:20 GMT
#13
Great concept. Might have a bit more trouble PvT than in outsider since the Terran can grab 3 easy bases, then a fourth if they defend it properly. The distances between the Protoss and Terran is short too since a 200/200 Terran could probably shoot down the psi disrupters pretty quickly.
Middle is fine imo. Maybe a bit too tight.
This is great, improve deco a bit though. I'll try to think of more comments to help improve this.
404.Delirium
Profile Joined May 2008
United States1190 Posts
September 08 2009 20:40 GMT
#14
On September 09 2009 05:20 neobowman wrote:
Great concept. Might have a bit more trouble PvT than in outsider since the Terran can grab 3 easy bases, then a fourth if they defend it properly. The distances between the Protoss and Terran is short too since a 200/200 Terran could probably shoot down the psi disrupters pretty quickly.
Middle is fine imo. Maybe a bit too tight.
This is great, improve deco a bit though. I'll try to think of more comments to help improve this.


I thought that too, but then looking over it, fast carriers look incredibly powerful.
seriously next disrespectful comment in this blog is ip ban. Be happy or get the hell out. // SC2 is like playing with neutral-colored Play-Doh while BW is like colorful Legos.
crate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States2474 Posts
September 08 2009 20:57 GMT
#15
On September 09 2009 05:06 konadora wrote:
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On September 09 2009 05:04 StorrZerg wrote:
What about 4ish/5ish gas?

i think that could be a problem.

what 4-ish/5-ish?

I think StorrZerg is talking about the gas at the bottom-right main; it's much closer to the inside of the map than the other mains' gases (might be siege-able from the cliffs to the north of it).
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Adeny
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway1233 Posts
September 08 2009 20:57 GMT
#16
What are you, a zerg player? I'd never ever play this map as terran. Every single "feature" is balanced against terran in one or more matchups.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66355 Posts
September 08 2009 20:59 GMT
#17
On September 09 2009 05:57 crate wrote:
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On September 09 2009 05:06 konadora wrote:
On September 09 2009 05:04 StorrZerg wrote:
What about 4ish/5ish gas?

i think that could be a problem.

what 4-ish/5-ish?

I think StorrZerg is talking about the gas at the bottom-right main; it's much closer to the inside of the map than the other mains' gases (might be siege-able from the cliffs to the north of it).

oh.. hmm but then, I'll have to place at some other position which will cause mining inefficiency as compared to other 3 positions

updated to 1.2 btw
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Pholon
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Netherlands6142 Posts
September 08 2009 21:07 GMT
#18
Shit kona, you produce a map I actually find mildly interesting! :o (dw, I'm a huge sceptic) Play some games when I wake up?
Moderator@TLPholon // "I need a third hand to facepalm right now"
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66355 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-08 21:31:19
September 08 2009 21:08 GMT
#19
what time will you wake up?

(in KST)

pm me @ konata.izumi on iccup for game
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Pholon
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Netherlands6142 Posts
September 08 2009 22:35 GMT
#20
16:00 ish?
Moderator@TLPholon // "I need a third hand to facepalm right now"
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