EPTProvide an opinion please!
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DropBear
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Provide an opinion please! | ||
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Varpulis
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On May 11 2011 12:56 kitaman27 wrote: If I find out that you wrote the poem to intentionally have someone point out that you forgot the number of remaining mafia then I'm really going to hate you :p lol no. I think I mentioned before that I can't count when i'm tired. /end derailment | ||
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Jaminz was a townie in Newbie Mini Mafia. He was one of those people that posted a few times, but his posts were usually very substantial and contained a lot of confidence in his convictions. This game, I feel like he's beating around the bush a lot. Even with his longer posts, I don't feel like it's meeting up to his usual town standards. Maybe it's his relative new experience of being mafia? If I remember correctly, he's never been mafia in the past few games he's played. | ||
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Varpulis
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I've been leaning strongly on EM being scum. Planning to reread the thread and make my vote tomorrow as I want to form a better opinion on Sinani and ilovejohn before I make my final vote. | ||
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Varpulis
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I'm off to sleep. I'll see you guys tomorrow, possibly with a fake dt claim to convince you about Sinani with 10 minutes until the lynch.  Note: disregard anything nonsensical in this post. I'm not thinking straight right now. | ||
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sinani206
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I will not comment on anything until I'm fully awake though. | ||
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sandroba
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DropBear
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On May 11 2011 20:08 sandroba wrote: @kitaman27 jaiminz cast his vote on Amber when the votes were 7-6 in favor of Cthsazsa, tieing the votes. Consider that before saying he is mafia. This is true, but you've got to be careful about clearing people solely on the basis of voting for Amber. If you were scum, would you have the entire team on exactly the same vote? | ||
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sandroba
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sandroba
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@Kitaman27 So you are saying ilovejonn is scum. I'm sure you realize that if we catch mafia today, mafia are reduce to 1 kp. Explain to me how it is possible for EM to be scum in the scenario where ilovejonn is scum. Also your analysis on jaminz is complete bullshit. It's a common tactic for mafia to introduce more candidates for a lynch, to confuse town. Right now my prime godfather suspect is you. | ||
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Impervious
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On May 11 2011 01:51 kitaman27 wrote: I'm not really sure how this post is scummy. I also believe I was one of the first people to bring up Amber and pressure him to post on day one. When you take into consideration that you initially voted against one of the two people you were suspicious of when Day 2 came around, it's no longer looks as clear as "I made a good list, give me a pat on the back now!"..... Ok, so I misinterpreted your mixup during the switch. Still seems kind weird though. I would not push a lynch on you, in fact, I would argue against it. We already have 2+ good suspects, and adding another right now (like you did recently) is not going to help the town much, because it will be much easier to be misdirected when there are more suspects thrown in our faces. And, if we get a good lynch today, we'll really handicap the mafia. | ||
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Forumite
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____________ Early posts. + Show Spoiler + Defending confirmed scum On May 04 2011 14:46 orgolove wrote: Is Irish a new player? Could make sense if he's new - he wouldn't want his first game end so quickly. Diverting attention to Town On page 35, after EM posted his excelsheet, orgolove posted that the ones who looked suspicious to him was EM, chaoser, kurumi (and DropBear), two of which are confirmed [green]Town[green]. On May 06 2011 04:15 orgolove wrote: Great post. We need to look at the people who've been pointing fingers indiscriminately, like 5, 18, and 22. On May 06 2011 04:20 orgolove wrote: Oh and 17 too. Trying to look helpfull Nothing came of this, even though the spreadsheet could be easily recreated. On May 06 2011 04:23 orgolove wrote: Can you give me this spreadsheet? I may have some pattern recognition software that I might be able to gather, and coordinate the time of the accusatory posts with the contents to see if a particular group of players (reds) were on-line and accusing the same person at around the same point in time. Tunneling on helpfull Town-leader, redtooth + Show Spoiler + Following are a few posts that implicate redtooth as scum, 9 of them. After the first 5 posts against redtooth, he suddenly becomes convinced redtooth is Town, but quickly after, he posts 4 times urging a lynch on redtooth, including a ##Vote. On May 07 2011 09:30 orgolove wrote:He's really putting serious effort into his posts, and he's trying to trick things without being afraid of being revealed. I can't detect any hint of red-ness (pun intended). Trying to save Amber by lynching a probable Town as an information-lynch On May 08 2011 09:11 orgolove wrote: I really think redtooth either needs to be checked by a dt or be lynched asap. He's been acting plenty scummy enough, and his kills will give us plenty of information both on Amber and others involved in this dispute. A pre-night posting of useless information + Show Spoiler + During Night 2, just 15minutes before the daypost. It didn´t show us anything that the voting thread didn´t allready show. Seriously, the post contained NO usefull data. On May 10 2011 11:47 orgolove wrote: This is in progress - I'm posting this just in case I'm killed in the night (though not likely) [url blocked] The excel file contains the vote time and target for the past 2 days. It's quite interesting. I'll post a full analysis after day breaks and I have a few more identifiers. First attempt at analysis, during day 3. + Show Spoiler + http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=216644¤tpage=74#1473 The analysis was full of conditions that turn Cthsazsas from +1 to -17, conditions easily tweaked, added or removed to get the desired outcome, or even asking his scumbuddies to vote in a way that makes them look Town to his conditions. This is also referenced later to try and get DropBear lynched. He sends out his FoS, summarized in the next spoiler FoS and votes + Show Spoiler + Focused accusations. Has been trying to get these lynched since Day 1 FoS DropBear 6 FoS Ilovejonn 2 FoS AirbladeOrange 2 FoS VarpuliS 2 FoS Eternalmisfit 2 FoS redtooth 9 Votes on helpfull Town-leaders, Town, and one post on Amber, which he milked for Town-points. Votes! Day 1 ##Vote: Kurumi Day 2 ##vote: Amber[Light] -(tieing Amber with Cthsazsa, for which his analysis makes him more Town) Day 3 ##Vote: ilovejonn His latest post, which was 27h ago. He´s confident that Town will mislynch, so he´s been lurking ever since, there´s no need to interfere. On May 10 2011 18:39 orgolove wrote: ____________Hm. All right - I won't claim my effort as of now is 100% flawless, as after all, it's only dealing with two days worth of data. It's really late - good night. Conclusion + Show Spoiler + Unhelpfull analysis, the few times he gives it, voting on Confirmed Town or in a way that is used only to gain Town-credit. Defends Irish and Amber. Lurks now that noone is thinking about lynching him. Scum. | ||
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chaos13
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I am going to have to vote for Sinani206. The final thing that decided it for me was this: On May 11 2011 14:39 sinani206 wrote: OK, I'm catching up, just skimmed the thread and planning to read more in-depth later. I will not comment on anything until I'm fully awake though. He posted it six hours ago, and hasn't come through with an in-depth post. This is exactly what Irish did, and he flipped red. | ||
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sandroba
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After kitaman27's post I reread Imprevious analysis on kita. At the very end I found something that made me think. It was regarding jackal's death. Why would mafia kill jackal? Jackal calling me scum was one of the last things he did, along with tunneling cthsazsa. This should help scum (read EternalMisfit) to post bullshit analysis on me. EM had his analysis of me ready (he says so on the analysis itself) just to discredit me as soon as I posted my analysis on Amber[Light]. If he thought I was scum indeed there was no point in waiting until I posted my analysis. Trust me, EM is scum. | ||
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sandroba
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Eternalmisfit
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On May 11 2011 22:37 sandroba wrote: Easy there forumite. There's a chance orgolove is scum indeed, but he was one of the first to vote for Amber on his lynch. This gets him +towine points in my eyes. There are much more obvious scum waiting to be lynched. We can save the discussion on orgolove for tomorrow. After kitaman27's post I reread Imprevious analysis on kita. At the very end I found something that made me think. It was regarding jackal's death. Why would mafia kill jackal? Jackal calling me scum was one of the last things he did, along with tunneling cthsazsa. This should help scum (read EternalMisfit) to post bullshit analysis on me. EM had his analysis of me ready (he says so on the analysis itself) just to discredit me as soon as I posted my analysis on Amber[Light]. If he thought I was scum indeed there was no point in waiting until I posted my analysis. Trust me, EM is scum. I had analysis ready on you because I thought you were scum and I wanted to wait for you to post your analysis first since I was hoping that you might drop some clues of being scum in that post. In any case, I won't have much time to be on today since it is my birthday and I have got stuff planned. I might have time to check the thread a few more times during the day but it is not guaranteed. I am going to post a vote on sinani in case I am not back on by the end of the day. | ||
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