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BroodKingEXE
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States829 Posts
May 01 2012 03:19 GMT
#1961
I am kind of confused about Ghost. I know its WIFOM, but he doesn't really fit being scum in my connection map. The case makes sense though, should I post mine (I made a case on Ghost) as well?
Playing Protoss = Opponent owned
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
May 01 2012 03:25 GMT
#1962
On May 01 2012 12:19 BroodKingEXE wrote:
I am kind of confused about Ghost. I know its WIFOM, but he doesn't really fit being scum in my connection map. The case makes sense though, should I post mine (I made a case on Ghost) as well?


No.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
BroodKingEXE
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States829 Posts
May 01 2012 03:31 GMT
#1963
@Johnny I saw that thing about Marv flipping town too. It was not a scummy move, it was a joke. BJ promised to eat his hat if Marv was a townie.
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Janaan
Profile Joined June 2011
United States381 Posts
May 01 2012 03:59 GMT
#1964
Glad to see some discussion going on after that long period of inactivity. That's precisely why I don't like it when everyone votes so soon in the day, it shuts down discussion. Johnny's case definitely looks possible. Broodking, I personally would like to see your case on Ghost if you have one, I don't know why Risen doesn't. There's still plenty of time to talk things over before the night phase. Just because Ottoxlol already has a majority of votes on him and most everyone does think he's scum, doesn't mean that we should just not do anything for 20 hours.

I read BM's filter from the previous game, there does seem to be a real difference. In this game, BM keeps saying that he's scum-hunting but we haven't seen any real evidence. In his other game, he obviously was. He's called us wrong and called us idiots, but hasn't once said why he thinks that, also a difference from the other game.
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
May 01 2012 03:59 GMT
#1965
Yeah, I realized that after I posted that. Ignore that part
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
May 01 2012 04:00 GMT
#1966
Oh by the way ##vote Bill Murray
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
May 01 2012 04:01 GMT
#1967
I was being sarcastic. If you have a case why wouldn't you post it?
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Janaan
Profile Joined June 2011
United States381 Posts
May 01 2012 04:12 GMT
#1968
Another odd thing about BM is that he says he's not going to "sheep" us by voting Ottoxlol since he wants to find the goon, then when no one follows him he throws that out the window and seems to put the nail in Ottox's coffin, which conveniently seemed to stop most discussion until Johnny's case, wasting the town's time.
BroodKingEXE
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States829 Posts
May 01 2012 04:17 GMT
#1969
Case on Ghost_403:

+ Show Spoiler +
On April 22 2012 07:50 ghost_403 wrote:
@BJ + Show Spoiler +
lol
4F doesn't deserve to die in any game. That guy was a genius at finding scum, he just didn't know it.

VE is probably scum. Accusing gonzaw of a scumslip is just terribad, and someone of his experience should know better. Also, the idea of a JK working against the town is such a fashion is WTF bad. If he was a noob, I would give him a pass, but he's not. He should know better than that.

Sentinel obviously rolled scum this game. His filter has nothing of content, and when layabout called him out, it took him 15 minutes to unlurk, at which point he added nothing to the conversation. He's here, but not contributing at all. I think he would make an excellent Day 1 lynch.


The problem with this is that we had plenty of other lurkers at the time. Layabout called out 5-7 of us (depending on if you consider sleeping an anti town action), so why was Sen the worst out of them? For this post? I find it quite strange when others had less posts, and questionable productiveness that he chose to go for an active lurker. His reasoning for not voting for VE is contradicted in a later post is that he is playing too scummy. WTH, why is it that VE’s super bad play give him the right to live?
+ Show Spoiler +

On April 22 2012 08:12 ghost_403 wrote:
@gonzaw: I think a town should be focused in what they do, so I don't like throwing votes around all over the place. If I had to vote for one of them right now, I would vote sentinel over VE. My only reservations about voting VE at the moment is that I think he should play a better scum game, but I can see his scumslip case as something he was hoping other townies would catch on to and run with.


He says a town should be focused in what they do and should keep their vote in place. Then he shouldn’t have abandoned this statement and go after paq. He points out both Matt and marv as being useless and non productive. It still begs the question on why he put his vote on Sent, why couldn’t he find any information besides him being a lurker?
+ Show Spoiler +

On April 22 2012 09:35 ghost_403 wrote:
@johnny: I hate writing up cases against people. I pointed it out that I think he's scummy here. I think big posts are a waste of time and space, but that's probably why no one listens to me in these games.

brb, writing up a big poast.

This is very strange he just said big posts are “a waste of time and space”, but he has no problem writing one up in the very next post.

"The Very Next Post."
I see a lot of twisting of context in this post (very scummy).
Spoiler 1: Read the post right before it. This is a response to VE’s conviction, aka he’s asking VE, the only person who thought he was mafia whether gonzaw’s point was misguided. We were talking about policy, so obviously you are allowed to disagree with him in order to get a correct policy on the table.

Spoiler 2: Anarchy? Far from it, he is suggesting scrapping a policy lynch and letting everyone look for scum and vote based on their own feelings.

What do we get from this post? Sentinel is a lurker, like a lot of other people in the thread, which still begs the question why Sent, how has ghost picked him?
+ Show Spoiler +

On April 23 2012 01:52 ghost_403 wrote:
Wow, I could have sworn that I read that Sentinel voted BM. -_-

My bad. That knocks him into second place in my list of people I think are scummy. When I have more time, I'll look back into the Sentinel == scum thing. Working on a Linear Algebra problem at the moment. brb


I’ll look back into the “Sent == scum thing?” You didn’t need BM’s bandwagoning to vote for Sent in the first place, so why would you need to go back on your vote?

Next he moves on to Ottoxlol, his only reasoning? He’s looking for lurkers. -_-, Your main lynch candidate at one time was a lurker (in fact that was your only argument for suspecting him).
+ Show Spoiler +

On April 24 2012 21:15 ghost_403 wrote:
Another thing that I was going to note last night was the fact that Sentinel has been lurking like a bawse through this whole game. If you take a look at what he wrote last night, he more or less claimed that he was onboard the VE lynch, and that's it. Sentinel is afraid of posting in this thread, because he's afraid he'll do something to out his scumbuddies. I thought he was scum yesterday, our townie friend sloosh thought he was scum before Sentinel killed him, and I think we should be lynching him today. I'm guessing that he rolled goon, which is why he's so afraid to get caught. Scum KP should drop to 1 after we lynch Sentinel.




Let's look at Sentinel's posts from last night!

Poast 1

"I was totally onboard for the VE lynch before VE was". Who cares? What does this add to the thread? How does this help us hunt scum? MG's idea that the scum voted to lynch VE before the townies is flawed to begin with, and now he somehow wants more credit for it?


On April 24 2012 09:05 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2012 08:50 Mattchew wrote:
posting reads before deadline... have to shit real bad so brb in like 20

[image loading]


Wait... how the hell do you brand Risen green because of "town meta"? I think his aggressive-defensive bipolarity kinda ruined that aspect. If anything makes him green is that he backed VE till the end.


Scum love making townie reads, because it saves them the trouble of scum hunting. You have nothing to say about the fact that Mattchew thinks you're scum? I'd be pissed if I ended up red on that list.

On April 24 2012 09:26 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
I'm in Star Battle so I won't make the deadline. I'll probably post some once I'm done, closer to 14:00 GMT (+00:00)


"I'm going to give myself an excuse not to post so I can avoid scumslipping."

On April 24 2012 10:41 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Fuck, have to push back my reply to tomorrow early morning.


See above.

On April 24 2012 10:43 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
I'm posting exactly seven hours from now. I think I'll make it.


See above.




There's no reason for a townie to have this little content in the game. One post with a decent thought is all I ask for. Just one. One post where I can look back and agree or disagree with what you have to say. Instead, this. Nothing of content. The lack of content from Sentinel is due to the fact that's he's terrified of being caught.

That's 'cause Sentinel rolled scum.

##vote [UoN]Sentinel

Three things to sum up what you said in the post: Sent pointed out a mistake in MG’s post, he made a townlist, and "I'm going to give myself an excuse not to post so I can avoid scumslipping.". Three things to counter what you said in this post: He did this so as to prevent misunderstandings about him bandwagoning, not everyone thinks townlists are bad, and you made an excuse post yourself:
+ Show Spoiler +
On April 22 2012 06:57 ghost_403 wrote:
All right, /confrim.

Sorry I've been gone for the last day. The time I can spend in the thread is going to be limited for the next couple of days. After the 25th, I should be back to full steam.

Now to find some scum. Only got 12 pages to go through. Shouldn't be too hard.



Playing Protoss = Opponent owned
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
May 01 2012 04:17 GMT
#1970
Still waiting on the ghost case........
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
BroodKingEXE
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States829 Posts
May 01 2012 04:18 GMT
#1971
Forgive me for the horrendous formatting. I like trying to keep the posting compact while having quotes.
Playing Protoss = Opponent owned
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
May 01 2012 04:22 GMT
#1972
Ninja'd btw, reading now.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
BroodKingEXE
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States829 Posts
May 01 2012 04:22 GMT
#1973
Janaan, I am wondering what your scum reads are now that MG is dead.
Playing Protoss = Opponent owned
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
May 01 2012 04:24 GMT
#1974
thank god theres discussion going on now
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
May 01 2012 04:26 GMT
#1975
Also not to mention his "big post" wasn't even that big. He says he doesn't like making big posts (which in my mind says he doesn't like making CASES), then next post he makes a "big post". Probably because he was pressured to do it though.
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
May 01 2012 04:28 GMT
#1976
PS I love how none of the accused have responded
BroodKingEXE
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States829 Posts
May 01 2012 04:28 GMT
#1977
I'm still having trouble with a Otto Ghost combo. As Otto made an accusation (no matter how misguided), am I just being overanalytical?
Playing Protoss = Opponent owned
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
May 01 2012 04:30 GMT
#1978
There is such a thing as bussing. I don't think otto intended to get ghost lynched. He just wanted to give towncred once otto dies. That's my take anyways.
Janaan
Profile Joined June 2011
United States381 Posts
May 01 2012 04:48 GMT
#1979
On May 01 2012 13:22 BroodKingEXE wrote:
Janaan, I am wondering what your scum reads are now that MG is dead.

Ottoxlol obviously is still scum to me

I've been taking a good look at BM, I don't think there's much that I can say that hasn't already been said. He looks pretty scummy, especially after looking at his Death Factory filter.

I actually wasn't sure about you until recently, BroodKing, but you're looking more town by the minute.

I was pretty sure that someone I had previously marked as a townie read probably was scum, I just wasn't sure who. The cases on Ghost make him look like a fairly likely candidate.
BroodKingEXE
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States829 Posts
May 01 2012 05:05 GMT
#1980
@johnny I've been thinking about it and I think we should lynch Otto. The past few lynches had involved a lot of commotion around lynching time. The rush of trying to agree on a vote caused small suspicions to transform into votes. I don't want that to happen with Ghost, people should have time to take in this new info.
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