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Hi, I'm one of the organizers of the tournament and would like to give our stance on the whole BratOK/Stephano situation.
Basically, there are two possible interpretations of the rules here. One is that the criteria for foul play were not sufficiently met to warrant disclipinary action, and the result on paper is the one that will stick. The other is that, since neither was obviously playing one hundred percent to win, both sides would have fouled the rules (under "sabotaging games") and would receive similar punishment, which would be a DQ in this case. Neither course of action is optimal, but the latter is clearly the greater of the two evils, and thus the result will remain in effect and Stephano won the series.
Now, about the tournament system in general. Randomizing the playoff brackets (random group winner vs random group second) is not purely a positive change from the system used in this tournament, as it can easily (obviously not always) result in quite lopsided brackets with more higher skilled players on one side. If it would be clearly the best way to do this, every tournament would use it, including the major sports already used as examples of similar events in the past. The used system preserves the power of the predefined seeds longer into the tournament, optimally resulting in more evenly matched high skilled games later in the tournament. The downside of this is the rare occasion of this kind of thing happening.
Now, certainly the tournament structure used is not perfect and will be revised in the future and certain changes will probably be made. One strong possible fix is simply fuddling the group names and not publishing what group will be against what in advance. The reason this was not done here is because it makes the system less transparent, thus more open to possible internal abuse. Still, it probably is the better choice, weighing the pros and cons of each.
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put the stream quality on 240, sure it ain't pretty but it is smooth for me now
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On August 05 2011 03:06 arachnidd wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2011 03:06 x2mirko wrote: is the stream (TB & Apollo) lagging for someone else? quite severe right now and my connection is fine :/ Yeah its pretty laggy, hopefully will be sorted soon. It was fine this afternoon, now its laggy for me as well. (I want my Nada and Huk games in 720p )
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why they keep using justin which is sooo bad...
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At least Huk vs Jimpo is fine.
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On August 05 2011 03:08 parazice wrote: Wow my Justin.tv is lagging so hard same here... i thought it was just me
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lol that apm of nada's :p
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Overconfident much Huk?
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jimpo beating the shit outta HuK
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Elfi with the disconnect timing.
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On August 05 2011 03:09 Jyvblamo wrote: At least Huk vs Jimpo is fine. Well, Jimpo is.
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On August 05 2011 03:08 Silu wrote: Hi, I'm one of the organizers of the tournament and would like to give our stance on the whole BratOK/Stephano situation.
Basically, there are two possible interpretations of the rules here. One is that the criteria for foul play were not sufficiently met to warrant disclipinary action, and the result on paper is the one that will stick. The other is that, since neither was obviously playing one hundred percent to win, both sides would have fouled the rules (under "sabotaging games") and would receive similar punishment, which would be a DQ in this case. Neither course of action is optimal, but the latter is clearly the greater of the two evils, and thus the result will remain in effect and Stephano won the series.
Now, about the tournament system in general. Randomizing the playoff brackets (random group winner vs random group second) is not purely a positive change from the system used in this tournament, as it can easily (obviously not always) result in quite lopsided brackets with more higher skilled players on one side. If it would be clearly the best way to do this, every tournament would use it, including the major sports already used as examples of similar events in the past. The used system preserves the power of the predefined seeds longer into the tournament, optimally resulting in more evenly matched high skilled games later in the tournament. The downside of this is the rare occasion of this kind of thing happening.
Now, certainly the tournament structure used is not perfect and will be revised in the future and certain changes will probably be made. One strong possible fix is simply fuddling the group names and not publishing what group will be against what in advance. The reason this was not done here is because it makes the system less transparent, thus more open to possible internal abuse. Still, it probably is the better choice, weighing the pros and cons of each.
Thanks for the clarifications, i pretty much agree with everything you've said.
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Holy HuK..... That was bad.
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They shouldn't blame bnet.
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LOL just as I say huk looks extremely hard to beat jimpo takes a game!!!!!
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someone pulled the plug :p
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Elfi out = Stream fine. :>
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