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kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
October 08 2012 18:40 GMT
#1721
On October 09 2012 03:08 Mattchew wrote:
hey guys sorry i missed the last 2 days. was away from home all weekend

I buy it. Corroborated by the other game he's in.
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
Mementoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada2595 Posts
October 08 2012 19:04 GMT
#1722
guys i am back
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu96xMwFVXw
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
October 08 2012 19:11 GMT
#1723
On October 09 2012 04:04 Mementoss wrote:
guys i am back

What were you talking about with "suboptimal play"?
Also wtf is wrong with canadians having thanksgiving this early
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
October 08 2012 19:28 GMT
#1724
BC lied about being shot n1.
Why? Because there are only 2 medics.
There is no medic in this game other than paramedic (see role list)

d2
austin claim shot and prot
bc claim shot and prot
marv prot by risen


So this should indicate that there are 3 medics. I do not believe that is the case because 1) Any more than 2 would be pretty OP. 2) day 3.

d3
hapa prot by mkfuba
NO CLAIMS

We have no more medics.
If there was another medic, why wouldn't the person they protected claim?
D2 mkfuba protected austin.
A kp got blocked when VE was rb.
BC took the blocked kp as a opportunity to claim he was shot and protected.

OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
Mementoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada2595 Posts
October 08 2012 19:35 GMT
#1725
I am the Medical Examiner aka, I am the watcher, after clues got taken away my role was changed.

Breadcrumb, the only breadcrumb would be I changed my quote to "mommy whats a gravedigger" cause I imagined the medical examiner digging up dead people to examine them. The other would be how I exchanged words with BC after he claimed he was shot.

Okay to the more juicy stuff.

Night 1:

I watched BC, BC was visited by Node(Hapa) or the mafia vigilante. So he did not lie about the shot. However, he did lie about being medic protected.

On October 04 2012 04:42 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
That is the single most amusing outing of a scum I have seen since A RNG shot toad a few games ago. Shitty that you were punished for bad play Marv, but well, if it makes you feel any worse.... I survived your shot. Thank you magical man who saved my life, as I didn't want to die again before day 2.


On October 04 2012 04:53 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2012 04:47 Mementoss wrote:
On October 04 2012 04:42 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
That is the single most amusing outing of a scum I have seen since A RNG shot toad a few games ago. Shitty that you were punished for bad play Marv, but well, if it makes you feel any worse.... I survived your shot. Thank you magical man who saved my life, as I didn't want to die again before day 2.


Why do you think marv shot you?


I find it highly unlikely a town vig shot me over any of the other players in the game tbh. Given that I was shot and survived I assume it was the mafia and thus thanking the magical medic.



Why would town lie about this? I can't think of motivation. The only reason BC would lie about this would be because he wanted to make scum think there was a medic saving his ass. Actually, the only possible way BC is town is if he is veteran, I don't see why he would lie about this as town, and just say hai guys I was shot, but I was veteran so give me some protection tonight. However, I doubt Blackmamba would take out the veteran role after one of the vets already lost his life. Also, given the fact that Mafia didn't try to shoot him again makes me 95% sure BC is the 3rd Party Night Immue Serial Killer.

On October 04 2012 05:02 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2012 05:00 Z-BosoN wrote:
Wait, so Risen the paramedic, another medic on BC, and, incredibly, another one @ austin, who was also shot?? Do we have three medics, does everyone buy this??


Given that no one has claimed any of the shots on the dead players, (ie no one is claiming vig)

We know we have two dead vanilla's, shots on me and austin, and risen raped himself while giving us marv.

We know we have mafia, and 1 third party based on setup, so 4 kp appearing isn't that unlikely I think.


This quote also seems like he knows a bit too much, it implies that third party has some kp since no one is claiming vig.

I would 100% lynch BC tomorrow because of this lie.

That brings me to my next point. Mafia knew BC was third party after night 1.

On October 08 2012 09:08 Hapahauli wrote:
Guys guys guys.

Don't lynch BC - he's a 3rd Party Role


On October 08 2012 09:11 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2012 09:09 Coagulation wrote:
How the fuck do you know hes third party?


Show nested quote +
On October 05 2012 10:57 marvellosity wrote:
Seriously guys, BloodyC0bbler. I expect specific thanks from all of you later in the game.


It's actually really obvious.


Last minute ploys by dead mafia players to get the lynch on the third party to try and save members of their team or just to put WIFOM not to kill BC. We can use this now known knowledge to our advantage. Anyone who has been pushing BC hard after night 1 without much reason, or seems like they know too much, is scum. They are scum looking for some town cred for leading a lynch on anti town.

On October 08 2012 09:47 kushm4sta wrote:
bc is scum. bc lied about getting shot. zboson is also scum. ve is also scum.
these are my current thoughts.
##unfos coag
Case later.


This post rubbed me the wrong way. BC is scum because he lied about getting shot, yet kushm4ster has no evidence to prove BC lieing about being shot. He is using this as his only reasoning. Also Marv, hard defended this guy, almost single handedly getting a wagon off him with a meta case.

On October 01 2012 23:33 marvellosity wrote:
kush as townie:

Show nested quote +
On September 03 2012 18:47 kushm4sta wrote:
So it seems like the consensus is to lynch either cubu or kville. Anyone not feel this way?
Even if they aren't mafia they are solid policy lynches.
Now the question is which one.
Kville is the bigger lurker, but I think there is a higher possibility for cubu to actually be mafia.
Honestly cubu probably isn't mafia either, just because I think mafia would put more effort into their posts. Lynching one of these guys is better than lynching someone who is active though. So my vote is still on cubu.


Will vote for policy lynches just fine, check
Calls Cubu probably not mafia but is happy to have his vote on him, check


On October 01 2012 23:57 marvellosity wrote:
Good luck rationalising kush's play from any perspective. As in the post-game to my most recent newbie game, Hapahauli pointed out the significant difference in his town/scum play - his attitude. I'm nowhere near convinced his attitude this game is his scum attitude.



I could see kushm4sta as scum.

Night 2:

I watched sloosh and nothing happened.

I wish the night deadline was earlier so I could do this last minute and get one last watch. But hopefully this will prove to be useful. Since I was shit all game and I'm sorry lol.

But yeah look back after night 1/2 and see people that seemed to have a switch of thoughts on BC or knew too much. Because scum knew BC was 3rd party pretty early. I wish I could be more helpful but I haven't been doing enough reading into the game.

I would say lynch BC > lynch kushm4ster

TLDR;

BloodyC0bbler
kushm4stap

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu96xMwFVXw
Mementoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada2595 Posts
October 08 2012 19:37 GMT
#1726
Sorry I can't do that before deadline but I can't.

Also, don't let next day cycle be just everyone vote BC and stop talking like the last couple. I know we found 3rd party, but talk about the next scum, especially using this new info.

@kush thats what I meant by suboptimal play, it woulda been much better at deadline so I could have another watch.

Sorry for being useless this game, I wasn't really into it because of 2 games at once.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu96xMwFVXw
Mementoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada2595 Posts
October 08 2012 19:38 GMT
#1727
On October 09 2012 04:28 kushm4sta wrote:
BC lied about being shot n1.
Why? Because there are only 2 medics.
There is no medic in this game other than paramedic (see role list)

d2
austin claim shot and prot
bc claim shot and prot
marv prot by risen


So this should indicate that there are 3 medics. I do not believe that is the case because 1) Any more than 2 would be pretty OP. 2) day 3.

d3
hapa prot by mkfuba
NO CLAIMS

We have no more medics.
If there was another medic, why wouldn't the person they protected claim?
D2 mkfuba protected austin.
A kp got blocked when VE was rb.
BC took the blocked kp as a opportunity to claim he was shot and protected.



More reason to lynch this guy, he knows BC didn't lie because hes scum, but is trying to make a case against him saying he lied to grab some town cred after he flips 3rd party.

But yeah BC is SK night immune
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu96xMwFVXw
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
October 08 2012 19:38 GMT
#1728
OK so about my last post this makes sense... He didn't lie about being shot he lied about being medicd.
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
October 08 2012 19:44 GMT
#1729
Momentoss you think I'm scum because I knew something was up with BC without reasoning.
I give the reason (thankfully seconds before your claim).
Now I'm scum because I'm trying to get towncred?? huh
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
Mementoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada2595 Posts
October 08 2012 19:47 GMT
#1730
On October 09 2012 04:44 kushm4sta wrote:
Momentoss you think I'm scum because I knew something was up with BC without reasoning.
I give the reason (thankfully seconds before your claim).
Now I'm scum because I'm trying to get towncred?? huh


im not quite sure to be honest, it was just a thought. But the hard defense by marv twice in a row when I was reading more in day 1 stuck in my mind.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu96xMwFVXw
Mementoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada2595 Posts
October 08 2012 19:48 GMT
#1731
Also this was before you gave reasoning for knowing BC lied.

So, now that you gave reasoning its less of a scum read on you, but still think you may be scum.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu96xMwFVXw
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9647 Posts
October 08 2012 19:50 GMT
#1732
Why would we want to lynch the sk before scum? Wouldn't it be better to lynch scum first. Sk could hit mafia right?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
BroodKingEXE
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States829 Posts
October 08 2012 19:52 GMT
#1733
@Mementoss. If my idea of a SK is correct then he should be killing on a nightly basis. Do you have any theories behind his NKs? And why lynch him instead of scum?
Playing Protoss = Opponent owned
BroodKingEXE
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States829 Posts
October 08 2012 20:01 GMT
#1734
EBWOP: Never mind about the second question I see why.
Playing Protoss = Opponent owned
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9647 Posts
October 08 2012 20:12 GMT
#1735
On October 09 2012 05:01 BroodKingEXE wrote:
EBWOP: Never mind about the second question I see why.

i dont see why?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Mementoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada2595 Posts
October 08 2012 20:17 GMT
#1736
lynch almost 100% for sure SK/3rd party or take a chance at lynching a scum off analysis.

hmmmmmmmmmmmmm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu96xMwFVXw
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
October 08 2012 20:24 GMT
#1737
It's only almost 100% for sure for you because you know your role. We don't know if you're lying so it's the same bet for us - chance lynching a scum off analysis (that player) or chance lynching a 3rd off analysis (your play, BC's play).

That's a claim though. The whole "suboptimal play" thing lends weight to your claim for me. Although arguably I think it was better this way - assuming you're telling the truth it gives scum a chance to try and discredit you and shit, and you said you won't be around for a deadline post anyway.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
October 08 2012 20:27 GMT
#1738
lynch bc. I dont feel kush is scum.
Mementoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada2595 Posts
October 08 2012 20:27 GMT
#1739
well im assuming scum will kill me and verify my claim tonight. Unless they want me continue watching.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu96xMwFVXw
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
October 08 2012 20:27 GMT
#1740
On October 09 2012 05:27 Coagulation wrote:
lynch bc. I dont feel kush is scum.


Why. THIS. WHY? EXPLAIN YOURSELF!
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
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