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TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8309 Posts
July 19 2013 22:28 GMT
#1861
On July 20 2013 07:11 Jacmert wrote:
Wow, lower bracket has 3 EG players out of the 4 brackets. Oh no, and HuK goes against Stardust :S Stardust's PvP is pretty strong too, I think. He beat Naniwa in the last DH iirc.

EDIT: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2013_DreamHack_Open/Valencia


I hear ya buddy, but HuK's PvP has always been his iconic matchup. He hasn't looked as strong in it in HoTS as 2011, or early 2012 HuK, but it's a hell of a lot better than his PvZ I'd say. It's still a long shot, but Stardust is one of the more beatable opponents there, and if he beats stardust there's a pretty good chance he can take down Morrow or Elfi (even though Elfi is one of the euro-tosses who has historically always had HuK's number, almost as much as Hasuobs).
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
July 19 2013 22:30 GMT
#1862
MorroW is the Valencia version of SjoW.
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
Foudzing
Profile Joined December 2011
France181 Posts
July 19 2013 22:31 GMT
#1863
Hyun > TheSTC
Lucifron > Center
Dayshi > Yugioh
Goswser > Harstem

Elfi > Morrow
Stardust > Huk
JYP > Sonder
Jaedong > Vortix

Hyun >Lucifron
Dayshi > Goswser

Stardust > Elfi
JYP > Jaedong

Dayshi > Hyun
Stardust > JYP

Stardust > Dayshi

Soulless Toss wins again!
Bomber and MKP Forever <3 | Dayshi | Maru | Feast | Symbol | ForGG | Bly | Dream Millenium Fighting!
rshawer
Profile Joined December 2012
178 Posts
July 19 2013 22:31 GMT
#1864
Stardust is looking great right now. He will probably beat huk and elfi, and his only challenge is hyun and jaedong who he will probably face in the semis and finals. Those two are zergs and we all know who Stardust's PvZ goes
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8309 Posts
July 19 2013 22:33 GMT
#1865
On July 20 2013 07:31 rshawer wrote:
Stardust is looking great right now. He will probably beat huk and elfi, and his only challenge is hyun and jaedong who he will probably face in the semis and finals. Those two are zergs and we all know who Stardust's PvZ goes


I'm thinking it'll be JYP rather than Jaedong. JvP vs JYPvZ sounds somewhat one sided, even if JYP isn't as good vs Z as he was in WoL
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
shin_toss
Profile Joined May 2010
Philippines2589 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-19 22:37:08
July 19 2013 22:36 GMT
#1866
I don't get the format. Why are some players in 2 Group stages. Some of there are only in one?

edit: nvm, I get it lol
AKMU / IU
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
July 19 2013 22:38 GMT
#1867
On July 20 2013 07:30 Boucot wrote:
MorroW is the Valencia version of SjoW.


The ICA BROTHERS
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Sevre
Profile Joined June 2013
Ireland619 Posts
July 19 2013 22:40 GMT
#1868
On July 20 2013 07:36 shin_toss wrote:
I don't get the format. Why are some players in 2 Group stages. Some of there are only in one?


Not sure what you mean by that but I'll take a stab and say it's because there are 3 Group Stages, and the invited players i.e. Jaedong, StarDust etc. were seeded into Group Stage no.2 while Group Stage no.1 was for players who had to qualify the old fashioned way through open brackets, and Group Stage no.3 was the Round of 32 featuring the top two from each group of the second stage, consisting of the invites and the best of the open brackets.
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32748 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-19 22:49:14
July 19 2013 22:42 GMT
#1869
Aligulac Ro16 predictions
+ Show Spoiler +
      (1926) HyuN  0-0  TheStC (1511)    
-----------------------------------------
45.94% 2-0 0-2 10.38%
29.60% 2-1 1-2 14.07%
-----------------------------------------
75.55% 24.45%

Median outcome: HyuN 2-1 TheStC
Estimated by Aligulac. Modify.
      (1420) Center  0-0  LucifroN (1889)    
---------------------------------------------
9.16% 2-0 0-2 48.64%
12.77% 2-1 1-2 29.43%
---------------------------------------------
21.93% 78.07%

Median outcome: Center 1-2 LucifroN
Estimated by Aligulac. Modify.
    (1526) YugiOh  0-0  Dayshi (1632)    
-----------------------------------------
20.53% 2-0 0-2 29.91%
22.45% 2-1 1-2 27.11%
-----------------------------------------
42.98% 57.02%

Median outcome: YugiOh 1-2 Dayshi
Estimated by Aligulac. Modify.
    (1349) Harstem  0-0  goswser (1326)    
-------------------------------------------
26.00% 2-0 0-2 24.02%
25.49% 2-1 1-2 24.49%
-------------------------------------------
51.49% 48.51%

Median outcome: Harstem 2-1 goswser
Estimated by Aligulac. Modify.
    (1302) MorroW  0-0  elfi (1456)      
-----------------------------------------
18.61% 2-0 0-2 32.33%
21.17% 2-1 1-2 27.89%
-----------------------------------------
39.78% 60.22%

Median outcome: MorroW 1-2 elfi
Estimated by Aligulac. Modify.
    (1600) StarDust  0-0  HuK (1303)         
---------------------------------------------
39.66% 2-0 0-2 13.71%
29.37% 2-1 1-2 17.27%
---------------------------------------------
69.03% 30.97%

Median outcome: StarDust 2-1 HuK
Estimated by Aligulac. Modify.
    (1352) Sonder  0-0  JYP (1379)       
-----------------------------------------
23.83% 2-0 0-2 26.20%
24.40% 2-1 1-2 25.58%
-----------------------------------------
48.23% 51.77%

Median outcome: Sonder 1-2 JYP
Estimated by Aligulac. Modify.
     (1615) VortiX  0-0  Jaedong (1861)    
-------------------------------------------
15.32% 2-0 0-2 37.03%
18.65% 2-1 1-2 28.99%
-------------------------------------------
33.98% 66.02%

Median outcome: VortiX 1-2 Jaedong
Estimated by Aligulac. Modify.


My predictions
HyuN 2-1 TheStC
Center 1-2 LucifroN
Dayshi 2-1 YugiOh
Harstem 2-1 Goswser
MorroW 1-2 elfi
HuK 0-2 StarDust
Sonder 1-2 JYP
Jaedong 2-1 VortiX
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Elite_
Profile Joined June 2012
United States4259 Posts
July 19 2013 22:46 GMT
#1870
I just realized if StarDust and Jaedong make it to the Ro4 two of the Ro8 finishers will make it to DreamHack Winter.
Kal_rA
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2925 Posts
July 19 2013 22:47 GMT
#1871
Lots of tosses on JD's side of the bracket :/ leggo Morrow and Sonder?

Actually eff that. JD go crush those Ps and redefine your ZvP please.
Jaedong.
ThePhan2m
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Norway2751 Posts
July 19 2013 22:55 GMT
#1872
On July 20 2013 07:46 Elite_ wrote:
I just realized if StarDust and Jaedong make it to the Ro4 two of the Ro8 finishers will make it to DreamHack Winter.

I saw that too, but who? how will it be decided?
Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5600 Posts
July 19 2013 22:55 GMT
#1873
On July 20 2013 07:14 Xoronius wrote:
This actually looks pretty decent. Probably no vP for Luci until the finals, Morrow and Protoss for elfi. If Vortix now stomps Jaedong into the ground, I´d still be happy with this tournament, despite everytjhing bad happening today.

Sadly for you that won't happen in a trillion years.
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
July 19 2013 22:58 GMT
#1874
On July 20 2013 07:55 Elroi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2013 07:14 Xoronius wrote:
This actually looks pretty decent. Probably no vP for Luci until the finals, Morrow and Protoss for elfi. If Vortix now stomps Jaedong into the ground, I´d still be happy with this tournament, despite everytjhing bad happening today.

Sadly for you that won't happen in a trillion years.


So you're telling him there is a chance /Lloyd
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
ThePhan2m
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Norway2751 Posts
July 19 2013 22:59 GMT
#1875
On July 20 2013 07:42 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Aligulac Ro16 predictions
+ Show Spoiler +
      (1926) HyuN  0-0  TheStC (1511)    
-----------------------------------------
45.94% 2-0 0-2 10.38%
29.60% 2-1 1-2 14.07%
-----------------------------------------
75.55% 24.45%

Median outcome: HyuN 2-1 TheStC
Estimated by Aligulac. Modify.
      (1420) Center  0-0  LucifroN (1889)    
---------------------------------------------
9.16% 2-0 0-2 48.64%
12.77% 2-1 1-2 29.43%
---------------------------------------------
21.93% 78.07%

Median outcome: Center 1-2 LucifroN
Estimated by Aligulac. Modify.
    (1526) YugiOh  0-0  Dayshi (1632)    
-----------------------------------------
20.53% 2-0 0-2 29.91%
22.45% 2-1 1-2 27.11%
-----------------------------------------
42.98% 57.02%

Median outcome: YugiOh 1-2 Dayshi
Estimated by Aligulac. Modify.
    (1349) Harstem  0-0  goswser (1326)    
-------------------------------------------
26.00% 2-0 0-2 24.02%
25.49% 2-1 1-2 24.49%
-------------------------------------------
51.49% 48.51%

Median outcome: Harstem 2-1 goswser
Estimated by Aligulac. Modify.
    (1302) MorroW  0-0  elfi (1456)      
-----------------------------------------
18.61% 2-0 0-2 32.33%
21.17% 2-1 1-2 27.89%
-----------------------------------------
39.78% 60.22%

Median outcome: MorroW 1-2 elfi
Estimated by Aligulac. Modify.
    (1600) StarDust  0-0  HuK (1303)         
---------------------------------------------
39.66% 2-0 0-2 13.71%
29.37% 2-1 1-2 17.27%
---------------------------------------------
69.03% 30.97%

Median outcome: StarDust 2-1 HuK
Estimated by Aligulac. Modify.
    (1352) Sonder  0-0  JYP (1379)       
-----------------------------------------
23.83% 2-0 0-2 26.20%
24.40% 2-1 1-2 25.58%
-----------------------------------------
48.23% 51.77%

Median outcome: Sonder 1-2 JYP
Estimated by Aligulac. Modify.
     (1615) VortiX  0-0  Jaedong (1861)    
-------------------------------------------
15.32% 2-0 0-2 37.03%
18.65% 2-1 1-2 28.99%
-------------------------------------------
33.98% 66.02%

Median outcome: VortiX 1-2 Jaedong
Estimated by Aligulac. Modify.


My predictions
HyuN 2-1 TheStC
Center 1-2 LucifroN
Dayshi 2-1 YugiOh
Harstem 2-1 Goswser
MorroW 1-2 elfi
HuK 0-2 StarDust
Sonder 1-2 JYP
Jaedong 2-1 VortiX


You have your hopes up man
My predictions would be
HyuN 2-0 TheStC
Center 2-1 LucifroN
Dayshi 0-2 YugiOh
Harstem 0-2 Goswser
MorroW 1-2 elfi
HuK 1-2 StarDust
Sonder 0-2 JYP
Jaedong 2-0 VortiX
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
July 19 2013 22:59 GMT
#1876
On July 20 2013 07:55 ThePhan2m wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2013 07:46 Elite_ wrote:
I just realized if StarDust and Jaedong make it to the Ro4 two of the Ro8 finishers will make it to DreamHack Winter.

I saw that too, but who? how will it be decided?

Consolation bracket, like in Jönköping.
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
Elite_
Profile Joined June 2012
United States4259 Posts
July 19 2013 23:00 GMT
#1877
On July 20 2013 07:55 ThePhan2m wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2013 07:46 Elite_ wrote:
I just realized if StarDust and Jaedong make it to the Ro4 two of the Ro8 finishers will make it to DreamHack Winter.

I saw that too, but who? how will it be decided?

If they do it like DreamHack Summer did, say Ro8 results are HyuN > Center, YugiOh > Goswser, StarDust > MorroW, Jaedong > JYP, it will be Center vs. Goswser and MorroW vs. JYP for spots at DreamHack Winter. If JYP > Jaedong however, I have no idea because Jaedong is already qualified and they'll have three players left over.
MrMotionPicture
Profile Joined May 2010
United States4327 Posts
July 19 2013 23:12 GMT
#1878
Vortix Lucifron finals would be the best
"Elvis Presley" | Ret was looking at my post in the GSL video by Artosis. | MMA told me I look like Juanfran while we shared an elevator with Scarlett
Jensbond
Profile Joined November 2012
Sweden54 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-19 23:19:55
July 19 2013 23:15 GMT
#1879
http://gyazo.com/c29209a190bc867e7aa522427f9abd7f

Can someone tell me what is going on in this group??

Both BlinG and Dayshi went on to groupstage #3 but NaRa didint even though he won/lost the exact number of matches as the other 2.

ALL THREE PLAYERS HAS 2-1!!!

Shouldent have this resulted in a 3 way tie?

This seems to be a case of Korean Discrimination once agian.
First they only allow America and Europe to play tournaments.
And now one of the last EU tournaments that acually allow Koreans, they show them that they arent welcome to play. I can clearly see how casters dont get exited when Koreans wins a game but they nerdgasm when a EU or especially a NA wins.

I fucking hate it and no1 stands up to this kind of racism! Soon people will be allowed to shoot the pro Koreans because they are too many and we will accept it.
Legalize young players IEM! Accept Maru!
Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
July 19 2013 23:18 GMT
#1880
On July 20 2013 08:15 Jensbond wrote:
http://gyazo.com/c29209a190bc867e7aa522427f9abd7f

Can someone tell me what is going on in this group??

Both BlinG and Dayshi went on to groupstage #3 but NaRa didint even though he won/lost the exact number of matches as the other 2.

Shouldent have this resulted in a 3 way tie?

This seems to be a case of Korean Discrimination once agian. I fucking hate it and no1 stands up to this kind of racism! Soon people will be allowed to shoot the pro Koreans because they are too many and we will accept it.

You don't know how to count. Stop embarassing yourself.
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