On November 29 2009 03:18 tree.hugger wrote: Ok, so around page 45 I was watching on my laggy stream, saw fantasy with about a control group of mnm on two bases against Calm who had four and lair incomming. I thought;
"Goddammit Fantasy, why did you have to be so disappointing tonight?"
And then I shut off my computer, and went to bed, haunted by dreams of EffOrt losing to Shine and fantasy losing to Calm. I wake up this morning, dreading to see the inevitable result. I check the TSL standings first. Then I reluctantly check the results from this game....
"WHAT?"
Reading the live report is hilarious, but I'm guessing the cameras didn't catch the part where Clam barged into the booth, knocked out Calm, and started rallying overlords into Fantasy's turrets. Need to see the replay here.
On November 29 2009 03:29 nayumi wrote: That overlord suicide was either a mistake at 300 apm, or a fake drop to divide fantay's troop ...
I think it was a fake drop. It damn looked like that to me at the beginning. But then he knew about those turrets there so why did he rallied overloards there I have no idea. So maybe it was a misclick at the end...
On November 28 2009 17:05 IntoTheWow wrote: Yeah he showed it today. it went like this:
Lose all templars when moving out, grab a third and mass cannon it. A move, lose a bunch of units, expo again, and amass cannons.
Get doom dropped, lose everything, cannon more. Move around the map doing something even thought my enemy has nothing to fight back. Once he has enough ultras, let him flank me.
Cannon a bit more. And now a move again. Win.
Even Canata with protoss wouldn't get that many cannons. Awful.
what a troll, he didn't even mass cannon his third. He didn't even mass cannons in his fourth or fifth at first, only added them on later on in the game.
He warped about 7 cannons in his 5th while his nexus warped in, 5 in his 4th and then he mass cannoned every expo (including his 6th)
On November 28 2009 17:05 IntoTheWow wrote: Yeah he showed it today. it went like this:
Lose all templars when moving out, grab a third and mass cannon it. A move, lose a bunch of units, expo again, and amass cannons.
Get doom dropped, lose everything, cannon more. Move around the map doing something even thought my enemy has nothing to fight back. Once he has enough ultras, let him flank me.
Cannon a bit more. And now a move again. Win.
Even Canata with protoss wouldn't get that many cannons. Awful.
what a troll, he didn't even mass cannon his third. He didn't even mass cannons in his fourth or fifth at first, only added them on later on in the game.
He warped about 7 cannons in his 5th while his nexus warped in, 5 in his 4th and then he mass cannoned every expo (including his 6th)
Bisu pretty much had to go for a mass cannon style once he started getting more bases, otherwise he'd just die to constant crackling raids. I don't really see any other way around it, unless you the genius have an alternative solution.
On November 28 2009 17:05 IntoTheWow wrote: Yeah he showed it today. it went like this:
Lose all templars when moving out, grab a third and mass cannon it. A move, lose a bunch of units, expo again, and amass cannons.
Get doom dropped, lose everything, cannon more. Move around the map doing something even thought my enemy has nothing to fight back. Once he has enough ultras, let him flank me.
Cannon a bit more. And now a move again. Win.
Even Canata with protoss wouldn't get that many cannons. Awful.
what a troll, he didn't even mass cannon his third. He didn't even mass cannons in his fourth or fifth at first, only added them on later on in the game.
He warped about 7 cannons in his 5th while his nexus warped in, 5 in his 4th and then he mass cannoned every expo (including his 6th)
How else would you defend against mass cracklings? Divide your force and stop the constant harass and let zergs expand enough to get Imbalisks?
Match Point is tough to defend late game ZvT with its multiple paths. On other maps, it is possible to defend 2 gas with just 1 nydus. Here its a chore just to defend 1 gas at 5.
Calm was on 3 gas most of the game. Losing 5 position hurt a lot with all those drones there.
I say the turning point was when Calm lost all units trying to contain/bust at the terran choke.
On November 28 2009 17:05 IntoTheWow wrote: Yeah he showed it today. it went like this:
Lose all templars when moving out, grab a third and mass cannon it. A move, lose a bunch of units, expo again, and amass cannons.
Get doom dropped, lose everything, cannon more. Move around the map doing something even thought my enemy has nothing to fight back. Once he has enough ultras, let him flank me.
Cannon a bit more. And now a move again. Win.
Even Canata with protoss wouldn't get that many cannons. Awful.
what a troll, he didn't even mass cannon his third. He didn't even mass cannons in his fourth or fifth at first, only added them on later on in the game.
He warped about 7 cannons in his 5th while his nexus warped in, 5 in his 4th and then he mass cannoned every expo (including his 6th)
How else would you defend against mass cracklings? Divide your force and stop the constant harass and let zergs expand enough to get Imbalisks?
agreed. What about from protoss' VOD, let me build +1zealots to slow down Zerg. Only to get roffledstomped by 20 sunken colonies and 15 evolution chambers with 10 hatcheries in front of them. In every bloody base. I think simcities are a HUGEE advantage to zerg, they don't even need lings midgame, just buildings and sunkens.
EPT
fantasy with about a control group of mnm on two bases against 
Calm who had four and lair incomming. I thought;
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