##vote: Nisani201
##vote: GLaDOS
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Kenpachi
United States9908 Posts
March 23 2012 21:47 GMT
#1661
##vote: Nisani201 ##vote: GLaDOS | ||
Nisani201
United States1400 Posts
March 23 2012 22:10 GMT
#1662
Foolishness, can you talk some sense into these people? | ||
Hassybaby
United Kingdom10823 Posts
March 23 2012 22:41 GMT
#1663
On March 24 2012 06:40 Maverick32x wrote: Hey, I'm going to go with Sinani on this vote I'm pretty sure. This is due to pretty much all the other reasons I stated before- PLUS, it appears that JJ isn't going to be killing him? Or am I missing something? If Sinani is going to be killed- Then I'd vote for Hassybaby ... Pretty much TONS of posts.. and 0 content. There were quite a few people that jumped on the "bluelightz" early train- which I think represents some town tendencies.. Hassybaby had very little to say about the situation... Actually, in looking at the filters, Hassybaby seems more scummy than Sinani.. but I'd lynch either of them You want to know why I haven't been totally active in my reads and and comments? Because the mods are cheaters! ![]() Yeah, I'm Yugi. Those cards are mine, and my wincon is to beat iGrok in this game. The downside is that the cards have an effect in the game, so I have to be very careful about what i play and when. Then iGrok plays that.... NO MORE BEING CAREFUL I GUESS | ||
Jayjay54
Germany2296 Posts
March 23 2012 22:55 GMT
#1664
On March 24 2012 07:41 Hassybaby wrote: Show nested quote + On March 24 2012 06:40 Maverick32x wrote: Hey, I'm going to go with Sinani on this vote I'm pretty sure. This is due to pretty much all the other reasons I stated before- PLUS, it appears that JJ isn't going to be killing him? Or am I missing something? If Sinani is going to be killed- Then I'd vote for Hassybaby ... Pretty much TONS of posts.. and 0 content. There were quite a few people that jumped on the "bluelightz" early train- which I think represents some town tendencies.. Hassybaby had very little to say about the situation... Actually, in looking at the filters, Hassybaby seems more scummy than Sinani.. but I'd lynch either of them You want to know why I haven't been totally active in my reads and and comments? Because the mods are cheaters! ![]() Yeah, I'm Yugi. Those cards are mine, and my wincon is to beat iGrok in this game. The downside is that the cards have an effect in the game, so I have to be very careful about what i play and when. Then iGrok plays that.... NO MORE BEING CAREFUL I GUESS yea, I have some questions: you claim town alignment right? what happens to you / us if you loose? so this game is being played for like 6 real life days? how does this work? any idea how the cards effect our game? why only one card per day? also, I never played yu gi oh. this dragon looks badass though. I figure you're loosing? | ||
Drazerk
United Kingdom31255 Posts
March 23 2012 23:02 GMT
#1665
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Hassybaby
United Kingdom10823 Posts
March 23 2012 23:12 GMT
#1666
On March 24 2012 07:55 Jayjay54 wrote: Show nested quote + On March 24 2012 07:41 Hassybaby wrote: On March 24 2012 06:40 Maverick32x wrote: Hey, I'm going to go with Sinani on this vote I'm pretty sure. This is due to pretty much all the other reasons I stated before- PLUS, it appears that JJ isn't going to be killing him? Or am I missing something? If Sinani is going to be killed- Then I'd vote for Hassybaby ... Pretty much TONS of posts.. and 0 content. There were quite a few people that jumped on the "bluelightz" early train- which I think represents some town tendencies.. Hassybaby had very little to say about the situation... Actually, in looking at the filters, Hassybaby seems more scummy than Sinani.. but I'd lynch either of them You want to know why I haven't been totally active in my reads and and comments? Because the mods are cheaters! ![]() Yeah, I'm Yugi. Those cards are mine, and my wincon is to beat iGrok in this game. The downside is that the cards have an effect in the game, so I have to be very careful about what i play and when. Then iGrok plays that.... NO MORE BEING CAREFUL I GUESS yea, I have some questions: 1. you claim town alignment right? what happens to you / us if you loose? 2. so this game is being played for like 6 real life days? how does this work? 3. any idea how the cards effect our game? why only one card per day? also, I never played yu gi oh. this dragon looks badass though. I figure you're loosing? 1. Nothing, its an alternative wincon. Its just complex because the cards I play are limited int he game, as well as in the Mafia game (those who've played YugiOh know what I mean to a point) 2. One turn each per day, one per night. Standard YugiOh rules apply 3. It varies on the card played. That's as far as I can tell you I'm afraid And yeah, the Dragon Master Night is one of the best cards in the game. I think I got this though | ||
Hassybaby
United Kingdom10823 Posts
March 23 2012 23:37 GMT
#1667
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Adam4167
Australia1426 Posts
March 23 2012 23:42 GMT
#1668
On March 24 2012 00:33 kitaman27 wrote: roszgbsxyejfycvsjyofx .... in a game with sleepers, and you want to start posting 'jibberish' in the thread? On March 24 2012 03:29 sinani206 wrote: I did try to ask people stuff on Day 2, but no one would respond, because of Jayjay. That's why I was mad at him and accused him. But now I realize he was simply trying to help town. That's why I said he wasn't as scummy anymore. Either way, I'm not scum. No, you didn't. I look in your filter and the only question you asked between day 1 and day 3 is if Jayjay's shot on you is unblockable. Why lie when its evident in your filter that you did no such thing? trying to blame Jayjay for you doing sweet-FA this whole game isn't going to work. You have no excuse to not have been helping us if you are town. Even if his shot was unblockable and you were going to die, you STILL should have been trying to help us as much as you could before your end. | ||
Mr. Wiggles
Canada5894 Posts
March 24 2012 01:46 GMT
#1669
On March 24 2012 00:52 ghost_403 wrote: I want to hear Mr. Wiggles weigh in on the Ghost/Nisani situation we have going on here. He posts a case against me at the beginning of Night 2. I respond to his case. A bit later, Nisani chimes in calling me scum (page 80 for reference). Next page, Wiggles makes some general posts regarding watching/following whatever, and ignores my rebuttal and all of the Nisani/Ghost back and forth on the previous page. Strange, considering how he's been positive I'm scum since Day 2. (If anyone's interested, I can reference posts, but I'm too lazy to do this right now. Ask and you shall receive.) I feel better about you now after your response. Unlike your earlier posts, they actually give a reason for your massive swings in opinion. While I don't agree with your reasoning, you actually showed you had reasoning, and your actions are consistent with it. So, this explains the giant discontinuity for me. Also, you don't need to be more verbose in your posts, you just need to actually show continuity in your thoughts and explain why you've changed your mind if it's on something significant. Nisani looks pretty bad to me, but I think Sinani looks worse. I'm still trying to decide though, but that's how I'm leaning. These two posts just look scummy as hell: On March 20 2012 12:35 sinani206 wrote: Hmmmm.... Jayjay, is your kill unblockable? On March 21 2012 08:56 sinani206 wrote: Jayjay, now that you're here, can you answer my question? The two scenarios I have in mind, are that sinani is either telling the truth, and is town, or he's scum on a team with some kind of protection, or just scum and telling the truth about his item. If he's town: Why would you ask this question? The only reason would be if you had important info to drop on the thread if the shot was unblockable and you were going to die. The shot's already coming to you either way, so when it hits, you'll either live or you won't. From what I can see, JayJay never actually answers his question. However, Sinani doesn't drop any info on the thread. He doesn't claim results, he doesn't give all his reads, he doesn't do anything at all, but act like the shot never existed. This doesn't' make sense from a town perspective, especially after you ask if the shot will actually kill you or not, which means you're concerned about your death, and have some reason for needing to know. If he's scum: This question makes a lot more sense from a scum perspective given his follow-up. If scum have a medic, he wants to know if he can block the shot or not, because if it's unblockable there's no point using their protect there. If he just has an extra life as any kind of scum, he wants to know, because it could change how he acts, if he's trying to achieve a specific win condition, or simply so his team can plan around whether he lives or not. In either of these scenarios, his follow-up makes sense. There's no reason for him to give any sort of information to the thread, because it doesn't further his win condition. He just wants to know so he can either get his team to protect him, or plan around how much time he has alive. Either way, it's based off selfish reasons, and not reasons that have the best in mind for town. I see this as pretty damning. | ||
Adam4167
Australia1426 Posts
March 24 2012 02:53 GMT
#1670
Mementoss filter in Surprisingly Normal Mini Mafia IX There are far too many scummy people in this town, my kingdom for a multi-lynch. Or a multi-shot vig cannon. | ||
sinani206
United States1959 Posts
March 24 2012 05:05 GMT
#1671
On March 24 2012 10:46 Mr. Wiggles wrote: Show nested quote + On March 24 2012 00:52 ghost_403 wrote: I want to hear Mr. Wiggles weigh in on the Ghost/Nisani situation we have going on here. He posts a case against me at the beginning of Night 2. I respond to his case. A bit later, Nisani chimes in calling me scum (page 80 for reference). Next page, Wiggles makes some general posts regarding watching/following whatever, and ignores my rebuttal and all of the Nisani/Ghost back and forth on the previous page. Strange, considering how he's been positive I'm scum since Day 2. (If anyone's interested, I can reference posts, but I'm too lazy to do this right now. Ask and you shall receive.) I feel better about you now after your response. Unlike your earlier posts, they actually give a reason for your massive swings in opinion. While I don't agree with your reasoning, you actually showed you had reasoning, and your actions are consistent with it. So, this explains the giant discontinuity for me. Also, you don't need to be more verbose in your posts, you just need to actually show continuity in your thoughts and explain why you've changed your mind if it's on something significant. Nisani looks pretty bad to me, but I think Sinani looks worse. I'm still trying to decide though, but that's how I'm leaning. These two posts just look scummy as hell: Show nested quote + On March 20 2012 12:35 sinani206 wrote: Hmmmm.... Jayjay, is your kill unblockable? Show nested quote + On March 21 2012 08:56 sinani206 wrote: Jayjay, now that you're here, can you answer my question? The two scenarios I have in mind, are that sinani is either telling the truth, and is town, or he's scum on a team with some kind of protection, or just scum and telling the truth about his item. I did claim shot and that my long fall boots protected me. Also, Nisani is scum. If he's town: Why would you ask this question? The only reason would be if you had important info to drop on the thread if the shot was unblockable and you were going to die. The shot's already coming to you either way, so when it hits, you'll either live or you won't. From what I can see, JayJay never actually answers his question. However, Sinani doesn't drop any info on the thread. He doesn't claim results, he doesn't give all his reads, he doesn't do anything at all, but act like the shot never existed. This doesn't' make sense from a town perspective, especially after you ask if the shot will actually kill you or not, which means you're concerned about your death, and have some reason for needing to know. If he's scum: This question makes a lot more sense from a scum perspective given his follow-up. If scum have a medic, he wants to know if he can block the shot or not, because if it's unblockable there's no point using their protect there. If he just has an extra life as any kind of scum, he wants to know, because it could change how he acts, if he's trying to achieve a specific win condition, or simply so his team can plan around whether he lives or not. In either of these scenarios, his follow-up makes sense. There's no reason for him to give any sort of information to the thread, because it doesn't further his win condition. He just wants to know so he can either get his team to protect him, or plan around how much time he has alive. Either way, it's based off selfish reasons, and not reasons that have the best in mind for town. I see this as pretty damning. I did claim that I was shot and the long-fall boots protected me at the beginning of the day. Also, I don't want to vote for myself, and as usual, I am one of the two major lynch candidates. ##Vote: Nisani201 | ||
kitaman27
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United States9244 Posts
March 24 2012 05:15 GMT
#1672
On March 23 2012 19:54 Dirk Hardpec wrote: Haven't read the thread yet. I have a lemon. I gave my lemon to ghost and grack. If nobody claims to have given a lemon to dirk, then he probably obtained it from through a night kill. I also marked Palmar for death last night. He will die tomorrow night. The fact that he hasn't claimed it in the thread shows he is clearly hiding something as he is informed of his fate. Palmar seems content with a nisani lynch, which probably doesn't bode well. sinani surviving the hit because he happens to be a vet is too convenient. Been really busy, but this thread is really dead. What happened? | ||
Mr. Wiggles
Canada5894 Posts
March 24 2012 06:21 GMT
#1673
On March 24 2012 14:05 sinani206 wrote: + Show Spoiler + On March 24 2012 10:46 Mr. Wiggles wrote: Show nested quote + On March 24 2012 00:52 ghost_403 wrote: I want to hear Mr. Wiggles weigh in on the Ghost/Nisani situation we have going on here. He posts a case against me at the beginning of Night 2. I respond to his case. A bit later, Nisani chimes in calling me scum (page 80 for reference). Next page, Wiggles makes some general posts regarding watching/following whatever, and ignores my rebuttal and all of the Nisani/Ghost back and forth on the previous page. Strange, considering how he's been positive I'm scum since Day 2. (If anyone's interested, I can reference posts, but I'm too lazy to do this right now. Ask and you shall receive.) I feel better about you now after your response. Unlike your earlier posts, they actually give a reason for your massive swings in opinion. While I don't agree with your reasoning, you actually showed you had reasoning, and your actions are consistent with it. So, this explains the giant discontinuity for me. Also, you don't need to be more verbose in your posts, you just need to actually show continuity in your thoughts and explain why you've changed your mind if it's on something significant. Nisani looks pretty bad to me, but I think Sinani looks worse. I'm still trying to decide though, but that's how I'm leaning. These two posts just look scummy as hell: Show nested quote + On March 20 2012 12:35 sinani206 wrote: Hmmmm.... Jayjay, is your kill unblockable? Show nested quote + On March 21 2012 08:56 sinani206 wrote: Jayjay, now that you're here, can you answer my question? The two scenarios I have in mind, are that sinani is either telling the truth, and is town, or he's scum on a team with some kind of protection, or just scum and telling the truth about his item. I did claim shot and that my long fall boots protected me. Also, Nisani is scum. If he's town: Why would you ask this question? The only reason would be if you had important info to drop on the thread if the shot was unblockable and you were going to die. The shot's already coming to you either way, so when it hits, you'll either live or you won't. From what I can see, JayJay never actually answers his question. However, Sinani doesn't drop any info on the thread. He doesn't claim results, he doesn't give all his reads, he doesn't do anything at all, but act like the shot never existed. This doesn't' make sense from a town perspective, especially after you ask if the shot will actually kill you or not, which means you're concerned about your death, and have some reason for needing to know. If he's scum: This question makes a lot more sense from a scum perspective given his follow-up. If scum have a medic, he wants to know if he can block the shot or not, because if it's unblockable there's no point using their protect there. If he just has an extra life as any kind of scum, he wants to know, because it could change how he acts, if he's trying to achieve a specific win condition, or simply so his team can plan around whether he lives or not. In either of these scenarios, his follow-up makes sense. There's no reason for him to give any sort of information to the thread, because it doesn't further his win condition. He just wants to know so he can either get his team to protect him, or plan around how much time he has alive. Either way, it's based off selfish reasons, and not reasons that have the best in mind for town. I see this as pretty damning. I did claim that I was shot and the long-fall boots protected me at the beginning of the day. Also, I don't want to vote for myself, and as usual, I am one of the two major lynch candidates. ##Vote: Nisani201 What does that have to do with anything? The point is you were very concerned with whether JayJay's shot would go through protection, and when he never told you, you didn't follow it up in the same way I'd expect a townie to after asking something like that. That implies that you had an ulterior motive in asking that wasn't pro-town. I'd like to hear from you, though. Why'd you ask JayJay that question? Not once, but twice. ##Vote: sinani206 | ||
Nisani201
United States1400 Posts
March 24 2012 06:26 GMT
#1674
I am the inventor. I can invent anything and give it to anyone, but I can't give to the same person twice. I gave myself the security camera n1. I won't say who I gave the puppet strings to but I can tell what they do. You target someone and all actions done against you are instead done to the puppet. You can also kill the puppet. It works just like the puppet master role in ptp2. If you need more confirmation I will let someone else decide what I invent tonight. | ||
Adam4167
Australia1426 Posts
March 24 2012 07:05 GMT
#1675
I wanted him to step up, put in some work, and he did. While I may not agree with his case on ghost, it seems genuine, as does his frustration to Jayjay pressing him. If you want to make me something to get rid of Mementoss, id love you long time. | ||
zelblade
Australia901 Posts
March 24 2012 07:16 GMT
#1676
Anyways im dead beat so taking a nap brb in a few hours | ||
Adam4167
Australia1426 Posts
March 24 2012 07:55 GMT
#1677
##Vote Sinani206 | ||
Jayjay54
Germany2296 Posts
March 24 2012 08:54 GMT
#1678
On March 24 2012 15:26 Nisani201 wrote: Alright since it's very likely I'm going to die soon I'm going to claim. I am the inventor. I can invent anything and give it to anyone, but I can't give to the same person twice. I gave myself the security camera n1. I won't say who I gave the puppet strings to but I can tell what they do. You target someone and all actions done against you are instead done to the puppet. You can also kill the puppet. It works just like the puppet master role in ptp2. If you need more confirmation I will let someone else decide what I invent tonight. hahaha ![]() it ain't your lucky day bro. I got the puppet strings. Right at dawn. Actually one minute before dawn. So no way anyone passed it on. this is another reason why I pushed you. But I didn't want to reveal it yet. a) The ability is far from lame and creative. I imagine the real inventor inventing something different then a watcher/tracker thing. b) There's no way someone gives the camera to Nisani night one and me the strings night two. Because I've been pushing Nisani ever since. So Nisani. Why would you give me a powerful item, when I just made a case on you that night? | ||
Jayjay54
Germany2296 Posts
March 24 2012 09:38 GMT
#1679
On March 20 2012 03:50 Jayjay54 wrote: I am not saying that dirk is looking good, but I say that there are better targets. C_C, Nisani, maybe adam. Some more. On March 21 2012 03:27 Jayjay54 wrote: Nisani underperforms as hell. Don't like that. On March 21 2012 04:10 Jayjay54 wrote: I think adam, nisani and blue are all reasonable targets. On March 21 2012 08:47 Jayjay54 wrote: So, I personally would like a different lynch choice. Right now, Nisani. On March 21 2012 09:12 Jayjay54 wrote: going to sleep now. and I want to stress again, dirk is not confirmed, but his role is townish and the case wasn't as good. I'd like to lynch somebody else. If you think dirk's filter says nothing, look at nisani's. On March 22 2012 02:01 Jayjay54 wrote: Why is Nisani being ignored? On March 22 2012 02:17 Jayjay54 wrote: nisani can play much better...which makes me think he is scum... On March 23 2012 01:13 Jayjay54 wrote: Show nested quote + On March 22 2012 00:26 Nisani201 wrote: On March 22 2012 00:01 Adam4167 wrote: Nisani, when I compare your filter in this game to your filter in NMM1 (Nisani in NMM1), its like two different people. Nisani in NMM1 is also lurking and has a small filter, but you can see he genuinely cares about the direction the game is heading. He is also supremely confident in his reads. Now comparing that to this game, you seem disinterested, your reads are lacking in confidence, and you seem to be happy just to let things unfold however they do. Can we expect a case that requires some form of actual effort? such as: This Case You played well in NMM1, even if you were lynched by town. If that nisani doesn't come back soon, I will happily vote to see you swing. I am off to bed, its 1:30am here. Ill set my alarm so I am here before the lynch to put my vote somewhere meaningful. My play in this game is different for a lot of reasons. Mainly because I'm more active in mini games because the thread is shorter. Also, there's not much to talk about this game-- as I've mentioned earlier, this is pretty much a repeat of Day 1 because it's impossible to draw information from Drazerk's lynch. Recently I've been trying to avoid analyses in big games because most of them suffer from confirmation bias; it's very easy to take anyone's filter and twist what they say to get an analysis (read TL Mafia XLII if you want to see a game where this happened a lot). On Dirk: he's posted his read, which is what I was looking for before, but the analysis seems butchered like I mentioned above and it seems like he picked a random filter and pointed at random flaws in it. I'm going to trust that Palmar revealed himself by accident and it wasn't a trick to get us to pull votes off of him. I'll keep my vote on him for now, but I'd like to see a votecount to see if a switch to Bluelightz is still viable. I would be ok with lynching him instead of Dirk. At that time the vote count was: Lightz 5 Dirk 3 (including himself and Sinani) Kenpachi 2 Kita 1 Ghost 1 Wiggles 1 When Nisani voted he tied the vote count 2-2. He MUST have seen that this is a close one. You make a big post like that and ask for a vote count? I want you guys to look at the voting thread around 00:00 march 22. Just take a brief glimps, 10 seconds, you immediately see that the vote is nowhere near decided. What you don’t see is a stong mayority for dirk. The last 5 votes at that time were NOT dirk. This is bullshit. You mention that the only reason that you don’t voteswitch is that you don’t know if a switch is viable? With like 10 hours to go? This is already not towny. And you take the time and make a larger post like you did (which took at least 5 mins to write) and never mind to justify your reason by looking at the voting thread for 10 seconds? Really? I don’t buy it. You just want to avoid lynching your GF. Your posts have been oneliners all over the place, your accusations are week. Your answer to me calling you a vig target is “Why am I a target” and then you disappear again? You say you are suspicious of lightz early on? Show nested quote + On March 21 2012 09:33 Nisani201 wrote: Kenpachi you are right. Bluelightz does not look town either. And in the past, I've found that chainsawing Sinani has been really useful for finding scum so he goes on my scum list. I still want to lynch Dirk though. This is the only time you mention him. That’s randomly dropping a name. That’s not pushing or anything. No one even read that. The last line is your real intention. Remember this post if I die tonight. Nisani needs to be vigged or lynched. On March 23 2012 01:44 Jayjay54 wrote: Show nested quote + On March 23 2012 01:40 Nisani201 wrote: Just because I wanted to lynch Dirk more than Bluelightz doesn't mean I'm scum. I'm not trying to take credit for the Bluelightz lynch. Would you still think I were scum if I had kept my vote on Dirk? I wanted to kill you before and now I caught you lying. Your defense on somebody else's post on you was something like I was suspicious of blue before, so you try to get towncreds for that. yes of course, I'd still think you're scum, if you had your vote on dirk. But the excuse for not voting lightz was a blunt lie and that's why I am even more certain now. ^^ both posts BEFORE I got the item. There are like 10 posts in which I mention that Nisani is a priority to me. Tell me guys, is that the one. you give your powerful item WITH VIG ability to? No? Damn right, he's (once more) lying! you, sir, are no inventor. you just happen to have a portal gun and used it on me. | ||
zelblade
Australia901 Posts
March 24 2012 11:29 GMT
#1680
On March 24 2012 07:41 Hassybaby wrote: Show nested quote + On March 24 2012 06:40 Maverick32x wrote: Hey, I'm going to go with Sinani on this vote I'm pretty sure. This is due to pretty much all the other reasons I stated before- PLUS, it appears that JJ isn't going to be killing him? Or am I missing something? If Sinani is going to be killed- Then I'd vote for Hassybaby ... Pretty much TONS of posts.. and 0 content. There were quite a few people that jumped on the "bluelightz" early train- which I think represents some town tendencies.. Hassybaby had very little to say about the situation... Actually, in looking at the filters, Hassybaby seems more scummy than Sinani.. but I'd lynch either of them You want to know why I haven't been totally active in my reads and and comments? Because the mods are cheaters! ![]() Yeah, I'm Yugi. Those cards are mine, and my wincon is to beat iGrok in this game. The downside is that the cards have an effect in the game, so I have to be very careful about what i play and when. Then iGrok plays that.... NO MORE BEING CAREFUL I GUESS Do you know the effects (on the mafia game, not in the yugioh game) of the cards you play? Are they stated, or do they have effects that you dont know about? Also I find not being able to contribute as much to the thread due to a single yugioh turn a phase wierd. Sure, might take a bit longer than a normal game (due to the effects on the mafia game blahblah) but still. Are you removed from the game if you defeat iGrok? Do you know if kaiba is a role, or the mods are playing him? And how the hell did you manage to let him get dragon master knight so quick lol? He lucked out with some sort of 3 blue eyes 1 luster soilder 2 polymerization hand? :D Also dragon master knight sucks shit considering how hard it is to summon, has a weak effect, and that it can die to any sort of spell or trap (hinthint) easily. | ||
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