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Lo3 #76: "WTF Foreigners?" w/ Dreamhack CEO 7 PMET

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Slasher
Profile Joined September 2007
United States1095 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-16 14:50:28
June 15 2011 19:50 GMT
#1
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VOD now available: http://blip.tv/liveonthree/live-on-three-e76-06-15-2011-5280947

Live On Three is hosted by Marcus "djWHEAT" Graham, Rod "Slasher" Breslau & Scott "SirScoots" Smith.

On tonight's Live On Three #76, we take a look back at competition from MLG Columbus, StarsWars, and CEO 2011/ReveLations, while previewing this weekend's DreamHack Summer event. All of which culminates to today's main topic of "Why can't the West win?" In the past week and a half we have been witness to:

- MMA, LosirA & MC take Top 3 at MLG with no Korean player knocked out except by another Korean
- MC, xiaOt, LoveTT, LoveCD take Top 4 of StarsWars which consisted of every major foreigner player
- Daigo, Mago & Tokido win two separate SSF4AE tournaments (CEO, RevLA) on the same weekend on opposite coasts
- Most embarrassingly of all, Tokido wins CEO Marvel vs Capcom 3, a franchise America has 10 years of experience on Japan

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We will discuss the various reasons for such results, and if they will change anytime soon, including this weekend's DreamHack Summer event which featured six Korean players. DreamHack CEO Robert Ohlen & DreamHack/Rakaka's Fredrik "Ponderosa" Nyström will be the special guests for the evening, going over several aspects of putting together DreamHack as a whole, how it functions with so many games, and maybe some insight on why Sweden has been a leader in eSports since the very beginning.

Other topics today include:

- DREAMHACK QUAKE, COUNTER-STRIKE 1.6 PREVIEW
- Flash takes out Zer0 3-0 to win MSL - Best Starcraft player in history?
- MLG announces 22.5 M views for Columbus
- NaNiwa & ThorZaiN head to Korea
- Complexity acquires Root Gaming without Kiwikaki, Slush
- Kiwikaki, Slush join up with VT Gaming to form Reign
- Yellow retires from eSports

Show starts at 19:00 EDT (-04:00) (7 PM EST, 01:00 CET) @ http://www.OneMoreGame.tv / http://www.Justin.tv/OneMoreGameTV

Photo by Shoryuken.com
Bear4188
Profile Joined March 2010
United States1797 Posts
June 15 2011 19:51 GMT
#2
Are you going to mention Yellow's retirement at all?

There's also the two Koreans joining western teams.
"I learned very early the difference between knowing the name of something and knowing something." - R. Feynman
Darathor
Profile Joined February 2011
United States327 Posts
June 15 2011 19:53 GMT
#3
Sweet! I can't wait to see this one! And it's great that you guys are even paying attention to BW a little too! I really hope that foreigners don't fall behind the Koreans(or just any Asians) like in BW in SC2 or any other game that gets competitive. I really hope i can change that.
Chronald
Profile Joined December 2009
United States619 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-15 19:56:16
June 15 2011 19:54 GMT
#4
On June 16 2011 04:51 Bear4188 wrote:
Are you going to mention Yellow's retirement at all?

There's also the two Koreans joining western teams.

Who is the second? I only saw Twilight/FXOz was joining a team.

Also - I watched the RevLA stream for SSF4AE and a little bit of the MvC3 tourney that Toki won. Those dudes are way beyond anything I thought possible in respective games. Toki is insaneeeeeeeeeee at MvC3.
Got that.
emythrel
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United Kingdom2599 Posts
June 15 2011 19:55 GMT
#5
On June 16 2011 04:54 Chronald wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2011 04:51 Bear4188 wrote:
Are you going to mention Yellow's retirement at all?

There's also the two Koreans joining western teams.

Who is the second? I only saw Twilight/FXOz was joining a team.


Rain left TSL and says he wants to join a foreign team
When there is nothing left to lose but your dignity, it is already gone.
Antoine
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States7481 Posts
June 15 2011 19:55 GMT
#6
If you're lumping chinese in with koreans as non-foreigners maybe you should use westerners instead of foreigners
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Rayeth
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States883 Posts
June 15 2011 19:57 GMT
#7
Can't wait to hear the reasons all the foreigners suck at fighting games. This should be good.
The Innocent shall suffer... big time.
Piski
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Finland3461 Posts
June 15 2011 19:57 GMT
#8
On June 16 2011 04:55 emythrel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2011 04:54 Chronald wrote:
On June 16 2011 04:51 Bear4188 wrote:
Are you going to mention Yellow's retirement at all?

There's also the two Koreans joining western teams.

Who is the second? I only saw Twilight/FXOz was joining a team.


Rain left TSL and says he wants to join a foreign team


FXOz is one and Phoenix (PhoenixWeRRa) went into the new Reign where Slush and KiWi are. Rain would be 3rd.
Mailing
Profile Joined March 2011
United States3087 Posts
June 15 2011 19:58 GMT
#9
Hasn't this topic been discussed to death already? :X

Are you hurting ESPORTS? Find out today - http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=232866
Snuggles
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1865 Posts
June 15 2011 19:59 GMT
#10
I feel like tonight is going to be an awesome show. So much news out there. E-sports is starting to become a pretty entertaining thing for us average joes =D.
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
June 15 2011 20:01 GMT
#11
I'm really interested to see an indepth look at the topic. No fluff included.
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
Aegeis
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1619 Posts
June 15 2011 20:03 GMT
#12
Is there a way to get a only audio format of this show?

Itunes has 3 different versions of Lo3 and I think most of them are out dated.
"Skills to pay the bills" - Artosis, https://twitter.com/AegeisSC2 ,http://www.tumblr.com/blog/socal-esports
Maliris
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Northern Ireland2557 Posts
June 15 2011 20:05 GMT
#13
please call them international players if they aren't asian
"Religion is something left over from the infancy of our intelligence, it will fade away as we adopt reason and science as our guidelines."
Piski
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Finland3461 Posts
June 15 2011 20:06 GMT
#14
On June 16 2011 05:03 Aegeis wrote:
Is there a way to get a only audio format of this show?

Itunes has 3 different versions of Lo3 and I think most of them are out dated.


http://feeds.feedburner.com/onemoregame-lo3-mp3

Click the right mouse button on the "Play Now" and download it.
Aegeis
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1619 Posts
June 15 2011 20:08 GMT
#15
On June 16 2011 05:06 Piski wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2011 05:03 Aegeis wrote:
Is there a way to get a only audio format of this show?

Itunes has 3 different versions of Lo3 and I think most of them are out dated.


http://feeds.feedburner.com/onemoregame-lo3-mp3

Click the right mouse button on the "Play Now" and download it.


Thank you
"Skills to pay the bills" - Artosis, https://twitter.com/AegeisSC2 ,http://www.tumblr.com/blog/socal-esports
Chronald
Profile Joined December 2009
United States619 Posts
June 15 2011 20:12 GMT
#16
On June 16 2011 04:57 Rayeth wrote:
Can't wait to hear the reasons all the foreigners suck at fighting games. This should be good.

Justin Wong could have won, but he used a gimmicky team in MvC3 and didn't play perfectly, which Tokido didn't do either, but he played more perfect...

JWong didn't use his standard team, which I can understand because of how good Tokido's Phoenix is, but I think he could have pulled the win out if he just played a more solid, and practiced, team.
Got that.
legatus legionis
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands559 Posts
June 15 2011 20:14 GMT
#17
On June 16 2011 05:06 Piski wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2011 05:03 Aegeis wrote:
Is there a way to get a only audio format of this show?

Itunes has 3 different versions of Lo3 and I think most of them are out dated.


http://feeds.feedburner.com/onemoregame-lo3-mp3

Click the right mouse button on the "Play Now" and download it.


Or alternatively from the onemoregame.tv site to the iTunes podcast store, or from within iTunes itself.
It has indeed changed, I had trouble finding them myself at first. Ended up getting SD, video version before I found the mp3. I believe the new artist is gonna be onemoregametv, as opposed to djWheat it was before. And I'm not 100% on how to get to the actual mp3 part but I believe you should be able to pick it out from the store once you browse there, or again from the archive links/overview on their site.

http://onemoregame.tv/index.php/shows/lo3.html in the right sidebar there's an overview of iTunes/RSS with the different versions HD,SD, mp3.
http://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/live-on-three-mp3/id438191871 has the iTunes store overview of the mp3 in your browser. Make sure clicking allows iTunes to open or it doesn't work.

Looking to be a great episode, can't wait
MrMotionPicture
Profile Joined May 2010
United States4327 Posts
June 15 2011 20:16 GMT
#18
I shall try to tune in! Looks great
"Elvis Presley" | Ret was looking at my post in the GSL video by Artosis. | MMA told me I look like Juanfran while we shared an elevator with Scarlett
Finrod1
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany3997 Posts
June 15 2011 20:17 GMT
#19
Yeah, just love the show. But why isn't it it the tl calendar?
speedphlux
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Bulgaria962 Posts
June 15 2011 20:17 GMT
#20
How the heck is that topic posted on June 16th, when I'm in a time zone that's ahead of djWheat and it's still 15th here ?!
Can I has this filled in the TL events calendar so that I know exactly how much time I has till it goes live ?
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