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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
December 14 2012 13:01 GMT
#1621
Anyway, I found that question I thought was scummy, but it was from debears lol.

On December 11 2012 22:13 debears wrote:
Vivax, why are you defending someone who has a vote on you?


thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
December 14 2012 13:02 GMT
#1622
the point is that i don't care at all about irl excuses either way but you seem to be making an issue over it for no reason
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
December 14 2012 13:03 GMT
#1623
On December 14 2012 22:01 Vivax wrote:
Anyway, I found that question I thought was scummy, but it was from debears lol.

Show nested quote +
On December 11 2012 22:13 debears wrote:
Vivax, why are you defending someone who has a vote on you?




fos debears
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 14 2012 13:05 GMT
#1624
This Z-Bo wagon is pretty silly. He answered himself pretty satisfactorily, and it rises my opinion of Djodref a bit... although he may just be scum with prior knowledge of alignments.

I made a pretty big meta case on Z-Bo in Mario Mafia about being passive and less involved than I remember him as town, and it was just completely wrong.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 14 2012 13:06 GMT
#1625
On December 14 2012 22:02 thrawn2112 wrote:
the point is that i don't care at all about irl excuses either way but you seem to be making an issue over it for no reason


he's not, you are.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
December 14 2012 13:07 GMT
#1626
We're cool then, I'm going through Z-Bosons filter now.

Anyway, I had that tendency to lynch him for information when I saw jay react like that, since you were wondering why I suddenly had interest in Z.

Other than that, I don't have any arguments at hand to call him scummy yet, I might follow up soon if I conclude he is.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 14 2012 13:09 GMT
#1627
On December 14 2012 22:07 Vivax wrote:
We're cool then, I'm going through Z-Bosons filter now.

Anyway, I had that tendency to lynch him for information when I saw jay react like that, since you were wondering why I suddenly had interest in Z.

Other than that, I don't have any arguments at hand to call him scummy yet, I might follow up soon if I conclude he is.


mafia makes me so sad sometimes :<
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
December 14 2012 13:13 GMT
#1628
On December 14 2012 22:05 marvellosity wrote:
This Z-Bo wagon is pretty silly. He answered himself pretty satisfactorily, and it rises my opinion of Djodref a bit... although he may just be scum with prior knowledge of alignments.

I made a pretty big meta case on Z-Bo in Mario Mafia about being passive and less involved than I remember him as town, and it was just completely wrong.


sorry i do not comprehend what you're trying to say with this:

"He answered himself pretty satisfactorily, and it rises my opinion of Djodref a bit... although he may just be scum with prior knowledge of alignments."

"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 14 2012 13:15 GMT
#1629
On December 14 2012 22:13 thrawn2112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2012 22:05 marvellosity wrote:
This Z-Bo wagon is pretty silly. He answered himself pretty satisfactorily, and it rises my opinion of Djodref a bit... although he may just be scum with prior knowledge of alignments.

I made a pretty big meta case on Z-Bo in Mario Mafia about being passive and less involved than I remember him as town, and it was just completely wrong.


sorry i do not comprehend what you're trying to say with this:

"He answered himself pretty satisfactorily, and it rises my opinion of Djodref a bit... although he may just be scum with prior knowledge of alignments."



I'm talking about Djo's reaction to the Z-Bo case + Z-Bo's response
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
December 14 2012 13:17 GMT
#1630
yeah but idk what "rises my opinion" means... makes him scummy or townie? or you admire his play?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
December 14 2012 13:17 GMT
#1631
ok nvm dont waste your time i get it
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
December 14 2012 13:24 GMT
#1632
I don't like the fact people aren't sheeping my Djodref case.
Computer says mafia
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 14 2012 13:26 GMT
#1633
that's because Tunkeg is a better lynch
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Tunkeg
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Norway1235 Posts
December 14 2012 13:32 GMT
#1634
On December 14 2012 22:24 Palmar wrote:
I don't like the fact people aren't sheeping my Djodref case.


You should go vote VE instead!
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
December 14 2012 13:36 GMT
#1635
On December 14 2012 22:24 Palmar wrote:
I don't like the fact people aren't sheeping my Djodref case.


It's not like your case his bad, your points are valid but they don't necessarily point to me being a mafia.
I look bad but I'm town, and you have to find the mafia somewhere else.

How did you feel while reading Tunkeg answering you when asking who was seriously dumb.
Don't you ask yourself how he could be so sure that you were town and WBG scum ?

If Tunkeg is scum, his play was preparing a WBG mislynch on D2.
If Tunkeg is town, he seems way overconfident for somebody that don't really interact with people on the thread.
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
December 14 2012 13:37 GMT
#1636
On December 14 2012 22:32 Tunkeg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2012 22:24 Palmar wrote:
I don't like the fact people aren't sheeping my Djodref case.


You should go vote VE instead!


Tunkeg, can you answer my previous question please ?
Who was seriously dumb and a possible JK ?
Tunkeg
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Norway1235 Posts
December 14 2012 13:40 GMT
#1637
On December 14 2012 22:37 Djodref wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2012 22:32 Tunkeg wrote:
On December 14 2012 22:24 Palmar wrote:
I don't like the fact people aren't sheeping my Djodref case.


You should go vote VE instead!


Tunkeg, can you answer my previous question please ?
Who was seriously dumb and a possible JK ?


Every player is a possible JK. The ones I meant with serious dumb players was the ones listed in my reads thread, thrawn and vivax. You are probably seriously dumb as well. Why does it matter?
Tunkeg
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Norway1235 Posts
December 14 2012 13:43 GMT
#1638
And there are other players that might be considered stupid as well. For sure WBG played like simpleton this game.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
December 14 2012 13:48 GMT
#1639
On December 14 2012 22:26 marvellosity wrote:
that's because Tunkeg is a better lynch


But it's so dangerous, if he's a terrible lynch we have to lynch you tomorrow, which would suck
Computer says mafia
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
December 14 2012 13:50 GMT
#1640
Went through Z-Bosons filter.Sorry in advance if you already said some of this, but I'm going solo on this for now.

A few things for the start:

He went scum->town->scum on Tunkeg as of now
He went suspicious->neutral->scum->town on me, his latest change involved the WBG flip. Reason he doesn't think of me as scum anymore:

+ Show Spoiler +
On December 13 2012 12:04 Z-BosoN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2012 11:54 Hapahauli wrote:
Also Z-Bo, who's your top scumread now in the face of the WBG flip? Still Vivax?


No, tbh I don't think vivax is scum anymore. Despite his weird-as-fuck vote on Adam, the rest of his play feels to me like he is involved. Jay isn't looking too hot, and neither is Djo. VE is also someone I have to look more carefully, as well as yourself.
Point a gun to my head and I'd say jay.


Then, I found this a bit weird:
+ Show Spoiler +
On December 11 2012 04:17 Z-BosoN wrote:
@debears
I see you've got some Adam going on for ya. I think you are getting too riled up over expecting someone to go balls out on a day one suspicion.

You, for example, are not nearly as spammy as your day one self. I don't think this aligns with your townie play, but I don't think it necessarily makes you scummy.

I am curious to hear from adam his stance on thrawn, as he seemed to have dropped it..


No big deal, one could think.
But it leaves one question open: What was the purpose of this post?It's basically just saying:
"You're suspecting Adam, i don't think you should"
"You don't behave like town, but I don't think you're scum"
"Adam doesn't call out thrawn anymore, let's hear from him"

But overall, I didn't find anything conclusive. You're not gonna like this, but I'm still null on Z-Boson. Doesn't change if I keep looking at his filter.
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