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Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
February 01 2013 15:33 GMT
#1941
Iamp

What do you think about the balance of the team ?
I don t see toad rolling jx xksc thrawn as scum against marv hapa ve bugs ss as town and say
^lets roll this shit! ^
JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
February 01 2013 15:33 GMT
#1942
On February 02 2013 00:23 Vivax wrote:
JX and Mocsta are mafia, convince them to lynch each other and enjoy the show when they try to find reasons not to.


The only person I definitely won't lynch for now is iamp. (and the VG/SKs for today)
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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
February 01 2013 15:36 GMT
#1943
On February 02 2013 00:33 Djodref wrote:
Iamp

What do you think about the balance of the team ?
I don t see toad rolling jx xksc thrawn as scum against marv hapa ve bugs ss as town and say
^lets roll this shit! ^


Why don't you ask Toad if he picked the teams on his own then? Can't know if he randomized or not if you just speculate about it.
Balance arguments don't have a place in here now.
JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
February 01 2013 15:36 GMT
#1944
On February 02 2013 00:33 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2013 00:31 JieXian wrote:
On February 02 2013 00:11 Mocsta wrote:
your an idiot jx.

the intent of the post is pretty clear

if u doubt something specific let me know so i can address it to you personally


In that case I must be missing something. Please explain

Extrapolate. You have asked me a question. You have stated rhetoric.


I meant it as a question.

1) What's your point? What do you mean? (ie either I don't get you or you're bullshitting)

2) What I'm thinking: Were you red you'd always be happy to be considered green. I'm showing you my thought process. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
February 01 2013 15:39 GMT
#1945
On February 02 2013 00:28 JieXian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2013 00:27 iamperfection wrote:
On February 02 2013 00:26 JieXian wrote:
djo and iamp talk to me please

about what


Show nested quote +
On February 02 2013 00:22 JieXian wrote:
@Djo : My only confirmed town read is iamp, unsure about the rest.

Correct me if I'm wrong but does Vivax have anything to lose as mafia by claiming 1 shot DT? I don't know how the c9++ setup works.



As scum, you could be very ballsy and claim a green check on your partner (it makes no sense to claim a green check on a townie who is going to get mislynched) because you always take the risk to get counterclaimed. But Vivax wants to lynch his own green check, so I don't think Mocsta is his buddy.
Also you claim to protect yourself as scum. Vivax claimed to protect a green check. Vivax is town. He is my strongest townread right now.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 01 2013 15:39 GMT
#1946
That last point was a WIFOM statement. I clearly specified it.

The intention of the post was.. I found xsksc behaviour badly timed as well.

He did link a news article stating why his internet was down; but, regardless, I could see why people thought he was scum enough to consider green check as Godfather.

I was also asking for people to give me a chance to prove my innocence; instead of condemn me due to the actions of an inactive.

If you read the post, you would realise this was the first thing I commented on.

Instead you are asphyxiated on the WIFOM statement, that I indeed claim is WIFOM. I even say that doesnt make me innocent, so again, its completely stupid your even questioning the post.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 01 2013 15:41 GMT
#1947
On February 02 2013 00:36 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2013 00:33 Djodref wrote:
Iamp

What do you think about the balance of the team ?
I don t see toad rolling jx xksc thrawn as scum against marv hapa ve bugs ss as town and say
^lets roll this shit! ^


Why don't you ask Toad if he picked the teams on his own then? Can't know if he randomized or not if you just speculate about it.
Balance arguments don't have a place in here now.

I don't pick teams, ever. I roll randomly and in a game like this (C9++) it is utterly essential to do so.
If it's a game where you can't really just roll randomly (like SSB-mafia was for example, which I hosted as well) I usually still roll randomly, look at the result and reroll until I get something that looks good to me. That's due to the nature of it being one of the weirdes themed games on TL though.

So no, rolled everything randomely.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
February 01 2013 15:41 GMT
#1948
On February 02 2013 00:33 Djodref wrote:
Iamp

What do you think about the balance of the team ?
I don t see toad rolling jx xksc thrawn as scum against marv hapa ve bugs ss as town and say
^lets roll this shit! ^


I was thinking that it makes complete sense. He gave Vivax the DT role (if vivax isn't lying) and that says a lot about his decision making process.

He probably picked the roles but he is definitely up to troll.
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Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 01 2013 15:42 GMT
#1949
On February 02 2013 00:39 Djodref wrote:
Vivax is town. He is my strongest townread right now.

So.. where does that leave Prome, your supposed "clone"
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
February 01 2013 15:42 GMT
#1950
On February 02 2013 00:36 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2013 00:33 Djodref wrote:
Iamp

What do you think about the balance of the team ?
I don t see toad rolling jx xksc thrawn as scum against marv hapa ve bugs ss as town and say
^lets roll this shit! ^


Why don't you ask Toad if he picked the teams on his own then? Can't know if he randomized or not if you just speculate about it.
Balance arguments don't have a place in here now.


On January 22 2013 11:10 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2013 11:02 debears wrote:
As I said, Djo is likely scum :D

I agree with him being weird but I see no reason to go down that road right now.

He was voting for me and while some of his posts explaining stuff for me (?) seemed odd he ended up voting me and not Chez which means he's awesome for now :p

There's better targets we should look into right now. Namely oats, maybe still Annul imo but he looks somewhat better with prplhz lynch I guess... Balancewise that is.
Grush looks utterly terrible as well but not sure if that's alignment indicative...


Toad takes care of the balance as a player, so I assume he takes care of it as a host. Honestly I would re-roll my setup if I had Hapa, ghost, VE, bugs/ss and marv all town players.
It's a weak argument against yamato but it's one more argument against him. Seriously, just have a look at yamato's filter and tell me that it is not fucking scummy.
Also trust SS and wbg, they are really not bad players. Yamato is scum.
JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
February 01 2013 15:43 GMT
#1951
edit BUT he gave*
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JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
February 01 2013 15:44 GMT
#1952
oh forget it he posted
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Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
February 01 2013 15:44 GMT
#1953
On February 02 2013 00:42 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2013 00:39 Djodref wrote:
Vivax is town. He is my strongest townread right now.

So.. where does that leave Prome, your supposed "clone"


I think Prom is town vig as well, but I'm always afraid that Prome could be SK. The good thing about him is that is 100% not mafia, so I'm not going to take care about him until all mafia players are lynched. And I think that the game should end at that point right now.
JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
February 01 2013 15:45 GMT
#1954
On February 02 2013 00:42 Djodref wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2013 00:36 Vivax wrote:
On February 02 2013 00:33 Djodref wrote:
Iamp

What do you think about the balance of the team ?
I don t see toad rolling jx xksc thrawn as scum against marv hapa ve bugs ss as town and say
^lets roll this shit! ^


Why don't you ask Toad if he picked the teams on his own then? Can't know if he randomized or not if you just speculate about it.
Balance arguments don't have a place in here now.


Show nested quote +
On January 22 2013 11:10 Toadesstern wrote:
On January 22 2013 11:02 debears wrote:
As I said, Djo is likely scum :D

I agree with him being weird but I see no reason to go down that road right now.

He was voting for me and while some of his posts explaining stuff for me (?) seemed odd he ended up voting me and not Chez which means he's awesome for now :p

There's better targets we should look into right now. Namely oats, maybe still Annul imo but he looks somewhat better with prplhz lynch I guess... Balancewise that is.
Grush looks utterly terrible as well but not sure if that's alignment indicative...


Toad takes care of the balance as a player, so I assume he takes care of it as a host. Honestly I would re-roll my setup if I had Hapa, ghost, VE, bugs/ss and marv all town players.
It's a weak argument against yamato but it's one more argument against him. Seriously, just have a look at yamato's filter and tell me that it is not fucking scummy.
Also trust SS and wbg, they are really not bad players. Yamato is scum.


I really wonder why Vivax thinks yamato is busy rocking too hard in RL to play mafia
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Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
February 01 2013 15:45 GMT
#1955
sniped ^^
JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
February 01 2013 15:46 GMT
#1956
Someone answer me please

On February 02 2013 00:22 JieXian wrote:
@Djo : My only confirmed town read is iamp, unsure about the rest.

Correct me if I'm wrong but does Vivax have anything to lose as mafia by claiming 1 shot DT? I don't know how the c9++ setup works.

[/QUOTE]
Please send me a PM of any song you like that I most probably never heard of! I am looking for people to chat about writing and producing music | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noD-bsOcxuU |
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
February 01 2013 15:48 GMT
#1957
On February 02 2013 00:39 Djodref wrote:
*snip*

As scum, you could be very ballsy and claim a green check on your partner (it makes no sense to claim a green check on a townie who is going to get mislynched) because you always take the risk to get counterclaimed. But Vivax wants to lynch his own green check, so I don't think Mocsta is his buddy.
Also you claim to protect yourself as scum. Vivax claimed to protect a green check. Vivax is town. He is my strongest townread right now.


@ Jiexian

This repost should answer your question. Vivax is most definitively town, judging by his actions.

@ everyone

Speak up now if you think that Vivax could be scum !
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
February 01 2013 15:49 GMT
#1958
On February 02 2013 00:46 JieXian wrote:
Someone answer me please

Show nested quote +
On February 02 2013 00:22 JieXian wrote:
@Djo : My only confirmed town read is iamp, unsure about the rest.

Correct me if I'm wrong but does Vivax have anything to lose as mafia by claiming 1 shot DT? I don't know how the c9++ setup works.


[/QUOTE]
you go look at the way he claimed an tell me if it looks like a calculated scum claim.

he slipped that he was dt for god sakes.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 01 2013 15:50 GMT
#1959
On February 02 2013 00:46 JieXian wrote:
Someone answer me please

Show nested quote +
On February 02 2013 00:22 JieXian wrote:
@Djo : My only confirmed town read is iamp, unsure about the rest.

Correct me if I'm wrong but does Vivax have anything to lose as mafia by claiming 1 shot DT? I don't know how the c9++ setup works.



Its a tough one.. It almost seems unnatural how many times he has received DT.

I cant see a reason to do a gambit of Fake DT -> Fake check = green & then push as godfather

Even if for whatever reason Vivax was trolling and decided to test this theory out..

The shock he expresses post Night 1 is pretty genuine. I dont think that can be faked. He was really conflicted.
After the check, xsksc started becoming inactive (very convenient) so it was natural for Vivax to question this.

So, to answer your question. I dont see how the cons outweight the pros of this move if faked. Vivax is DT, Vivax is town.

Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
February 01 2013 15:50 GMT
#1960
Yeah, I'm at risk of getting counterclaimed, I'm at risk of people not believing my claim and lynching either me or xs, I'm at risk of people figuring that I can't be DT cause of setup at a later stage.

Then there's the argument that I didn't have to claim cause xs wasn't at risk of getting lynched (by Bugs), then there's the opposite argument that I had no point of claiming at that point if I wanted to protect him as scumbuddy since he wasn't too much at danger.

JX, you keep dodging the Mocsta option, what exactly makes him town in your opinion if you doubt my DT check in the first place?
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