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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
May 31 2012 09:17 GMT
#1681
##Unvote: Hyaach or whoever the fuck
##Vote: Kitaman27

if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5256 Posts
May 31 2012 09:23 GMT
#1682
On May 31 2012 17:04 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2012 17:00 wherebugsgo wrote:
I don't like lynching VE cause he always flips town whenever he does scummy shit.


that's horrible reasoning.

Get your ass in gear and give me an alternative, I know you can do better than this.

I'm going to bed.

sigh... you would think it's horrible reasoning, but let's review some recent history (that you might've missed!)

TL Mafia LI - VE claims DT at a very random time, is actually Mafia! are we on to something?
TL Mafia LIII - VE claims JK at a sort of random time, flips JK. Aw.
MTG Mini Mafia - VE claims Doc at very random time, flips doctor. Hrm.

Liar Game Mafia - VE gets mad at Ace/WBG, flips town.
Wheel of Mini Mafia - VE makes no cases or w.e, flips scum.

Infurtinagly enough, VE has played pretty scummily in a lot of his recent games, and often getting blue/scum (4/5 of his games). Let's review our options.

1. Kill VE
+Hit potential scum, who is very dangerous if red.
+Unravels a lot of schemes, and gives more information than probably any other lynch
+don't have to play the WIFOM game (I got rb'd again) or (see, I shot my target, but what if his scum team used a KP, and feign a doublestack on some other player?)
- lose a vig, if wrong
- lose a vet, if wrong

2. Kill Zealos
+Hit potential scum, who a decent amount of people think is scum, but is by no means an ez mode mislynch
+gives some information, as there has been people who want to lynch others over him
+Potentially have a blue VE on our side
-have to play the WIFOM game with VE

Either way, it is extremely important that we reduce scum KP asap or this game will go south, so obviously we should lynch who we think has a higher chance of flipping scum. This seems like a classic "high risk, high reward" scenario. I could see VE being vig here, but if he's scum he'd definitely claim right about now. Then again, if we're sure about Zealos, he's a better kill.

I'd like to hear Wiggles' opinion on this.
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
May 31 2012 09:42 GMT
#1683
yeah like VE has this tendency to either get a blue role or be scum. Either way he looks almost the same.

The exception I think is Liar Game.
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5256 Posts
May 31 2012 09:51 GMT
#1684
On May 31 2012 14:56 VisceraEyes wrote:
*shrug*

Kita the Iggins the Lyncher thanks you for your patronage.

VE, I thought you were suggesting that Kita was Lyncher? Your part 1 is decent, but your part 2 consists of you thinking that Kita's focusing on Lyncher = him scum. So what is it? Kita is Lyncher or scum? If you think he's Lyncher (as previously stated), then as you stated, it's sort of a joke role that isn't currently a threat to us.

You also ignore all of Kita's D2 posts, which are better than his D1 posts. I can't take your case seriously when half of yoru case is talking about the lyncher stuff, which isn't that scummy lol.

If I compare Kita's play 1-1 between storm and this, it does look different, but if I compare it 1-1 to TL Mafia L, it doesn't look that different. Sure, in that game he ran for mayor, but most of his D1 play was concerned with setup/the election, and not that much on scumhunting.

Well, going to watch TL get owned in GSTL everyone, better comment whether you want VE, Zealos, or someone else lynched.
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
May 31 2012 09:56 GMT
#1685
Who's gonna be my sandro this game?
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5256 Posts
May 31 2012 09:58 GMT
#1686
Zealos, I guess? But VE doesn't think you're scum, this time.
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
Zealos
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom3576 Posts
May 31 2012 10:11 GMT
#1687
Can someone summarise the VE case for me? I really can't keep up with this thread atm guys, sorry :/
Feeling very useless atm.
On the internet if you disagree with or dislike something you're angry and taking it too seriously. == Join TLMafia !
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5256 Posts
May 31 2012 10:17 GMT
#1688
On May 31 2012 19:11 Zealos wrote:
Can someone summarise the VE case for me? I really can't keep up with this thread atm guys, sorry :/
Feeling very useless atm.

The VE case
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5256 Posts
May 31 2012 10:18 GMT
#1689
This was Part 1, above was Part 2
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
Hyaach
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Singapore1737 Posts
May 31 2012 10:24 GMT
#1690
Lynch Zealos, ask VE to kill Gambitx32. Pay attention to wiggles vote.
Get a watcher to track VE and account for KP tomorrow.
Thailand is my new obsession
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
May 31 2012 10:35 GMT
#1691
On May 31 2012 19:24 Hyaach wrote:
Lynch Zealos, ask VE to kill Gambitx32. Pay attention to wiggles vote.
Get a watcher to track VE and account for KP tomorrow.


wrong. Get VE to shoot wiggles.
VE wanted to lynch gambit. I really think gambit is a dead end.
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
May 31 2012 10:40 GMT
#1692
And if VE claims a consequtive RB, or that he was beaten by a medic or something?
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
May 31 2012 10:44 GMT
#1693
watchers on VE
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5256 Posts
May 31 2012 10:48 GMT
#1694
A more dangerous WIFOM is if his target actually dies.

It would seem to confirm him, but what if scum use one of their KP to shoot his intended vig target? VE could argue that he had shot his target as planned, and that one of the other two dead guys was double stacked. The only way that WIFOM would be avoided is if another 1337 medic save complicates things.

Wiggles, where are you? Mattchew?
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5256 Posts
May 31 2012 10:49 GMT
#1695
On May 31 2012 19:44 supersoft wrote:
watchers on VE

Scum team selects him to put that shot forth.
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
May 31 2012 11:01 GMT
#1696
On May 31 2012 19:49 EchelonTee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2012 19:44 supersoft wrote:
watchers on VE

Scum team selects him to put that shot forth.

Yeah honestly if Wiggles flips town VE shooting him proves nothing. We need VE to shoot someone and have that person flip scum to confirm his role.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Hyaach
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Singapore1737 Posts
May 31 2012 11:05 GMT
#1697
that's why i said we account for KP tomorrow. But shooting Wiggles is a good choice imo.
Thailand is my new obsession
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
May 31 2012 11:39 GMT
#1698
On May 31 2012 19:35 supersoft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2012 19:24 Hyaach wrote:
Lynch Zealos, ask VE to kill Gambitx32. Pay attention to wiggles vote.
Get a watcher to track VE and account for KP tomorrow.


wrong. Get VE to shoot wiggles.
VE wanted to lynch gambit. I really think gambit is a dead end.


The only thing that makes me think wiggles is town is the fact that he ended up being mayor. A "normal" mafia would not want to be mayor because he knows he'll die eventually.
So I'd say it's kinda likely that we're either wrong about wiggles and he's town or he's simply bulletproof. Either way shooting won't solve the problem and I don't want to lynch him right now either.

VE looks like the best target by far.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
May 31 2012 11:45 GMT
#1699
If a bunch of people don't vote, will the majority be determined by a majority of voters, or majority of players?
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Hyaach
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Singapore1737 Posts
May 31 2012 11:57 GMT
#1700
I don't know how Vet is Wiggles or his meta. But as a Mayor, the fact that he has 2 vote shouldn't be brushed off simply after he decided the day 1 lynch. He should be pushing case, and actively picking up play. I don't know whether his reason is real or just a lie but so far, his only case for day 2 is gambit when a bunch of other people/vet so you called it already pushed that case to the brink of death. There's literally nothing more from gambit's post to infer. I see this as a safe way to survive into LYLO and use that two vote when it really matters.
Thailand is my new obsession
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