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On October 08 2012 09:11 Coagulation wrote:
Like honestly Its going on night 3. IF BC doesnt die hes scum. Theres no way he would be alive still if hes town.
Thats pretty much gonna be my fucking lynch campaign in a nutshell.
So we should lynch you, me, VE, and sloosh as we are all the "biggest" names left and alive by day 3. Hey guys Coag solved the thread, I found the remaining scum team right here.
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you know damn well if town BC is alive end game theres something wrong.
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On October 08 2012 09:20 Coagulation wrote:
you know damn well if town BC is alive end game theres something wrong.
Sure, but is this the end game? Its day 3 dude with town doing extremely well. Hell, mafia has already tried to off me once. Should be pretty clear I'm not scum.
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On October 02 2012 12:21 BlackMamba24 wrote:
Day 1 Vote Count
Shady Sands (7): Marvellosity, Coagulation, kushm4sta, Risen, iamperfection, Mementoss, risk.nuke, austinmcc, ShiaoPi, kushm4sta, BroodKingEXE, Node, kingjames01
kingjames01 (2): keirathi, mkfuba07, kreb, marvellosity, VisceraEyes, Mattchew, kushm4sta, austinmcc, Z-Boson
kushm4sta (1): Node, Mementoss, annul
VisceraEyes (1): Talismania, Z-Boson
Mementoss (0): kingjames01
austinmcc (3): kreb, mkfuba07, BloodyC0bbler
risk.nuke (1): Sharrant
Node (7): Marvellosity, VisceraEyes, austinmcc, kushm4sta, Z-Boson, iamperfection, BroodKingEXE, kingjames01
The following players have not voted: AdmiralAardvark, SlOosh, Shady Sands,
Friendly reminder to use the Voting Thread to have your vote counted.
It's a little under 1 hour till deadline.
Time for some speculation.
As we know are good friend hapa is about to flip scum. Which of course means node was scum.
Now we know people can have irl reasons for replacing but judging by the last post of node im more inclined to believe it was something more of a rage quit. I think this was caused by him seeing mafia members being involved with the sudden wagon that happened on day 1. I got a sense of frustration and the fact that he quit despite being in arguably a good position after the marv flip i think their may have been some infighting within the mafia that caused him to get fed up.
I think their is probably another scum on the node wagon and it brings me back to ViceraEyes
On October 04 2012 05:02 VisceraEyes wrote:
Node is almost certainly not the scum. There was a very real possibility that he would have been lynched and annul was right, a bus in that situation would have been pretty suboptimal.
Marv is definitely the scums. Whoever he never mentions in the game I'd probably have a hard look at. Otherwise I haven't reread the game (as I said I would :<) so I'm crippled until I do.
BC what do you think of Mattchew?
I stated earlier that i thought it was bad reasoning to suspect that a marv flip would mean that node isn't scum> I also think VE of all people should know this. From my observations of marvs play through games he states the truth a lot as both scum and town. Their is really no differences i can see between tone and i have seen him bus before. I think Ve used this bad reasoning to try and get the attention of his scum buddy.
VE has not been exhausting like he said he was going to be.
VE has not been as active as i know he can be.
VE will be the person i will be pushing to lynch during the next cycle if i'm alive.
also ve can you please explain what you meant with this post.
On October 06 2012 01:39 VisceraEyes wrote:
Obligatory night-post. Twilight thoughts imminent.
I took this to mean that you were going to post before the end of the night some big post. You did not. Did i read this post wrong?
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bc is scum. bc lied about getting shot. zboson is also scum. ve is also scum.
these are my current thoughts.
##unfos coag
Case later.
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Night 3
Breaking news tonight coming out from Liquid City: Prominent business owner and community figurehead Hapahauli was found dead today after being brutally beaten in his home in the late afternoon. Sources close to the scene of the crime witnessed a small group of people enter his home and kill the man while he was eating dinner.
The head of the LCPD investigation unit issued this statement concerning the crime and Mr. Hapahauli himself:
Mr. Hapahauli was indeed killed by a group of local Liquidites. Upon further investigation of his household, he was found to have connections to the now passed mafia boss, Don Marvellosity. It is likely that these citizens took it upon themselves to dish out vigilante justice in light of these recent mafia related killings. We at the LCPD urge citizens to NOT become vigilantes, but instead report any suspicious activity to your local police department.
It is indeed shocking to learn that someone of Hapahauli's status and prominence in the community was involved in clandestine crime. Once again, we here at Liquid City News urge citizens to take extreme caution while the police department investigates this crime family.
Hapahauli, the Mafia Enforcer, was lynched!
Flip:
+ Show Spoiler +You are the Enforcer. Your job is to carry out hits for the mafia. You have no additional powers.
Night 3 has begun.
You have 24 hours to send in all night actions to this account.
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On October 08 2012 14:11 BroodKingEXE wrote:
Mattchew didnt vote?
Seems so. I guess we can expect a modkill.
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On October 08 2012 16:41 Kreb wrote:Seems so. I guess we can expect a modkill.
Fuck. Fuckity fuck fuck a duck. Having him no flip is going to be awful.
Also, what the hell happened, I leave and everyone comes out of the woodwork, its not like I bite guys.
BC, sorry to hear about your gandma, I'm glad things are better. (If you are sucm lying about this I hope you get gangrene and lose at least one toe).
So, it seems to me the scummiest players are (in no real order) Risk, Matt (!!!!!flippingnoflip!!!!!), VE, Coag and Kier.
BC gets a chance to redeem himself because of his family emergency. RL does happen and I'm okay seeing what he can provide us. Trying to ignore the scum WIFOM bombs on his 3rd party status. I wouldn't mind a lynch on him eventually though if it seems like scum are eliminated. They have as much reason to want 3rd party dead as we do and, I assume based on what they said, he is bullet proof.
I'd love some input from everyone in the general theme of the Talis plan. Top three scum reads one sentence description on the reasons. Commit yourselves.
hapa: saving this for the postgame but I agree with what Risk said. You aren't playing to your wincon, you are playing to be an ass.
Risk, I've waited a full cycle. If you don't provide both cases and reads in this night cylce you will have my vote as soon as the next day cycle begins.
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I've got a what I would call pretty strong town read on BC so almost no chance I'll be supporting any case on him. And its not because of his pretty contributory posts, which I dont doubt he'd be able to do as scum too.
Why then? Because of this:
+ Show Spoiler +On October 03 2012 07:15 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2012 04:46 marvellosity wrote:On October 03 2012 04:41 Kreb wrote:On October 03 2012 04:28 thrawn2112 wrote:
Kreb , are you saying that because marv and whoever else pushed a node lynch away from the shady lynch that means you're suspicious of them? Shady flipped green so I don't see how that argument makes sense. You say the node lynch was unnatural and possibly pushed by scum which if true would mean that node is green and shady is red.... but shady is green so I'm not understanding your logic. Well, theres is still the possibility of it being an austin-distraction. Or just as a general distraction from, well, any mafia. Theres also the purpose of just pushing for different townies left and right because it both creates confusion and probably makes it easier to blend in (if theres votes all over the place, everything is "ok", so mafia can pick any stance they want and seem genuine with it). I still dont see Node as scummy at all from his posting, and the way that wagon happened makes him look on the townish side. You're not making sense. The Node push makes no sense from a mafia distraction point of view because Shady was a townie heading inexorably for the lynch. It's in these situations mafia are usually happy to sit back as town happily hops on to the townie wagon. On Node: tell me, does his posting look like he cares for town? iamperfection pointed it out perfectly earlier: When Node was at great risk of being lynched, did he come in to drop reads and shit? No, he came in to call town stupid, and then promptly left again without making any reads or anything. How are you reading this as townie? You also, presumably from your attitude, find his defence of Shady townie. How? Want to talk about your connection stuff a little. You don't even realise how strongly you're doing it, or how it's affecting how you think. We have: On October 02 2012 08:23 Kreb wrote:
Anyway, time to put down my vote. Disregarding the first trio (kush/kj/shady) which Ive said Im not feeling too good about.
-snip-
Austin on the other hand indeed had a pretty bad reason to vote for KJ. And his obsession with the spy comment seem a bit..... out of place. Cant say Im feeling super convinced about this either considering how early it is into the game and the length of peoples filters, but meh, gotta place my vote somewhere.
As such: ##Vote austinmcc
You place your vote on him and you're not sure at all. Your very next post goes into theories about the Node wagon and how it looked and how it makes austin look much worse (which I think I've helped establish that it doesn't really). So you, yourself, never actually had strong feelings on austin if the quote above is true, until you started ladeling Node/austin/me/VE/wagon stuff on top of it. This stands out to me for one major reason. It makes perfect sense for mafia to push node as a distraction case regardless of the fact shady flipped green. Ask VE or Node if they remember a game in the high 30's or low 40s run by FW with the weird mason mechanic (each player could mason any two players they chose but only two players) where on day 3 or 4 as mafia my entire team sat firmly on two sides of a townie vs townie lynch pushing each. Also pushing node as a "distraction" case would be perfect if austin is red. Why? Because it got heat off himself. However, this is me merely clearing up something I find instantly wrong and misleading. In regards to the lynch yesterday. Not sure how shady was lynched, thought we had passed that when I was active in the thread yesterday. Also not sure how the node picked up so much steam the way it did given that the main person pushing said case was under some heat from people and the votes were slowly swinging the way. Why do you ask? Because node had so very few posts and was easy to cherry pick. The case was also poor on him given the fact that well, its node. The only thing that speaks badly about his posting thus far is the lack of it. Making odd posts like he has is very typical of his play regardless of alignment, and the biggest tell is his lack of involvement in the game. Rather then making a case on his posts someone should have brought up the fact that a veteran player had made such few and weird looking posts as the main tell over his one sentence on his why he thought shady wasn't scum. I am back for most of the night so I will go through the thread to make sure I can get more info out given that I have a horrible trend of dying day 1's these days.
Context: I presented my thought in the Node wagon and the conclusions from it. Marv entered a discussion with me to discredit me/my case and to deny any support of it. He probably did a pretty good job of it actually since I wasnt really getting much support, although it was during an inactive part of the day. In comes BC and drops the fact that Marvs reasoning was flawed. Now, why the fuck would you do that as scum? Unless its some really deep plan behind it, if you're marvs scum buddy at that time you stfu and hope Marvs arguing gets support from the masses while I get discredited.
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On October 08 2012 19:15 Kreb wrote:I've got a what I would call pretty strong town read on BC so almost no chance I'll be supporting any case on him. And its not because of his pretty contributory posts, which I dont doubt he'd be able to do as scum too. Why then? Because of this: + Show Spoiler +On October 03 2012 07:15 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2012 04:46 marvellosity wrote:On October 03 2012 04:41 Kreb wrote:On October 03 2012 04:28 thrawn2112 wrote:
Kreb , are you saying that because marv and whoever else pushed a node lynch away from the shady lynch that means you're suspicious of them? Shady flipped green so I don't see how that argument makes sense. You say the node lynch was unnatural and possibly pushed by scum which if true would mean that node is green and shady is red.... but shady is green so I'm not understanding your logic. Well, theres is still the possibility of it being an austin-distraction. Or just as a general distraction from, well, any mafia. Theres also the purpose of just pushing for different townies left and right because it both creates confusion and probably makes it easier to blend in (if theres votes all over the place, everything is "ok", so mafia can pick any stance they want and seem genuine with it). I still dont see Node as scummy at all from his posting, and the way that wagon happened makes him look on the townish side. You're not making sense. The Node push makes no sense from a mafia distraction point of view because Shady was a townie heading inexorably for the lynch. It's in these situations mafia are usually happy to sit back as town happily hops on to the townie wagon. On Node: tell me, does his posting look like he cares for town? iamperfection pointed it out perfectly earlier: When Node was at great risk of being lynched, did he come in to drop reads and shit? No, he came in to call town stupid, and then promptly left again without making any reads or anything. How are you reading this as townie? You also, presumably from your attitude, find his defence of Shady townie. How? Want to talk about your connection stuff a little. You don't even realise how strongly you're doing it, or how it's affecting how you think. We have: On October 02 2012 08:23 Kreb wrote:
Anyway, time to put down my vote. Disregarding the first trio (kush/kj/shady) which Ive said Im not feeling too good about.
-snip-
Austin on the other hand indeed had a pretty bad reason to vote for KJ. And his obsession with the spy comment seem a bit..... out of place. Cant say Im feeling super convinced about this either considering how early it is into the game and the length of peoples filters, but meh, gotta place my vote somewhere.
As such: ##Vote austinmcc
You place your vote on him and you're not sure at all. Your very next post goes into theories about the Node wagon and how it looked and how it makes austin look much worse (which I think I've helped establish that it doesn't really). So you, yourself, never actually had strong feelings on austin if the quote above is true, until you started ladeling Node/austin/me/VE/wagon stuff on top of it. This stands out to me for one major reason. It makes perfect sense for mafia to push node as a distraction case regardless of the fact shady flipped green. Ask VE or Node if they remember a game in the high 30's or low 40s run by FW with the weird mason mechanic (each player could mason any two players they chose but only two players) where on day 3 or 4 as mafia my entire team sat firmly on two sides of a townie vs townie lynch pushing each. Also pushing node as a "distraction" case would be perfect if austin is red. Why? Because it got heat off himself. However, this is me merely clearing up something I find instantly wrong and misleading. In regards to the lynch yesterday. Not sure how shady was lynched, thought we had passed that when I was active in the thread yesterday. Also not sure how the node picked up so much steam the way it did given that the main person pushing said case was under some heat from people and the votes were slowly swinging the way. Why do you ask? Because node had so very few posts and was easy to cherry pick. The case was also poor on him given the fact that well, its node. The only thing that speaks badly about his posting thus far is the lack of it. Making odd posts like he has is very typical of his play regardless of alignment, and the biggest tell is his lack of involvement in the game. Rather then making a case on his posts someone should have brought up the fact that a veteran player had made such few and weird looking posts as the main tell over his one sentence on his why he thought shady wasn't scum. I am back for most of the night so I will go through the thread to make sure I can get more info out given that I have a horrible trend of dying day 1's these days. Context: I presented my thought in the Node wagon and the conclusions from it. Marv entered a discussion with me to discredit me/my case and to deny any support of it. He probably did a pretty good job of it actually since I wasnt really getting much support, although it was during an inactive part of the day. In comes BC and drops the fact that Marvs reasoning was flawed. Now, why the fuck would you do that as scum? Unless its some really deep plan behind it, if you're marvs scum buddy at that time you stfu and hope Marvs arguing gets support from the masses while I get discredited.
yeah I would say it seems he is not allied with marv (I'm scared about two scum factions because of stupid aperture); but it seems like a Node defense. Calling it similar to mafia on two townies. Node ain't no townie. Thanks for bringing that to my attention though, I'll keep it in mind. Do you think it is more likely he is town or SK(since you are sure he isn't with Marv).? Why?
In case it wasn't clear I wouldn't vote BC next cycle without more reasoning than can be provided now. For the moment I want Risk to die first.
Also: where the hell do you live? no one is ever on when I come home from work. Except for DP.
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On October 08 2012 19:32 Promethelax wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2012 19:15 Kreb wrote:I've got a what I would call pretty strong town read on BC so almost no chance I'll be supporting any case on him. And its not because of his pretty contributory posts, which I dont doubt he'd be able to do as scum too. Why then? Because of this: + Show Spoiler +On October 03 2012 07:15 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2012 04:46 marvellosity wrote:On October 03 2012 04:41 Kreb wrote:On October 03 2012 04:28 thrawn2112 wrote:
Kreb , are you saying that because marv and whoever else pushed a node lynch away from the shady lynch that means you're suspicious of them? Shady flipped green so I don't see how that argument makes sense. You say the node lynch was unnatural and possibly pushed by scum which if true would mean that node is green and shady is red.... but shady is green so I'm not understanding your logic. Well, theres is still the possibility of it being an austin-distraction. Or just as a general distraction from, well, any mafia. Theres also the purpose of just pushing for different townies left and right because it both creates confusion and probably makes it easier to blend in (if theres votes all over the place, everything is "ok", so mafia can pick any stance they want and seem genuine with it). I still dont see Node as scummy at all from his posting, and the way that wagon happened makes him look on the townish side. You're not making sense. The Node push makes no sense from a mafia distraction point of view because Shady was a townie heading inexorably for the lynch. It's in these situations mafia are usually happy to sit back as town happily hops on to the townie wagon. On Node: tell me, does his posting look like he cares for town? iamperfection pointed it out perfectly earlier: When Node was at great risk of being lynched, did he come in to drop reads and shit? No, he came in to call town stupid, and then promptly left again without making any reads or anything. How are you reading this as townie? You also, presumably from your attitude, find his defence of Shady townie. How? Want to talk about your connection stuff a little. You don't even realise how strongly you're doing it, or how it's affecting how you think. We have: On October 02 2012 08:23 Kreb wrote:
Anyway, time to put down my vote. Disregarding the first trio (kush/kj/shady) which Ive said Im not feeling too good about.
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Austin on the other hand indeed had a pretty bad reason to vote for KJ. And his obsession with the spy comment seem a bit..... out of place. Cant say Im feeling super convinced about this either considering how early it is into the game and the length of peoples filters, but meh, gotta place my vote somewhere.
As such: ##Vote austinmcc
You place your vote on him and you're not sure at all. Your very next post goes into theories about the Node wagon and how it looked and how it makes austin look much worse (which I think I've helped establish that it doesn't really). So you, yourself, never actually had strong feelings on austin if the quote above is true, until you started ladeling Node/austin/me/VE/wagon stuff on top of it. This stands out to me for one major reason. It makes perfect sense for mafia to push node as a distraction case regardless of the fact shady flipped green. Ask VE or Node if they remember a game in the high 30's or low 40s run by FW with the weird mason mechanic (each player could mason any two players they chose but only two players) where on day 3 or 4 as mafia my entire team sat firmly on two sides of a townie vs townie lynch pushing each. Also pushing node as a "distraction" case would be perfect if austin is red. Why? Because it got heat off himself. However, this is me merely clearing up something I find instantly wrong and misleading. In regards to the lynch yesterday. Not sure how shady was lynched, thought we had passed that when I was active in the thread yesterday. Also not sure how the node picked up so much steam the way it did given that the main person pushing said case was under some heat from people and the votes were slowly swinging the way. Why do you ask? Because node had so very few posts and was easy to cherry pick. The case was also poor on him given the fact that well, its node. The only thing that speaks badly about his posting thus far is the lack of it. Making odd posts like he has is very typical of his play regardless of alignment, and the biggest tell is his lack of involvement in the game. Rather then making a case on his posts someone should have brought up the fact that a veteran player had made such few and weird looking posts as the main tell over his one sentence on his why he thought shady wasn't scum. I am back for most of the night so I will go through the thread to make sure I can get more info out given that I have a horrible trend of dying day 1's these days. Context: I presented my thought in the Node wagon and the conclusions from it. Marv entered a discussion with me to discredit me/my case and to deny any support of it. He probably did a pretty good job of it actually since I wasnt really getting much support, although it was during an inactive part of the day. In comes BC and drops the fact that Marvs reasoning was flawed. Now, why the fuck would you do that as scum? Unless its some really deep plan behind it, if you're marvs scum buddy at that time you stfu and hope Marvs arguing gets support from the masses while I get discredited. yeah I would say it seems he is not allied with marv (I'm scared about two scum factions because of stupid aperture); but it seems like a Node defense. Calling it similar to mafia on two townies. Node ain't no townie. Thanks for bringing that to my attention though, I'll keep it in mind. Do you think it is more likely he is town or SK(since you are sure he isn't with Marv).? Why? In case it wasn't clear I wouldn't vote BC next cycle without more reasoning than can be provided now. For the moment I want Risk to die first. Also: where the hell do you live? no one is ever on when I come home from work. Except for DP.
Well, trying to pinpoint the SK with 16ppl left seems a bit futile. We dont even know the SKs wincon. If we knew it we might have had a chance to see whos playing towards that wincon, but as of now Im just disregarding the SK in any discussion of peoples alignments.
And I live in Sweden (posting and reading a bit from work though).
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On October 08 2012 19:56 Kreb wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2012 19:32 Promethelax wrote:On October 08 2012 19:15 Kreb wrote:I've got a what I would call pretty strong town read on BC so almost no chance I'll be supporting any case on him. And its not because of his pretty contributory posts, which I dont doubt he'd be able to do as scum too. Why then? Because of this: + Show Spoiler +On October 03 2012 07:15 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2012 04:46 marvellosity wrote:On October 03 2012 04:41 Kreb wrote:On October 03 2012 04:28 thrawn2112 wrote:
Kreb , are you saying that because marv and whoever else pushed a node lynch away from the shady lynch that means you're suspicious of them? Shady flipped green so I don't see how that argument makes sense. You say the node lynch was unnatural and possibly pushed by scum which if true would mean that node is green and shady is red.... but shady is green so I'm not understanding your logic. Well, theres is still the possibility of it being an austin-distraction. Or just as a general distraction from, well, any mafia. Theres also the purpose of just pushing for different townies left and right because it both creates confusion and probably makes it easier to blend in (if theres votes all over the place, everything is "ok", so mafia can pick any stance they want and seem genuine with it). I still dont see Node as scummy at all from his posting, and the way that wagon happened makes him look on the townish side. You're not making sense. The Node push makes no sense from a mafia distraction point of view because Shady was a townie heading inexorably for the lynch. It's in these situations mafia are usually happy to sit back as town happily hops on to the townie wagon. On Node: tell me, does his posting look like he cares for town? iamperfection pointed it out perfectly earlier: When Node was at great risk of being lynched, did he come in to drop reads and shit? No, he came in to call town stupid, and then promptly left again without making any reads or anything. How are you reading this as townie? You also, presumably from your attitude, find his defence of Shady townie. How? Want to talk about your connection stuff a little. You don't even realise how strongly you're doing it, or how it's affecting how you think. We have: On October 02 2012 08:23 Kreb wrote:
Anyway, time to put down my vote. Disregarding the first trio (kush/kj/shady) which Ive said Im not feeling too good about.
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Austin on the other hand indeed had a pretty bad reason to vote for KJ. And his obsession with the spy comment seem a bit..... out of place. Cant say Im feeling super convinced about this either considering how early it is into the game and the length of peoples filters, but meh, gotta place my vote somewhere.
As such: ##Vote austinmcc
You place your vote on him and you're not sure at all. Your very next post goes into theories about the Node wagon and how it looked and how it makes austin look much worse (which I think I've helped establish that it doesn't really). So you, yourself, never actually had strong feelings on austin if the quote above is true, until you started ladeling Node/austin/me/VE/wagon stuff on top of it. This stands out to me for one major reason. It makes perfect sense for mafia to push node as a distraction case regardless of the fact shady flipped green. Ask VE or Node if they remember a game in the high 30's or low 40s run by FW with the weird mason mechanic (each player could mason any two players they chose but only two players) where on day 3 or 4 as mafia my entire team sat firmly on two sides of a townie vs townie lynch pushing each. Also pushing node as a "distraction" case would be perfect if austin is red. Why? Because it got heat off himself. However, this is me merely clearing up something I find instantly wrong and misleading. In regards to the lynch yesterday. Not sure how shady was lynched, thought we had passed that when I was active in the thread yesterday. Also not sure how the node picked up so much steam the way it did given that the main person pushing said case was under some heat from people and the votes were slowly swinging the way. Why do you ask? Because node had so very few posts and was easy to cherry pick. The case was also poor on him given the fact that well, its node. The only thing that speaks badly about his posting thus far is the lack of it. Making odd posts like he has is very typical of his play regardless of alignment, and the biggest tell is his lack of involvement in the game. Rather then making a case on his posts someone should have brought up the fact that a veteran player had made such few and weird looking posts as the main tell over his one sentence on his why he thought shady wasn't scum. I am back for most of the night so I will go through the thread to make sure I can get more info out given that I have a horrible trend of dying day 1's these days. Context: I presented my thought in the Node wagon and the conclusions from it. Marv entered a discussion with me to discredit me/my case and to deny any support of it. He probably did a pretty good job of it actually since I wasnt really getting much support, although it was during an inactive part of the day. In comes BC and drops the fact that Marvs reasoning was flawed. Now, why the fuck would you do that as scum? Unless its some really deep plan behind it, if you're marvs scum buddy at that time you stfu and hope Marvs arguing gets support from the masses while I get discredited. yeah I would say it seems he is not allied with marv (I'm scared about two scum factions because of stupid aperture); but it seems like a Node defense. Calling it similar to mafia on two townies. Node ain't no townie. Thanks for bringing that to my attention though, I'll keep it in mind. Do you think it is more likely he is town or SK(since you are sure he isn't with Marv).? Why? In case it wasn't clear I wouldn't vote BC next cycle without more reasoning than can be provided now. For the moment I want Risk to die first. Also: where the hell do you live? no one is ever on when I come home from work. Except for DP. Well, trying to pinpoint the SK with 16ppl left seems a bit futile. We dont even know the SKs wincon. If we knew it we might have had a chance to see whos playing towards that wincon, but as of now Im just disregarding the SK in any discussion of peoples alignments. And I live in Sweden (posting and reading a bit from work though).
Fair enough, the binary town/anti-town might be just what we need.
Who do you want to lynch tomorrow? (short list is acceptable if you don't want to give one read to be WIFOM'd at should you die).
Makes sense, timezones are weird.
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Im gonna drop all my reasons to vote VE in one big post before this night so its out there should I die. Considering you all seem to be very reluctant to throw suspicions my way (awww <3) I think I might be considered a target by mafia at least. That, however, is not something I'd like to do at work though. =)
But hey, we can always hope we get another Paramedic self-kill!
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guys
I was going to do this last minute
but I cant stay up till the flip
so sub optimal play coming up
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On October 08 2012 22:55 Mementoss wrote:
guys
I was going to do this last minute
but I cant stay up till the flip
so sub optimal play coming up
nvm going to thanksgiving now. Don't have a smart phone is gg.
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On October 08 2012 19:15 Kreb wrote:I've got a what I would call pretty strong town read on BC so almost no chance I'll be supporting any case on him. And its not because of his pretty contributory posts, which I dont doubt he'd be able to do as scum too. Why then? Because of this: + Show Spoiler +On October 03 2012 07:15 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2012 04:46 marvellosity wrote:On October 03 2012 04:41 Kreb wrote:On October 03 2012 04:28 thrawn2112 wrote:
Kreb , are you saying that because marv and whoever else pushed a node lynch away from the shady lynch that means you're suspicious of them? Shady flipped green so I don't see how that argument makes sense. You say the node lynch was unnatural and possibly pushed by scum which if true would mean that node is green and shady is red.... but shady is green so I'm not understanding your logic. Well, theres is still the possibility of it being an austin-distraction. Or just as a general distraction from, well, any mafia. Theres also the purpose of just pushing for different townies left and right because it both creates confusion and probably makes it easier to blend in (if theres votes all over the place, everything is "ok", so mafia can pick any stance they want and seem genuine with it). I still dont see Node as scummy at all from his posting, and the way that wagon happened makes him look on the townish side. You're not making sense. The Node push makes no sense from a mafia distraction point of view because Shady was a townie heading inexorably for the lynch. It's in these situations mafia are usually happy to sit back as town happily hops on to the townie wagon. On Node: tell me, does his posting look like he cares for town? iamperfection pointed it out perfectly earlier: When Node was at great risk of being lynched, did he come in to drop reads and shit? No, he came in to call town stupid, and then promptly left again without making any reads or anything. How are you reading this as townie? You also, presumably from your attitude, find his defence of Shady townie. How? Want to talk about your connection stuff a little. You don't even realise how strongly you're doing it, or how it's affecting how you think. We have: On October 02 2012 08:23 Kreb wrote:
Anyway, time to put down my vote. Disregarding the first trio (kush/kj/shady) which Ive said Im not feeling too good about.
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Austin on the other hand indeed had a pretty bad reason to vote for KJ. And his obsession with the spy comment seem a bit..... out of place. Cant say Im feeling super convinced about this either considering how early it is into the game and the length of peoples filters, but meh, gotta place my vote somewhere.
As such: ##Vote austinmcc
You place your vote on him and you're not sure at all. Your very next post goes into theories about the Node wagon and how it looked and how it makes austin look much worse (which I think I've helped establish that it doesn't really). So you, yourself, never actually had strong feelings on austin if the quote above is true, until you started ladeling Node/austin/me/VE/wagon stuff on top of it. This stands out to me for one major reason. It makes perfect sense for mafia to push node as a distraction case regardless of the fact shady flipped green. Ask VE or Node if they remember a game in the high 30's or low 40s run by FW with the weird mason mechanic (each player could mason any two players they chose but only two players) where on day 3 or 4 as mafia my entire team sat firmly on two sides of a townie vs townie lynch pushing each. Also pushing node as a "distraction" case would be perfect if austin is red. Why? Because it got heat off himself. However, this is me merely clearing up something I find instantly wrong and misleading. In regards to the lynch yesterday. Not sure how shady was lynched, thought we had passed that when I was active in the thread yesterday. Also not sure how the node picked up so much steam the way it did given that the main person pushing said case was under some heat from people and the votes were slowly swinging the way. Why do you ask? Because node had so very few posts and was easy to cherry pick. The case was also poor on him given the fact that well, its node. The only thing that speaks badly about his posting thus far is the lack of it. Making odd posts like he has is very typical of his play regardless of alignment, and the biggest tell is his lack of involvement in the game. Rather then making a case on his posts someone should have brought up the fact that a veteran player had made such few and weird looking posts as the main tell over his one sentence on his why he thought shady wasn't scum. I am back for most of the night so I will go through the thread to make sure I can get more info out given that I have a horrible trend of dying day 1's these days. Context: I presented my thought in the Node wagon and the conclusions from it. Marv entered a discussion with me to discredit me/my case and to deny any support of it. He probably did a pretty good job of it actually since I wasnt really getting much support, although it was during an inactive part of the day. In comes BC and drops the fact that Marvs reasoning was flawed. Now, why the fuck would you do that as scum? Unless its some really deep plan behind it, if you're marvs scum buddy at that time you stfu and hope Marvs arguing gets support from the masses while I get discredited.
OMG scum disagreeing with each other in the thread??? That NEVER happens! /sarcasm
This is a really stupid reason to assume BC is town IMO.
The points you brought up, kreb, were not important enough for all scum to discredit in unison.
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hey guys sorry i missed the last 2 days. was away from home all weekend
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