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Lo3 #76: "WTF Foreigners?" w/ Dreamhack CEO 7 PMET - Page 3

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Slasher
Profile Joined September 2007
United States1095 Posts
June 15 2011 22:40 GMT
#41
Going live in 20
Steelavocado
Profile Joined May 2010
United States2123 Posts
June 15 2011 22:45 GMT
#42
First Lo3 I am going to tune into, make it a good show guys <3.
MIRACLE IS YOUR TI7 CHAMP
SolonTLG
Profile Joined November 2010
United States299 Posts
June 15 2011 22:47 GMT
#43
On June 16 2011 07:09 Slasher wrote:
I understand people's complaints regarding the terms 'foreigner', 'westerner', etc, will try and give my thoughts tonight.


The term "foreigner" does not bother me at all. As long as Korea is the "Mecca" of ESPORTS (Naniwa and Thorzain are going to Korea for a reason!), then all non-Koreans will be foreigners by definition.

The term "foreigner" to me does not mean that "all Koreans are better than all players from other countries", rather it is a term of respect/endearment/homage to a place/culture that has long defined the pinnacle of ESPORTS.

The Law Giver
Chicane
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7875 Posts
June 15 2011 23:18 GMT
#44
On June 16 2011 07:47 SolonTLG wrote:
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On June 16 2011 07:09 Slasher wrote:
I understand people's complaints regarding the terms 'foreigner', 'westerner', etc, will try and give my thoughts tonight.


The term "foreigner" does not bother me at all. As long as Korea is the "Mecca" of ESPORTS (Naniwa and Thorzain are going to Korea for a reason!), then all non-Koreans will be foreigners by definition.

The term "foreigner" to me does not mean that "all Koreans are better than all players from other countries", rather it is a term of respect/endearment/homage to a place/culture that has long defined the pinnacle of ESPORTS.



Ya I agree with this. I have no problem with the use of the word foreigner.
Finrod1
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany3997 Posts
June 15 2011 23:39 GMT
#45
Apparently savior is going to mlg. SICK!
Chickenlegs
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden451 Posts
June 15 2011 23:40 GMT
#46
no he's not?
Starfox
Profile Joined April 2010
Austria699 Posts
June 16 2011 00:01 GMT
#47
The swedes microphones are overdriven, they rival slasher robotism
Skypes auto-adjust is just the worst setting there is :<
Greek Mythology 2.0: Imagine Sisyphos as a man who wants to watch all videos on youtube... and Tityos as one who HAS to watch all of them.
sjschmidt93
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2518 Posts
June 16 2011 02:19 GMT
#48
Anyone know where I can download the Lo3 opening song? It's so good
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L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
June 16 2011 02:50 GMT
#49
sounds interesting, might have to tune in!
https://twitter.com/#!/IrisAnother
snotboogie
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Australia3550 Posts
June 16 2011 03:03 GMT
#50
Shouldn't Chinese players be counted as foreigners too? I mean if you're just gonna go ahead and actually talk about Asian vs non-Asian instead of Korean vs Foreigner at least have the guts to come out and say it.
GuiMontag
Profile Joined May 2011
Australia79 Posts
June 16 2011 03:52 GMT
#51
The chinese were always counted as foreigners until they began smashing westerners in broodwar. It basically became a shortening of 'whos the best foreigner besides the chinese' to 'whos the best foreigner' with it just being accepted that the scale is korea>china>foreigner.
snotboogie
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Australia3550 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-16 04:52:14
June 16 2011 04:16 GMT
#52
But what does that then say about foreigners? Are they defined as those who necessarily come last? I think it's much more likely that skin colour has something to do with it.

What I'm trying to get at is that there's at least some racism/culturalism here. Chinese are foreigners until they're good, then they're not?

OK, think about this hypothetical: Instead of China, say Sweden stratified themselves above the competition. Would Sweden then be defined as "non-foreigner"? No, I think 99% of the fanbase would take Sweden's success as being victory for foreigners.

I for one will continue to cheer for Chinese players as 100% foreigners.
Sarang
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia2363 Posts
June 16 2011 04:47 GMT
#53
Yeah, I remember when TL failed to include Sen in one of their GSL foreigner recaps.

IMO, if you're not Korean, you're a foreigner. Just because someone is Asian doesn't mean they're not a foreigner.
"Killer helped me feel better before coming to the arena. He told me to say that." - Bomber
Nimic
Profile Joined September 2010
Norway1360 Posts
June 16 2011 06:34 GMT
#54
Okay, djWheat needs to stop shouting all the time. Once in a while is okay, but this is starting to get annoying. If I turn it down I won't hear the other guys.
GhostFall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States830 Posts
June 16 2011 08:40 GMT
#55
Flash is not the first to have a Golden Mouse and Golden Badge.

Nada is.
Slasher
Profile Joined September 2007
United States1095 Posts
June 16 2011 14:50 GMT
#56
VOD of last night's show is now available on http://LiveOnThree.blip.tv
Vinski
Profile Joined November 2010
505 Posts
July 04 2011 22:05 GMT
#57
Can we say Rodney's computer killed quake live?
"Sound is in a bad marriage, instead of divorcing her and keeping half your shit, he just committed suicide"
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