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PaqMan
United States1475 Posts
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Forumite
Sweden3280 Posts
On May 11 2011 06:50 sandroba wrote: I fell asleep, that´s what was up. It went well anyway. Hey forumite, I noticed you promissed to change your vote to amber unless he claimed blue but you didn't do it. What's up with that? | ||
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Eternalmisfit
United States643 Posts
On May 11 2011 06:58 Cthsazsa wrote: He knew Amber was mafia, so he insisted on keeping his vote on Sandroba. Knowing he would look suspicious if he kept his vote on Sandroba (A lynch on him obv wasn't going to happen), and not wanting to vote on his fellow scum, He uses the scapegoat, i.e. me. Firstly, regarding your other post, I stated clearly that I would prefer to keep my vote on Sandroba as I was convinced that he was scum more than you. However, a few people stated towards the end of the day that I should take a stand between the two of you and thus I voted for you. If I was scum and knew Amber was scum, why wouldn't I have voted for Cthsazsa long before that point in order to increase the lead between Amber and Cthsazsa instead of focusing on Sandroba (it was clear that he was not going to be voted at some time before that). As for ilovejonn's accusations and anlaysis. Point 1: Non-important as it was just A FoS Point 2: I cant even count how many PbP analysis had been on Day1. Interesting you pick apart each of my posts the same way I did for Kurumi and then claim I am scum for that. Point 3: The strategy of voting a person likely to be mod-killed was something I proposed in Surpirsingly normal mini mafia in case the town didnt reach a consensus well and it worked out decently there. It is the same logic I applied there. Point 4: I voted for Kurumi since he posts seem to focus on derailing town discussion and not because his posts were bad in grammer/hard to follow. Also, there was no content in his spam posting Point 5: I was of the opinion Irish is a reasonable lynch target as well. If you see the post I was referring to, redtooth made a specific argument for Irish and thus, I was replying in context of Irish. I still believed Kurumi was a better lynch target at that point. Point 6: I posted later that I got busy at work and thus will be unable to make the post. It is interesting that someone who claims about lower activity due to real life stuff use the same argument to paint someone else as scum. Point 7: Spreadsheet - If making a spreadsheet showing who voted/FoS/defended whom makes me scummy, I don't know what to respond that with. Also, at this point, I would recommend that if someone is putting a vote on someone (be it me or someone else), please make a case or argument as to why you are voting for that person. Despite me being wrong or right, I have always posted as to why I voted for someone unlike a lot of people who either made bandwagon votes or voted w/o posting any explanation at all. In any case, quite a few people are missing from thread completely today and I would like to hear their opinion/take on the discussion. Them being: VarpuliS, Kenpachi, jaminz, Conversion, and sinani. | ||
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Forumite
Sweden3280 Posts
On May 11 2011 08:42 Eternalmisfit wrote:In any case, quite a few people are missing from thread completely today and I would like to hear their opinion/take on the discussion. Them being: VarpuliS, Kenpachi, jaminz, Conversion, and sinani. Staying silent now is the most anti-town thing you can do. Start posting. | ||
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Varpulis
United States2517 Posts
About the other two prime suspects: I think that Sinani206 is definitely a stronger lynch than ilovejohn. I've got a town read on Dropbear, because he pointed out all of the times he's been wrong. That's a really stupid thing for scum to do, and he doesn't seem like a stupid guy. Not sure though. Sinani206 He has literally three posts that are not 1/2 liners or jokes/trolling. + Show Spoiler [post 1] + On May 05 2011 10:31 sinani206 wrote: OK, back from practice. + Show Spoiler [Redtooth] + He is probably the most confusing player right now. First he accuses Irish for no reason, but then takes it back, followed by a policy post. His excuse was that he was trying to see how quickly people defended Irish, but what if that was plan B? Redtooth hasn't posted in a while now, and this has kinda died down, but I just want to remind everyone about what happened earlier. Don't just throw things away as soon as he makes an excuse. + Show Spoiler [Chaoser] + Chaoser was very aggressive at first, of course starting with his accusation of Irish which was followed by additional aggressive posting. But then he calmed down a little. Is it because his Mafia buddies told him to, so as not to be targeted? That is the main question I have here. + Show Spoiler [Jackal58] + Aggressive, but in a neutral way. Nothing he has said swings me one way or the other. He plays very well. You get a star! lol. + Show Spoiler [Irish_Punk13] + May have overreacted to accusation, but that was probably just surprise... I don't blame him. He then blames AirbladeOrange, which isn't too suprising. More on him next. + Show Spoiler [AirbladeOrange] + Very suspicious with not much of a defense. Possible vote right here. + Show Spoiler [Cthsazsa] + Posting, but no real substance. Another possible vote. + Show Spoiler [Forumite] + Very analytical, no aggressiveness. + Show Spoiler [Others] + Nobody else really stands out enough or has enough posts for me to analyze their play. Just keep posting, people! What does he say here?
I this post just feels overall off to me. The defense of Irish + the suspicion of Chaoser/redtooth (confirmed vet/likely townie) and agreeing making suggestions of who to lynch without giving good reasons (1 sentence is not a good reason) compound to make this post seem... off. + Show Spoiler [post 2] + On May 05 2011 10:51 sinani206 wrote: Calls Kurumi very analytical (wtf), but says that aggressiveness and persistence mean that Kurumi is scum, so he'll vote for him. I'm not calling him scum because he was wrong, but he gave a really half-assed reason for the vote. Seems to me like a mafia trying to join the bandwagon. Upon looking through his posts again, I found a reason for the vote. It's a 1 liner, so I skipped over it originally + Show Spoiler + On May 05 2011 11:41 sinani206 wrote: Kurumi has just been generally unhelpful and detrimental to the town. Must I say more? + Show Spoiler [post 3] + [QUOTE]On May 08 2011 23:51 sinani206 wrote: Lyter chaos13 kevconsim Takuna Beneather This is the list of people that have not contributed to day 2. At least some of the scum must hide in the inactives. Kevconsim was a replacement for Rising_Phoneix, who did not even vote on day 1. Rising_Phoenix is an extreme case of inactivity, which is a scumtell. Kevconsim has inherited his role and is doing the same thing. This is VERY suspicious. As such, my vote is for kevconsim unless he starts posting some useful stuff and voting. ##Vote: kevconsim Who do you think is scum, kev? 3/5 of the people on that list were green/blue. I'm going to go out on a limb and say that the other two probably are as well. He leaves Irish_Punk13 off that list quite conveniently. That wraps it up. Those are seriously Sinani206's only quality posts. He's lurking loudly and not contributing, and that screams scum to me. Add that to the fact that he his only real posts are either misinformation or filled with suspicious reads, and I'm ready to lynch this guy right now. | ||
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Varpulis
United States2517 Posts
On May 11 2011 08:50 Forumite wrote: Staying silent now is the most anti-town thing you can do. Start posting. How's that for posting? btw i got the mods to change my name, so there's no longer a capital "s." Didn't Kenpachi claim vigi? | ||
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PaqMan
United States1475 Posts
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PaqMan
United States1475 Posts
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Varpulis
United States2517 Posts
On May 11 2011 09:22 Cthsazsa wrote: @Varpulis, yup he claimed responsible. What does "claimed responsible" mean? Do you mean he claimed that he was responsible for the hit on GGQ? | ||
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Forumite
Sweden3280 Posts
On May 11 2011 09:14 Varpulis wrote: How's that for posting? btw i got the mods to change my name, so there's no longer a capital "s." [tyrael] No! Don´t do it! [/tyrael] @VarpuliS Good write-up on sinani206. Looks like a good day 3 lynch | ||
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PaqMan
United States1475 Posts
On May 11 2011 09:34 Varpulis wrote: What does "claimed responsible" mean? Do you mean he claimed that he was responsible for the hit on GGQ? pretty much | ||
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
Ilovejohn On May 05 2011 10:50 ilovejonn wrote: I consider myself an invisible poster but I don't spam the thread with useless wifom like what you did here. On May 05 2011 12:04 ilovejonn wrote: Told you guys I'm an invisible poster. I've made my stance before and have voted for Kurumi. What exactly does the "invisible poster" mean? Are you proud of the fact that you haven't stood out thus far? Seems like a good scum trait to me. On May 06 2011 11:59 ilovejonn wrote: I got off work at 9 pm est. Come home and had to read 10 pages. I already explained I read slow. And by the time of this post it is already 10:56 pm est. I have to eat dinner and stuff too. Please people if you don't have anything to contribute don't post something because I never skip any single post. I read them all, even the spam. Maybe I should learn to scan but them I'm afraid I'll miss something. My vote stays on Kurumi, I'm not going to switch a vote at 10:58 pm est, especially when it doesn't do a damn thing. It took you two hours to read through the thread. That's why you couldn't change your vote? How convenient. On May 08 2011 03:47 ilovejonn wrote: My vote still stays on Beneather based on huge activity level difference. Until he comes in and posts I have reason to believe he is lurking scum. On May 08 2011 03:56 ilovejonn wrote: I confused myself there. What my main point is, is that I think Beneather should have voted who he thought was scum, instead of last minute going on the bandwagon with NO explanation at all to seem to blend in with the majority of the people. Perhaps my logic is faulty, but my bigger scum read on him is still the activity level change. If he decides to come back with an explanation, I'll reconsider my vote. On May 09 2011 02:34 ilovejonn wrote: Unvoting Beneather since he hasn't posted anything despite the pressure. Probably a modkill. Placing my vote on Cthsazsa as I still feel that I have a blue read on Amber. It is also mother's day today and this is my only chance to post right now. Have to go out now, I probably won't be back until tomorrow. He states multiple times how he think Beneather is a lurking scum, yet conveniently changes his mind to vote for Cthsazsa when there has been no change in the Beneather situation. On May 10 2011 12:44 ilovejonn wrote: Props to chaoser for his scum-hunting abilities, I'm really amazed at his confidence for going after Amber and GGQ. I'd have to agree we either had a stupid/afk medic, or this is a no medic setup. Looking at the list of players however, we had 2 day vig modkills, 1 night vig killed by the mafia, and 1 vig that hasn't claimed. With that many KP I'm leaning towards the probability that there aren't any medics. The vigi should claim early as that would prevent mafia from fake claiming that shot later on. To people suspecting me, I'd like to remind you guys of chaoser's awesome scum-hunting abilities. Even though he fake claimed DT, hitting Amber and GGQ with analysis alone is pretty damn pro. I know for sure I'm townie and that chaoser's read on me is correct. I might have been on the wrong lynches due to circumstances, but remember, being wrong doesn't mean being scum. I'll make sure to try my best to help us win, but for now I am going to bed. The jewel of his scum posts. Everyone read this, please. He uses a dead man's read to try and confirm himself as town. On May 11 2011 03:17 ilovejonn wrote: Hold up everyone. You guys still think I am scum just because of a) I did not vote switch to Amber, and b) I was on the bad end of the lynches? Did I not already say I was going to be out the whole day on Mother's day? I cannot believe you guys would have missed that. Could you point this out to me? I never found it in your posts. On May 11 2011 03:17 ilovejonn wrote: Also, to accuse me of highly likely being scum/GF because I'm a veteran is ridiculous. I have been town aligned my WHOLE career on TL mafia and I am going to say that it is the same for this game. Why even bring up your past history? Again, you're trying to buy town cred using bogus reasoning. Conclusion: Scum jaminz My prime godfather suspect. A complete character swap from other games and he is laying low, being careful not to upset anyone. To compare with his previous game, he had 30 posts over a 15 page period and was night killed day one for his analysis. This game he has only 16 posts over 82 pages. On May 05 2011 11:11 jaminz wrote: Are you saying you're a blue? That's a really dumb thing to say either way. On May 05 2011 11:14 jaminz wrote: Yeah, I posted that without thinking about it, dumb move on my part. On May 07 2011 12:41 jaminz wrote: Aaaand fuck. I was completely wrong on my analysis of KillerSOS I've already stated this argument, but I think its important enough to repeat. 1) His "analysis" on KillerSOS was a couple of one liners. 2) His posts above clearly indicate he thought KillerSOS was blue. The fact that he finds it necessary to post after Killer's death screams of guilt. I then procede to call him out for his posting, and then shortly after, he finally comes through with the following conclusion: I’m not going to place my vote on Amber[LighT] for now as I haven’t done enough analysis on other players to compare him with (though I’m working on it and plan to do more before the day cycle ends) but I wanted to mention a few things as well. I’m a bit confused as to why he’s the veteran (other than redtooth) receiving most of the scum-focus in the game so far. I don’t think his posting habits have been drastically different from other players in this game, and I find it interesting that he’s been jumped on so quickly. He analysis Amber with a full wall of text and then questions why he is being the focus of the day 2 lynch. He then promises to do analysis on other players to compare him with. That analysis never comes. He does end up voting for Amber in the end, but that's why I think he is godfather and not a goon. On May 09 2011 12:43 jaminz wrote: Didn't GGQ claim he was roleblocked on night 1? Obviously claiming that doesn't clear him from any accusations, and I'm inclined to follow Chaoser's analysis, but I'd like to hear what he has to say about all of this. This is his most recent post 13 pages ago. He soft defends GGQ with the role blocker claim. Too bad your scum buddy died at night so he never had a chance to bring it up in his defense. Conclusion: Godfather | ||
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ilovejonn
Canada2548 Posts
Tell me where in that post do I say, Kurumi is not scum, but I will not change my vote. No, it does not say that, because I took my stance that Kurumi is scum and went with it. Sure now that Kurumi has flipped town it would've made sense if I switched to another person if I was scum, but I DO NOT have information like that of scum to go off of Kurumi. There has been no change in the Beneather situation? I knew he was getting modkilled and changed my vote to 2 prime suspects that day for people to have a read on me. I bet you would have said I was scum if I had my vote stay on Beneather and he gets modkilled now would you? Yes, I'm using a dead man's read to confirm myself as town. Well guess what, that dead man has been right on Amber and GGQ. And I definitely know he was right about me, so what's wrong with me trying to show people? I like how you went through my posts and then could not find where I said I would be out the whole day. On May 09 2011 02:34 ilovejonn wrote: Unvoting Beneather since he hasn't posted anything despite the pressure. Probably a modkill. Placing my vote on Cthsazsa as I still feel that I have a blue read on Amber. It is also mother's day today and this is my only chance to post right now. Have to go out now, I probably won't be back until tomorrow. Delivered. Why bring up my past history? Because I am townie this game and townie every other game. Brought it up so people can check my other game records and compare it to what I'm doing this game. | ||
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DropBear
Australia4340 Posts
 Specifying godfather over simply scum is a little bit of a leap for me but it's certainly still feasible, newer players like annul have been chosen as godfathers before. There are 3 mafia remaining of course, so how do you feel about EM and sinani206? | ||
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Varpulis
United States2517 Posts
and now, a random poem about how the thread died for a few hours. + Show Spoiler [poem] + The thread is dead, and I do mourn, for too soon was it's life spent, too soon it's life adjourned, and to an early grave it went. At times, it was derailed, and so redtooth did cry. But in our confusion, scumslips flew like flies. six scum began amongst us, six devious deceitful demons. though four hast yet escaped us, the rest, they could not flee. I plead that thou shalt be reborn so we might begin to hunt once more to post and read and think, so we might catch those final four. | ||
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chaos13
Canada885 Posts
I'm not convinced on EternalMisfit yet. I started out thinking he was scum with the analysis posted on him, but he has given off more of a town feel to me. | ||
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Varpulis
United States2517 Posts
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Varpulis
United States2517 Posts
Let's talk about who's scum and who's not instead of my terrible poetry. | ||
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
On May 11 2011 12:25 ilovejonn wrote: Nice points kitaman. Not. Any Borat references = confirmed scum. On May 11 2011 12:28 DropBear wrote: There are 3 mafia remaining of course, so how do you feel about EM and sinani206? On May 11 2011 12:33 Varpulis wrote: Interesting points, kitaman. I'm not entirely convinced about ilovejohn, but jaminz is definitely a suspicious character. What do you think about sinani206? I would be lying if I said I had a good read one way or another on sinani. His posts would make kenpachi proud. The fact that he was on the wrong side of both lynches so far means we have to consider him. His response to being accused thus far has been to go afk, and we saw how that turned out with irish. The only thing he has going for him was he wasn't on Cthsazsa in such a tight lynch. I would say ilovejonn and jaminz are scum, with the third being in the group of: chaos13 sinani206 Eternalmisfit DropBear | ||
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
On May 11 2011 12:39 Varpulis wrote: actually, I'm going to call that intentional, because it makes it rhyme. /end derailment. Let's talk about who's scum and who's not instead of my terrible poetry. If I find out that you wrote the poem to intentionally have someone point out that you forgot the number of remaining mafia then I'm really going to hate you :p | ||
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