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Mattchew
United States5684 Posts
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Mattchew
United States5684 Posts
On May 01 2012 23:28 johnnywup wrote: Why does option 1 have to have BM not being Goon? He could still be goon with a bus because the scum team would basically be forfeiting. We are lynching BM after Risen if Ottox flips scum. No scum team would bus and have their goon be able to be roleblocked | ||
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ghost_403
United States1825 Posts
For reference, the case by johnnywup and the case by BroodKingEXE. Johnny's case against me boils down to four points.
All of these points are easily addressed.
For BK's post,
I don't know what's going on in this post.
BK's case against me is a lot of incoherent ramblings (sorry, BK), so I find it difficult to respond to it. If he or anyone else feels I answered it inadequately, feel free to speak up. | ||
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ghost_403
United States1825 Posts
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Janaan
United States381 Posts
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BroodKingEXE
United States829 Posts
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BroodKingEXE
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ghost_403
United States1825 Posts
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[UoN]Sentinel
United States11320 Posts
What's that spreadsheet you're talking about? May I see it? | ||
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Mattchew
United States5684 Posts
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Mattchew
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[UoN]Sentinel
United States11320 Posts
Three things to sum up what you said in the post: Sent pointed out a mistake in MG’s post, he made a townlist, and "I'm going to give myself an excuse not to post so I can avoid scumslipping.". Three things to counter what you said in this post: He did this so as to prevent misunderstandings about him bandwagoning, not everyone thinks townlists are bad, and you made an excuse post yourself: + Show Spoiler + On April 22 2012 06:57 ghost_403 wrote: All right, /confrim. Sorry I've been gone for the last day. The time I can spend in the thread is going to be limited for the next couple of days. After the 25th, I should be back to full steam. Now to find some scum. Only got 12 pages to go through. Shouldn't be too hard. [/quote] Also, Brood's case gives me too much credit. I don't even know why we're talking about what I was doing Day 1. In all fairness, though, ghost said some stupid stuff, but so did gonzaw. Remember him? The townie guy who wrote that big-ass case on me and I couldn't defend myself against him? That guy. | ||
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[UoN]Sentinel
United States11320 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/CiiiG.jpg) <- even list || adjusted to relative positions -> ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/CzeuV.jpg) Notes about the chart: So basically I ordered this chart on this: If I was a vig with an infinite number of bullets, I'd start at #9 and shoot my way up until I found my 3 scum. Otto we're all lynching and I think he's got the closest to 100% chance of being scum. Bill's next on the list as potential and pretty fucking scummy, but he's not quite as confirmed as Otto is. He's still a pretty close second. Next is 6 and 7. I had a bit of trouble determining this layout. There's only three scums left, and I have a feeling it's BM, Ottoxlol, and one of these two. I would say that I'd have to put Risen as #7, although this is mostly because of the clusterfuck that got Zephirdd lynched. He's rising, and for all intents and purposes we can consider them tied for sixth. Then comes the line of purgatory and the people who I think are townies. This list is semi-arbitrary and I'm 99.5% sure all five of these guys are towns. However, we all make mistakes, and if by some happenstance two of the 6-9 players have been playing horribad town, which does happen, I've done it to some extent, then this is my order of suspicion. Paqman I couldn't find anything in his filter and I don't remember anyone making a good case against, this is why I give him #1. Closely following are the other four in the order of amount of fire each one has taken over the course of the game. Questions / possible rearrangements? Speak up now while I have the file open and we can save some time. | ||
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Mattchew
United States5684 Posts
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Ottoxlol
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Bill Murray
United States9292 Posts
On May 01 2012 23:28 Mattchew wrote: Post 2000, and BM is still basically all like That's not true WHATSOEVER, and it a blatant misrepresentation of what is going on. If you weren't trolling so much this game, and obv town, I would lynch you over policy for tunneling. Ask me about anything that has happened this game, Matt | ||
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Bill Murray
United States9292 Posts
On May 01 2012 17:56 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: I have no problem with the ghost case, I'm just having a hard time wrapping my head around the idea he's scum. Otherwise, I can take care of BM tonight. We'll know if he's a goon or not by tomorrow and then we can go from there. There is no point in you jailing at all. You're going to die tonight. | ||
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ghost_403
United States1825 Posts
 My top two town reads are Sentinel and Mattchew. After I FoS'd him Day 1, he really turned his game around. Now, with his claim and lack of counterclaim, I view him as confirmed town. Mattchew's next, since he's been more or less behind me for quite some time now. The thing I find most scummy about him is he's not dead yet. ghost stops to ponder... Paqman reads null for me at the moment. I have been behind on keeping up on the game for a couple of days now, so I don't have an intelligent opinion on him. Skimming through his filter, I don't see anything too scummy, but tomorrow I'll post some deeper thoughts. Janaan is also null for me, but I always misread Janaan. BroodKing has struck me as slightly not town, but in a noobie sort of way, so I'll give him a pass. Bill Murray is insane, but I don't like how he doesn't interact with the town even when called out. But, like I've said a couple of times, BM is nuts, so I would hesitate to push a lynch on him. Risen has done the most scummy things in this game by a wide margin. Just a few of the things I don't like about him include his "say I'll vote someone then don't and pretend like I didn't" and screwing up the Ottoxlol lynch on Day 2. After that, he pretty much dropped out of the game. I don't like his play, and wouldn't hesitate to lynch him. Johnnywup has not done the most scummy things in this game. That's because he's not done a lot. One incident that sticks out to me in particular is how much he's flipflopped on the Ottoxlol lynch. He's okay with it, he's against it, nevermind let's do it. Take a look at the last couple of pages of his filter. He's all over the place. I don't know if that's par for the course for him, or this is his way of playing scum. After Ottoxlol's flip, I'm going to take a hard look at him and start figuring out exactly which role he rolled. And Ottoxlol is scum. | ||
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BroodKingEXE
United States829 Posts
On May 02 2012 02:25 ghost_403 wrote: @BK: In my spreadsheet, I have a column marked "age", where I indicate the relative experience of each player. I had VE marked down as veteran, but after the last three games I've played with him, I think I'm going to move him into the insane category. So, this time I did not, but next time I probably will. That guy is nuts. I find it hard to believe that his increased insanity made you want to lynch him more. You said yourself that you don't view insane people as scummy. @UoN I'm not crediting you at all, I just think that he tunneled you hard. You were lurking in the beggining, but is lurking something that we should lynch for? NO! We should lynch for scummy posting. I fine with people looking at lurkers to find scummy posts (lurking isn't a townie action, so I look at them first). Did his case point out scummy posting? I don't see anywhere where he points that out. I feel Ghost is a scum that saw an easy target (a lurker that posted like one) and pointed him out. The problem is that he never went beyond that, even to the point of putting his vote on you. In other words, he never proved you were scum out of any of the other lurkers at the time. | ||
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Bill Murray
United States9292 Posts
I'm vig | ||
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