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[QUOTE]On February 02 2013 00:48 Djodref wrote:
[QUOTE]On February 02 2013 00:39 Djodref wrote:
*snip*
As scum, you could be very ballsy and claim a green check on your partner (it makes no sense to claim a green check on a townie who is going to get mislynched) because you always take the risk to get counterclaimed. But Vivax wants to lynch his own green check, so I don't think Mocsta is his buddy.
Also you claim to protect yourself as scum. Vivax claimed to protect a green check. Vivax is town. He is my strongest townread right now.
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He definitely didn't claim to protect himself at that moment, obviously. It was to protect xsk.
Of course he wants to lynch/bus xsk. He's been bringing up the possibility of a GF for every other time he mentions that xsk is green. I already said how I found that very scummy.
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On February 02 2013 00:50 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2013 00:46 JieXian wrote:Someone answer me please On February 02 2013 00:22 JieXian wrote:
@Djo : My only confirmed town read is iamp, unsure about the rest.
Correct me if I'm wrong but does Vivax have anything to lose as mafia by claiming 1 shot DT? I don't know how the c9++ setup works. Its a tough one.. It almost seems unnatural how many times he has received DT. I cant see a reason to do a gambit of Fake DT -> Fake check = green & then push as godfather Even if for whatever reason Vivax was trolling and decided to test this theory out.. The shock he expresses post Night 1 is pretty genuine. I dont think that can be faked. He was really conflicted. After the check, xsksc started becoming inactive (very convenient) so it was natural for Vivax to question this.So, to answer your question. I dont see how the cons outweight the pros of this move if faked. Vivax is DT, Vivax is town.
Yes, to save himself.
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[QUOTE]On February 02 2013 00:52 JieXian wrote:
[QUOTE]On February 02 2013 00:48 Djodref wrote:
[QUOTE]On February 02 2013 00:39 Djodref wrote:
*snip*
As scum, you could be very ballsy and claim a green check on your partner (it makes no sense to claim a green check on a townie who is going to get mislynched) because you always take the risk to get counterclaimed. But Vivax wants to lynch his own green check, so I don't think Mocsta is his buddy.
Also you claim to protect yourself as scum. Vivax claimed to protect a green check. Vivax is town. He is my strongest townread right now.
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He definitely didn't claim to protect himself at that moment, obviously. It was to protect xsk.
Of course he wants to lynch/bus xsk. He's been bringing up the possibility of a GF for every other time he mentions that xsk is green. I already said how I found that very scummy.[/QUOTE]
You don't take the risk to be counterclaim to save your scumbuddy to tell everybody that he is GF when people don't want to lynch him anymore. Vivax is town.
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can we stop the fail quoting for a bit?
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On February 02 2013 00:50 Vivax wrote:
Yeah, I'm at risk of getting counterclaimed, I'm at risk of people not believing my claim and lynching either me or xs, I'm at risk of people figuring that I can't be DT cause of setup at a later stage.
Then there's the argument that I didn't have to claim cause xs wasn't at risk of getting lynched (by Bugs), then there's the opposite argument that I had no point of claiming at that point if I wanted to protect him as scumbuddy since he wasn't too much at danger.
JX, you keep dodging the Mocsta option, what exactly makes him town in your opinion if you doubt my DT check in the first place?
You for one thought he was in danger.... that's what matters more.
I'm down for a xsk lynch. I've been wanting to lynch him but the green check didn't allow it
On February 02 2013 00:33 JieXian wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2013 00:23 Vivax wrote:
JX and Mocsta are mafia, convince them to lynch each other and enjoy the show when they try to find reasons not to. The only person I definitely won't lynch for now is iamp. (and the VG/SKs for today)
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On February 02 2013 00:55 iamperfection wrote:
can we stop the fail quoting for a bit?
Did you go read yamato's filter ?
Your impressions ?
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I'd prefer to lynch JX first, his weird reads don't look natural.
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On February 02 2013 00:56 JieXian wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2013 00:50 Vivax wrote:
Yeah, I'm at risk of getting counterclaimed, I'm at risk of people not believing my claim and lynching either me or xs, I'm at risk of people figuring that I can't be DT cause of setup at a later stage.
Then there's the argument that I didn't have to claim cause xs wasn't at risk of getting lynched (by Bugs), then there's the opposite argument that I had no point of claiming at that point if I wanted to protect him as scumbuddy since he wasn't too much at danger.
JX, you keep dodging the Mocsta option, what exactly makes him town in your opinion if you doubt my DT check in the first place? You for one thought he was in danger.... that's what matters more. I'm down for a xsk lynch. I've been wanting to lynch him but the green check didn't allow it Show nested quote +On February 02 2013 00:33 JieXian wrote:On February 02 2013 00:23 Vivax wrote:
JX and Mocsta are mafia, convince them to lynch each other and enjoy the show when they try to find reasons not to. The only person I definitely won't lynch for now is iamp. (and the VG/SKs for today)
What do you think about Vivax now ? Do you see there is no way for him to be scum ?
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[QUOTE]On February 02 2013 00:54 Djodref wrote:
[QUOTE]On February 02 2013 00:52 JieXian wrote:
[QUOTE]On February 02 2013 00:48 Djodref wrote:
[QUOTE]On February 02 2013 00:39 Djodref wrote:
*snip*
As scum, you could be very ballsy and claim a green check on your partner (it makes no sense to claim a green check on a townie who is going to get mislynched) because you always take the risk to get counterclaimed. But Vivax wants to lynch his own green check, so I don't think Mocsta is his buddy.
Also you claim to protect yourself as scum. Vivax claimed to protect a green check. Vivax is town. He is my strongest townread right now.
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He definitely didn't claim to protect himself at that moment, obviously. It was to protect xsk.
Of course he wants to lynch/bus xsk. He's been bringing up the possibility of a GF for every other time he mentions that xsk is green. I already said how I found that very scummy.[/QUOTE]
You don't take the risk to be counterclaim to save your scumbuddy to tell everybody that he is GF when people don't want to lynch him anymore. Vivax is town.[/QUOTE]
Ok that makes sense.
You didn't mention it earlier
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Agree; JX is failing miserably in these regards.
I cant believe he thinks me n Vivax are a scum team bussing each other.
There was nothing to gain at that point in time. and everything to lose if scum motivated.
Bussing Thrawn made some sense if he was such a liability as others stated.
But why bus the 2nd member of a 3 man team, when your already one man down. THATS STUPID PLAY.
##Vote: JieXian
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No.
What if Vivax is scum with yamato and claimed for townie credit
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On February 02 2013 00:57 Djodref wrote:
What do you think about Vivax now ? Do you see there is no way for him to be scum ?
Your doing a lot of mediating. Time to reverse roles please.
You have said your piece on Vivax, but thats a pretty easy read to give due to straight forward logic.
JX said iamp is his only confirmed town. What is your read on iamp; and what do you make of JX statement ?
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I'm not failing mocsta, I'm thinking. I'm discussing
I haven't even started accusing either of you yet
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On February 02 2013 01:00 Mocsta wrote:
Agree; JX is failing miserably in these regards.
I cant believe he thinks me n Vivax are a scum team bussing each other.
There was nothing to gain at that point in time. and everything to lose if scum motivated.
Bussing Thrawn made some sense if he was such a liability as others stated.
But why bus the 2nd member of a 3 man team, when your already one man down. THATS STUPID PLAY.
##Vote: JieXian
Djo and you have a point. I no longer think you 2 are together
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On February 02 2013 01:01 JieXian wrote:
No.
What if Vivax is scum with yamato and claimed for townie credit
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On February 02 2013 00:52 JieXian wrote:
He definitely didn't claim to protect himself at that moment, obviously. It was to protect xsk.
Of course he wants to lynch/bus xsk. He's been bringing up the possibility of a GF for every other time he mentions that xsk is green. I already said how I found that very scummy.
pretty clear your referring to scum team as me + vivax
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Btw
I'm trying to think here. If everyone can asnwer my questions Vivax will be a townie to me and I'll know who to lynch
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On February 02 2013 01:00 Mocsta wrote:
Agree; JX is failing miserably in these regards.
I cant believe he thinks me n Vivax are a scum team bussing each other.
There was nothing to gain at that point in time. and everything to lose if scum motivated.
Bussing Thrawn made some sense if he was such a liability as others stated.
But why bus the 2nd member of a 3 man team, when your already one man down. THATS STUPID PLAY.
##Vote: JieXian
Yo, who is JX scumbuddy ? Yamato, right ? So we lynch yamato today.
Or you have to explain me why you think JX is more likely to flip scum than yamato.
You should also explain me why scum should have doubts about Vivax alignment. The thing with scum players is that they know Vivax is town, so they believe his claim way more easily.
You should explain me how JieXian got 11 pages of filter as scum, saying everything passing through his mind.
You should explain me how JieXian bussed thrawn on D1.
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I asked you questions first Djodref.
I will reciprocate once you do.
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On February 02 2013 01:03 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2013 01:01 JieXian wrote:
No.
What if Vivax is scum with yamato and claimed for townie credit ?? Show nested quote +On February 02 2013 00:52 JieXian wrote:
He definitely didn't claim to protect himself at that moment, obviously. It was to protect xsk.
Of course he wants to lynch/bus xsk. He's been bringing up the possibility of a GF for every other time he mentions that xsk is green. I already said how I found that very scummy. pretty clear your referring to scum team as me + vivax
After reading what you 2 have to say, that train of thought is completely wrong.
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On February 02 2013 01:04 JieXian wrote:
Btw
I'm trying to think here. If everyone can asnwer my questions Vivax will be a townie to me and I'll know who to lynch
LOL
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