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johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 30 2012 22:46 GMT
#1941
why did this become so inactive?
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
April 30 2012 22:52 GMT
#1942
when scum gave up
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
April 30 2012 22:54 GMT
#1943
Well, I could use a break. I need to catch up on Game of Thrones anyway, might as well do it now.
Нас зовет дух отцов, память старых бойцов, дух Москвы и твердыня Полтавы
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 30 2012 22:56 GMT
#1944
if scum gave up then whos scum? because it seems like everyone stopped posting/gave up.
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 30 2012 22:57 GMT
#1945
What do you mean use a break? You haven't posted anything except that to take a break from
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
April 30 2012 22:57 GMT
#1946
ottox for sure, risen and brood/BM
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
April 30 2012 23:08 GMT
#1947
On May 01 2012 07:57 johnnywup wrote:
What do you mean use a break? You haven't posted anything except that to take a break from


I'm still reading this for updates every 15 minutes or so. I've cast my vote, and 5 of the 10 remaining people have cast their vote for Ottoxlol. By break, I mean I probably won't come back to check this thread until morning.
Нас зовет дух отцов, память старых бойцов, дух Москвы и твердыня Полтавы
Ottoxlol
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
735 Posts
April 30 2012 23:09 GMT
#1948
Thanks for informing us.
BroodKingEXE
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States829 Posts
May 01 2012 00:09 GMT
#1949
@Paq, This post

On April 30 2012 00:52 Ottoxlol wrote:
ghost soft defending StD

Show nested quote +
On April 24 2012 23:29 ghost_403 wrote:
StDaniel is en route to being modkilled. If he comes back and does nothing, I will discuss him as a possible lynch candidate. Since he's not even playing, there's no point in pushing for his lynch.


He's attacking Sent because he's lurking, yet he did not even mention StD apart from that post.

Paqman's attacking BM for lurking, mentions BK, doesnt mention StD apart from two very soft defenses. He mentions that we waste d3 discussion on stupid speculation, but doesnt contribute a thing.

Janaan doesnt mention him at all, to be fair he's mentioning that we should not lynch lurker d2-3 because we have posts that we can work with (this was about BM's lynch so I don't think it is relevant).

Every other ppl mentioned StD for lynch target or scumread, but no one pushed him other then BK. StD layed really low tho.

ghost and Paqman are my reads based on their relations with StD, and their unwillingness to engage in the discussion in the thread.

Janaan gives me a headache, he would be my greenest read, but StD voted two times the person he made a case on. Of course this is not conclusive, but he was noob scum, and with Janaan not mentioning him it is a bit suspicious.

1) He had more reasoning behind suspecting Sent.
2) BM is doing more than lurking he is posting like scum to go along with it.
3) Trying to implicate me, because I suspected StD? He just cast suspicion on ghost and paq for not suspecting StD.
4) What relations? He didn't post anything in this post besides baseless accusations.
Playing Protoss = Opponent owned
BroodKingEXE
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States829 Posts
May 01 2012 00:12 GMT
#1950
EBWOP: I meant that his post doesn't make any connections, except "very soft defenses".
Playing Protoss = Opponent owned
Ottoxlol
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
735 Posts
May 01 2012 00:17 GMT
#1951
Hah. Is english your native tongue? How can u interpret this sentence as implication. Baseless accusations? That word means there was no quotes of what they have been posting. There was... No one attacking the case other then "its weak" "Ottox is so scummy lynch him". Scum stopping the thread, town is too weak to think by themselves, GG.
BroodKingEXE
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States829 Posts
May 01 2012 00:38 GMT
#1952
On May 01 2012 09:17 Ottoxlol wrote:
Hah. Is english your native tongue? How can u interpret this sentence as implication. Baseless accusations? That word means there was no quotes of what they have been posting. There was... No one attacking the case other then "its weak" "Ottox is so scummy lynch him". Scum stopping the thread, town is too weak to think by themselves, GG.


What was the point of the third point you made then? What quotes? What do you mean by:"No one attacking the case other then "its weak" "Ottox is so scummy lynch him". Scum stopping the thread, town is too weak to think by themselves, GG". I don't understand at all.
Playing Protoss = Opponent owned
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
May 01 2012 00:51 GMT
#1953
I don't think Ottox is the correct lynch for today
Ottoxlol
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
735 Posts
May 01 2012 00:53 GMT
#1954
This post exactly.
I was talking about StD's relations. Sorry that I mentioned you were the only one voting him (somehow you interpreted this as I am trying to incriminate you?)
Go back, find my post that I made after the one you quoted first. Then read the posts after that from the others.
PaqMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1475 Posts
May 01 2012 00:57 GMT
#1955
On May 01 2012 09:51 johnnywup wrote:
I don't think Ottox is the correct lynch for today


Then who is?
t(ツ)t
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
May 01 2012 01:09 GMT
#1956
im confused how BKEXE didn't get modkilled because had a 4 day gap in posting...

also as for who i want to die instead I'm not sure. but this post bothered me while looking through ghosts filter:

On April 24 2012 11:26 ghost_403 wrote:
Marv. Please flip town. Plzplzplzplzplzplz.

Time to catch up on the thread. brb

FYI, my plan for catching up on the thread means reading to everything past the night post, then returning through the events of Day 1. Probably going to take a while, but I'm not going to bed until I post something constructive. I'm a bawse like that.


marv, please flip town? wtf




Anyways, I'm gonna be reading up filters and making my decision.
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
May 01 2012 01:34 GMT
#1957
On May 01 2012 09:17 Ottoxlol wrote:
Hah. Is english your native tongue? How can u interpret this sentence as implication. Baseless accusations? That word means there was no quotes of what they have been posting. There was... No one attacking the case other then "its weak" "Ottox is so scummy lynch him". Scum stopping the thread, town is too weak to think by themselves, GG.

I don't think so. With 5 people on you, it is a town wagon
unvote;
vote: ottoxlol


come to think of it, wagons have failed on you two days running.
I'm going to solidify this, so there are no late shenanigans which could bring us to no lynch
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
May 01 2012 01:37 GMT
#1958
On May 01 2012 10:09 johnnywup wrote:
im confused how BKEXE didn't get modkilled because had a 4 day gap in posting...

also as for who i want to die instead I'm not sure. but this post bothered me while looking through ghosts filter:

Show nested quote +
On April 24 2012 11:26 ghost_403 wrote:
Marv. Please flip town. Plzplzplzplzplzplz.

Time to catch up on the thread. brb

FYI, my plan for catching up on the thread means reading to everything past the night post, then returning through the events of Day 1. Probably going to take a while, but I'm not going to bed until I post something constructive. I'm a bawse like that.


marv, please flip town? wtf




Anyways, I'm gonna be reading up filters and making my decision.

probably the same reason St.Daniel got a break
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
May 01 2012 01:57 GMT
#1959
Ok, first off theres Bill Murray. Verdict: Goon. Meta-reason: Compare his filter to his DFM2 posting (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=324050&user=54241). He wasn't very active there either, but he made reads and took sides and made substantial posts. Here he tells people that they're wrong. That's it. He doesn't make a case or say anything unless he's directly responding to accusations against him. There are some examples of him responding to posts not about him, but they're still small and not relevant. He's scraping by lynches by not taking stances and that's unacceptable. He's scum. I'm not quoting him to point out certain points in his posting because all his posts are very similar. There's not too much for me to say about BM because he hasn't posted much. I think he's Goon because he's staying out of the spotlight as much as often. This makes him look more goon than GF because without Goon there isn't any KP left for mafia. Same concept for vigs (which we dont have anyways). The others are Godfather by default of me thinking that BM is Goon (since theres 1 left) and because they're not afraid to put themselves out in the open as much as BM.



Then theres Ghost_403. Verdict: Godfather
On April 22 2012 10:02 ghost_403 wrote:
Ghost's response to sloosh's case on VE.

+ Show Spoiler +
You guys are really cutting into my internet spaceships time.+ Show Spoiler +
Join the Hatchery!


Point 1) I totally agree with sloosh's point here. VE's idea that a JK would work against a claimed vig is just stupid, and one of the first things he said that made me think that he was scum.

Point 2) I thought his scumslip argument was stupid. Said that already.

Point 3) Yeah, I agree with that. VE avoided discussing most of his counterarguments.

Point 4) I agree with this.

Well, I'm sold. I'm happy with a VE lynch. VE today, Sentinel tomorrow?

BONUS: Hey! Sentinel decided to join us!


On April 23 2012 01:28 ghost_403 wrote:
I think a BM lynch is a terrible idea (vig shout would be fine though). I don't think I've ever seen a case where a ninja vote was due to someone being scum. There's too much risk and no reward for scum in this situation. I think he's just insane.

I really don't like the fact that Sentinel immediately jumped on the lynch BM bandwagon. Trying to lynch insane players is scummy in my book. Same goes for you Mattchew. Why would scum even try to ninja vote? It makes way more sense to sheep instead. No one would have thought twice if BM had shown up in thread and said "lol VE scum ##vote VE".

VE's claim is bad. He's doing the same thing that he did in TLM LI in claiming when there's no reason to. I can't imagine scum VE doing the same thing twice, but now we're into WIFOM territory. In addition, JK is the only nonconfirmable role in the game. A vig shot shows up in the day post, and a tracker can confirm where someone went that night. It only makes sense that scum VE would claim JK.


I've said I think BM is scum. So this stuff makes perfect sense. Soft defending his scum mate, and attacking townies (who we now know are indeed townies)

then we have:


On April 23 2012 07:03 ghost_403 wrote:
@johnnywup: I have no idea why you thought a few hours before the lynch was a good time to bring forward another lynch candidate. Seriously?

I'm not really seeing why Risen is scum. Sure, he's loud, obnoxious and belligerent, but that doesn't say anything about his alignment.

I'm still pretty happy with a VE lynch. I thought he was scum before he claimed, and I don't buy his claim. Even if his claim is true, he's functioning in an anti-town manner. Also, I'm surprised that no one has brought up the point that he's pretty much ragequit.

Marvellosity is still posting nothing of content. I'd be down with that lynch.

and 12 minutes later...

On April 23 2012 07:15 ghost_403 wrote:
BlazingJitsu, you down with a Risen lynch?


then we have:


On April 24 2012 11:26 ghost_403 wrote:
Marv. Please flip town. Plzplzplzplzplzplz.

Time to catch up on the thread. brb

FYI, my plan for catching up on the thread means reading to everything past the night post, then returning through the events of Day 1. Probably going to take a while, but I'm not going to bed until I post something constructive. I'm a bawse like that.

which I don't even understand. Why would you say "marv please flip town" unless you're scum and meant to say it in mafia qt?

then he posts a case on sentinel (who we now know is town)
On April 24 2012 21:15 ghost_403 wrote:+ Show Spoiler +

Another thing that I was going to note last night was the fact that Sentinel has been lurking like a bawse through this whole game. If you take a look at what he wrote last night, he more or less claimed that he was onboard the VE lynch, and that's it. Sentinel is afraid of posting in this thread, because he's afraid he'll do something to out his scumbuddies. I thought he was scum yesterday, our townie friend sloosh thought he was scum before Sentinel killed him, and I think we should be lynching him today. I'm guessing that he rolled goon, which is why he's so afraid to get caught. Scum KP should drop to 1 after we lynch Sentinel.




Let's look at Sentinel's posts from last night!

Poast 1

"I was totally onboard for the VE lynch before VE was". Who cares? What does this add to the thread? How does this help us hunt scum? MG's idea that the scum voted to lynch VE before the townies is flawed to begin with, and now he somehow wants more credit for it?


On April 24 2012 09:05 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2012 08:50 Mattchew wrote:
posting reads before deadline... have to shit real bad so brb in like 20

[image loading]


Wait... how the hell do you brand Risen green because of "town meta"? I think his aggressive-defensive bipolarity kinda ruined that aspect. If anything makes him green is that he backed VE till the end.


Scum love making townie reads, because it saves them the trouble of scum hunting. You have nothing to say about the fact that Mattchew thinks you're scum? I'd be pissed if I ended up red on that list.

On April 24 2012 09:26 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
I'm in Star Battle so I won't make the deadline. I'll probably post some once I'm done, closer to 14:00 GMT (+00:00)


"I'm going to give myself an excuse not to post so I can avoid scumslipping."

On April 24 2012 10:41 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Fuck, have to push back my reply to tomorrow early morning.


See above.

On April 24 2012 10:43 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
I'm posting exactly seven hours from now. I think I'll make it.


See above.




There's no reason for a townie to have this little content in the game. One post with a decent thought is all I ask for. Just one. One post where I can look back and agree or disagree with what you have to say. Instead, this. Nothing of content. The lack of content from Sentinel is due to the fact that's he's terrified of being caught.

That's 'cause Sentinel rolled scum.

##vote [UoN]Sentinel
which is actually a really really bad case, points out small things but no big picture scummy things. I'll admit I thought Sentinel was scum, but ghost is really grasping at straws with this case.

then ghost starts to get on the ottox train after BJ makes a long post about him:
On April 24 2012 21:05 ghost_403 wrote:
Haha, chainsaw defense. I've been giving Ottoxlol a noob pass since Day 1, but perhaps BJ is right. I'd be down with a Ottoxlol lynch.

The other thing that I don't like about Ottoxlol is the fact that he's not hunting scum at all. If you take a look through his filter, his suggestions for lynches are all lurkers. There's 50 pages in this thread, and he can't find any scum who are posting? I assumed it was due to the fact that he's a newb, but newbs roll scum too.

@ottoxlol: If you don't want me to try and get you lynched today, start hunting some scum. You want to suggest someone who isn't lurking and/or insane?


Which is taking a "I think you're a newb" to a "I think you're scum and I'm gonna lynch you unless you do something productive" standpoint. Huge change. This is because of BJs case but I feel like this was a perfect opportunity for ghost to get some "town cred".

Then he exaggerates risens voteswitch as "claiming scum". Then of course ghost goes hardcore down on lynching ottox, which I still think is to gain towncred by lynching a scum. I still think ottox is scum but I don't think that.




Then there's ottox. There's been tons of cases against Ottox so I don't feel like I need to repeat things. I think Ottox is a Godfather. Oh, by the way, once Ottox flips scum, he left a trail to lead Ghost to "being town".


On April 30 2012 09:30 Ottoxlol wrote:
Hey guys, let's lynch Ghost_403.

##vote Ghost_403

This post just says "when i die at least my scum mate will look a lot more townie".

GG
PaqMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1475 Posts
May 01 2012 02:46 GMT
#1960
Hmm, I like I like. I had my suspicions D1 but they got dropped when I started going after Risen.

Ghost, can you convince me that you're town?
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